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Hmm, just had a play on the porsche car configurator. They are really taking the p*ss with the spec of the Cayman imho. Add just basic things like climate, bi-xenons (surely should be standard on a 50k porsche these days..), PASM, metallic paint, delivery plus the cheapest 19" wheels that everyone will go for and sat nav, already 50k and still pretty poorly speced.
Selling without Sat Nav will be difficult, not many are as enlighted about the cheapness and portibility of tomtom etc..
Even 12k Clio's have climate, decent cd, cruise, xenons these days ffs.
Selling without Sat Nav will be difficult, not many are as enlighted about the cheapness and portibility of tomtom etc..
Even 12k Clio's have climate, decent cd, cruise, xenons these days ffs.
abarber said:
Hmm, just had a play on the porsche car configurator. They are really taking the p*ss with the spec of the Cayman imho. Add just basic things like climate, bi-xenons (surely should be standard on a 50k porsche these days..), PASM, metallic paint, delivery plus the cheapest 19" wheels that everyone will go for and sat nav, already 50k and still pretty poorly speced.
Selling without Sat Nav will be difficult, not many are as enlighted about the cheapness and portibility of tomtom etc..
Even 12k Clio's have climate, decent cd, cruise, xenons these days ffs.
You probably need more information to know if they are taking the p*ss.
For example, sold as they would like it might have cost £50k, but then the price was "wrong" and they were forced to work out a way to reduce it so it looked better. Part of the reason for it looking wrong could be that the higher model, the 911 was priced at £60k and it had to fit in. That model could be priced at 60k by the same design as really its 67k... which mean people would be put off.
See? So they started "playing" with 911 prices years ago, but then are forced into keeping them so as not to have huge jumps. The Cayman then has to, whether they like it or not, fit in.
As a comparision with an S2000:
Sports steering wheel £300 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
Sports seats £900 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
Full leather seats £500 - S2000 standard
Xeon headlights £750 - standard
Good sounding stereo £308 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
19" Alloys £1000, - included on S2k
Limited Slip Diff... ah, NOT available on Cayman, INCLUDED with S2000
Conclusion, S2000 includes a very high standard spec. So, could Honda sell a cheap version of the car with this lot as optional extras? Probably, but they choose not to.
pikey said:
Hmm, just had a play on the porsche car configurator. They are really taking the p*ss with the spec of the Cayman imho. Add just basic things like climate, bi-xenons (surely should be standard on a 50k porsche these days..), PASM, metallic paint, delivery plus the cheapest 19" wheels that everyone will go for and sat nav, already 50k and still pretty poorly speced.
Selling without Sat Nav will be difficult, not many are as enlighted about the cheapness and portibility of tomtom etc..
Even 12k Clio's have climate, decent cd, cruise, xenons these days ffs.
You probably need more information to know if they are taking the p*ss.
For example, sold as they would like it might have cost £50k, but then the price was "wrong" and they were forced to work out a way to reduce it so it looked better. Part of the reason for it looking wrong could be that the higher model, the 911 was priced at £60k and it had to fit in. That model could be priced at 60k by the same design as really its 67k... which mean people would be put off.
See? So they started "playing" with 911 prices years ago, but then are forced into keeping them so as not to have huge jumps. The Cayman then has to, whether they like it or not, fit in.
As a comparision with an S2000:
Sports steering wheel £300 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
Sports seats £900 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
Full leather seats £500 - S2000 standard
Xeon headlights £750 - standard
Good sounding stereo £308 - almost identical to the S2000 standard
19" Alloys £1000, - included on S2k
Limited Slip Diff... ah, NOT available on Cayman, INCLUDED with S2000
Conclusion, S2000 includes a very high standard spec. So, could Honda sell a cheap version of the car with this lot as optional extras? Probably, but they choose not to.
If it were that simple you'd be keeping the S2000
abarber said:
Hmm, just had a play on the porsche car configurator. They are really taking the p*ss with the spec of the Cayman imho. Add just basic things like climate, bi-xenons (surely should be standard on a 50k porsche these days..), PASM, metallic paint, delivery plus the cheapest 19" wheels that everyone will go for and sat nav, already 50k and still pretty poorly speced.
Does it not come with litronics? Bi-xenon is a bit pointless imho - I don't care much