valuation help :nosleepformetonightohpooohpoo:

[rob05]

Problem you have Mr nervous,is that you could spend all year trying to find a nice early 996.I,m no fan of dealers and independents less so,but i really do think they have the best cars of that age and you will pay more but it will be less of a chore for you in the end.Its really only worth going private for the newer cars good deals to be had and less to get nervous about.This is only relevent with current models unless you really know your sh.t,then of course you have no limits to what age car you buy at the door.

[nervous]

yes you see, thats the problem: i am Nervous, and instead of knowing my shit, i know shit.

[rob05]

I Like your handle,some real crackers here my fav has to be bumcrack?Some kind of arse fasination going on there?I'm sure the guy has his reasons,anyway good luck!

[softinthehead]

nervous said:

however, the nearest porsche dealer to me is colchester, and im doubtful the chap will be too keen on letting me take it all the way over there. so who should i get to do the inspection? will the AA do, or should i source an indy? that said, i know that the service and the clutch were just done at an indy in norwich, i wonder if he might be able to give me an idea of how well the car is? would this be enough to buy on? would this be enough to get a porsche warranty on? also, do i have to have an inspection and follow all of the main porsche dealers instructions to get a porsche warranty? if so, is it worth getting a non dealer warranty? that said, i have no idea how much a porsche dealer warranty is, though im guessing 'not cheap'

the figure bandied about by those in the know for the porsche warranty seems to be about £800ish. to get it you have to have porsche do the check (no way they'd take an indie's word for it.) it does mean that any work done under warranty is guaranteed for the life of the car. and you can have as many new Rear Main Seals as you like!

I have an indie warrantly - RAC 5 star. I have since found out that the five stars stand for SH*TE - I'll leave you to fill in the vowel.

>> Edited by softinthehead on Tuesday 27th September 20:16

[rob05]

I agree only one warranty to have,i found out the hard way just like you have mate,but remember as so many here claim INDEPENDENTS care more!

[nervous]

rob05 said:

I Like your handle,some real crackers here my fav has to be bumcrack?Some kind of arse fasination going on there?I'm sure the guy has his reasons,anyway good luck!

im a particular fan of 'thekirbyfake', cant quite say why tho. and for future reference, though im touched by your fondness for my handle, im afraid we'll never be anything more than friends. i like you, i just dont think of you that way

softinthehead said:

the figure bandied about by those in the know for the porsche warranty seems to be about £800ish. to get it you have to have porsche do the check (no way they'd take an indie's word for it.) it does mean that any work done under warranty is guaranteed for the life of the car. and you can have as many new Rear Main Seals as you like! I have an indie warrantly - RAC 5 star. I have since found out that the five stars stand for SH*TE - I'll leave you to fill in the vowel.

is it an 'u'?

800 quid seems worth a go, does it cover everything, ever, ever? including dirty tyres?

>> Edited by nervous on Tuesday 27th September 20:28

[MOD500]

A warranty is a must, or get ready for dirty George Michael action in the WC if something goes pop. The OPC warranty is exceptional, and includes RAC cover, recovery, loan car, etc, etc.

I don't like OPC's, but you must use them for the yearly service to keep extending the warranty....but just use them for the most basic stuff you can, i.e. standard oil change. Then take your car to the nearest good indie for the rest, you'll save money plus the car will be worked on by competent people, and not individuals who until recently still played with Lego.

I cannot help re price, but thought I give you some idea of the warranty crack

As a first port of call maybe you could get an indie to inspect the car for you? If the seller has nothing to hide he won't mind surely?

Hope you get fixed up Buy Top marques to check prices too.

Kind Regards



Martyn.

[sleep envy]

YHM you

[nervous]

thanks martyn

ill wait to thank you before i check my mail ric, if i know you itll be abuse. ya .

[nervous]

ok, ok, ive checked it. Thanks ric!! nice work! if nothing else itll stop me getting any work done tommorow!











ps youre still a tho

[DanH]

Don't get too excited about an extended Porsche warranty. The limit is 10 years/100k IIRC, so however you look at it, this car won't be covered all that long.

The problem with a 996 at this kind of money is that it was originally an expensive piece of metal. You need to be able to afford a 50k car going wrong, not a 25k one. If thats going to break your back, you definitely need to make sure you buy very well and without haste. You'll also need some luck that nothing goes wrong.

[james s]

I would really take your time, particularly with a 996. I considered one when I bought my 993 earlier in the year. Genreral view was that the increased production volume and practicality that came with his car has meant they have generally seen a greater degree of everyday use than the previous generations. This isn't a bad thing but it does mean the variability in quality is greater than ever before 8 years later.

I always prefer well looked after high millage cars, but I might be a litte more nervous with a big millage 996. I can imagine them being very difficult to shift at 100k + as there are so many on the market the prices are still falling nicely, so you really don't need to go down this route.

Drive sufficient to know whter you prefer 2Vs4 (if you can tell the difference). Decide on the priority options if that is important to you (for me the basic seats were a no no. Get yourself comfotable with the RMS issue and warrenty protection if you feel you want it

Ring Henry and the other well known independants, drive a few cars and then wait for a really good one to come along. There are so many around you won't wait that long.

Noting worse thna buying the first one then finding out with a little more knowledge you would have prefered something slighlt different.

Most of all good luck and enjoy the process. I was refecting last night that finding a car, whilst sometimes frustrating at the time is half the fun.

[softinthehead]

lots of good advice here. cnat help thinking that the numberplate is skewing your judgement a little - totally understandable but you might be better off spending time to get the right car and you can always spend £250 getting a plate from the DVLA.
I'm assuming your local dealer isnt a porsche specialist? that would make me nervous too, as a first time buyer. You really need to know your onions here cos the dealer wont know his/hers.
Perhaps you should think about your budget then start looking at one of the really obsessional indies like Specialist Cars of Malton or Hartech. You pay a premium but they virtualy take their cars apart and rebuild them prior to sale. Ultimately its always a risk buying an old sports car but at least you can reduce that risk by thorough groundwork

[supersport]

All really good advice, but up until the point at which you get an inspection done, it hasn't cost you a penny. So go have a proper look, crawl all over it and the paper work, take it out for a drive.

Contact the previous owner, previous service agent etc and then decide if it is worth taking any further. Just keep your head on straight. If anything appears wrong, walk away, as said by others, there are thousands of the things about and you don't need to take the first one you see.

Most of all enjoy the process and when you finally pick it up, try not to explode I couldn't sleep the two weeks after handing over the deposit before I picked it up, just so so excited.

S

[nervous]

DanH said:

Don't get too excited about an extended Porsche warranty. The limit is 10 years/100k IIRC, so however you look at it, this car won't be covered all that long. The problem with a 996 at this kind of money is that it was originally an expensive piece of metal. You need to be able to afford a 50k car going wrong, not a 25k one. If thats going to break your back, you definitely need to make sure you buy very well and without haste. You'll also need some luck that nothing goes wrong.

thanks dan, thats spot on advice. and believe me i know what you mean, cos my current car is a TVR

james s said:

I would really take your time, particularly with a 996. I considered one when I bought my 993 earlier in the year. Genreral view was that the increased production volume and practicality that came with his car has meant they have generally seen a greater degree of everyday use than the previous generations. This isn't a bad thing but it does mean the variability in quality is greater than ever before 8 years later. I always prefer well looked after high millage cars, but I might be a litte more nervous with a big millage 996. I can imagine them being very difficult to shift at 100k + as there are so many on the market the prices are still falling nicely, so you really don't need to go down this route. Drive sufficient to know whter you prefer 2Vs4 (if you can tell the difference). Decide on the priority options if that is important to you (for me the basic seats were a no no. Get yourself comfotable with the RMS issue and warrenty protection if you feel you want it Ring Henry and the other well known independants, drive a few cars and then wait for a really good one to come along. There are so many around you won't wait that long. Noting worse thna buying the first one then finding out with a little more knowledge you would have prefered something slighlt different. Most of all good luck and enjoy the process. I was refecting last night that finding a car, whilst sometimes frustrating at the time is half the fun.

simply couldnt agree with you more: wanting is always much better than having it. i love this part, the cantstopthinkingaboutit part, but its usually pretty quickly downhill from there (mostly cos i look for crests cos i cant afford the petrol). in terms of the spec of this car, if i hadnt seen it already, and wrote a list of the spec i wanted, it would be exactly this. except for the mileage. oo, and itd be 25 grand cheaper too . ive driven quite a few and i know thaat this is the model for me too, so in a way im the best position of all, i know exactly what i want. its just a case of finding it. but youre right, there are squillions about (ric sent me a link to about 10 just last night) so im trying to keep my head.

softinthehead said:

lots of good advice here. cnat help thinking that the numberplate is skewing your judgement a little - totally understandable but you might be better off spending time to get the right car and you can always spend £250 getting a plate from the DVLA. I'm assuming your local dealer isnt a porsche specialist? that would make me nervous too, as a first time buyer. You really need to know your onions here cos the dealer wont know his/hers. Perhaps you should think about your budget then start looking at one of the really obsessional indies like Specialist Cars of Malton or Hartech. You pay a premium but they virtualy take their cars apart and rebuild them prior to sale. Ultimately its always a risk buying an old sports car but at least you can reduce that risk by thorough groundwork

thanks softy, thats great advice too. and thats almost certainly how im going to go about this, just as soon as my head calms down whatever i do, ill be getting a huge inspection done on the car before i buy anything.

honestly couldnt give a stuff about the plate, im not a personalised plate kind of a guy at all, i would switch it out immediatley if i bought the car cos it would be a bit crass for my tastes (says the man with this haircut whose considering buying a black porsche), i just thought it was amazing thats all

thanks all, really appreciate you taking the time

[nervous]

supersport said:

All really good advice, but up until the point at which you get an inspection done, it hasn't cost you a penny. So go have a proper look, crawl all over it and the paper work, take it out for a drive. Contact the previous owner, previous service agent etc and then decide if it is worth taking any further. Just keep your head on straight. If anything appears wrong, walk away, as said by others, there are thousands of the things about and you don't need to take the first one you see. Most of all enjoy the process and when you finally pick it up, try not to explode I couldn't sleep the two weeks after handing over the deposit before I picked it up, just so so excited. S

thanks supes, thats what im thinking of doing. as i say, its lives over the road from where my new office is so itll cost me nothing to spend some time over there satsifying me before i take the step of getting somebody competent to have a look. though, its gonna cost my boss a fortune, cos im not going to get anything done.

this isnt a good sign. im on a day off today, and am trying to think of a reason to just 'pop' over there


>> Edited by nervous on Wednesday 28th September 10:18

[Carrera2]

Nervous

I bought mine about 5 months back. C2, R-reg (1998), 65k miles through a dealer (part-ex) and paid 27.5k. However I reckon the dealer overpaid me for the Maser by about 2k so in reality this figure is approx £25.5k for for Porsche.

C4's are more pricey though but either way whats £2k? The cars got your initials on it FFS!!!

Buy it now.

[nervous]

damn you C2, damn you all to hell

[Carrera2]

[nervous]

yes dear :underthethumb:

going to wait until tommorow when im back in the office, im playing hard to fleece donchaknow. im going to do some digging today, see what i can find. hell, after that i may even see if i cant find some stuff out about the car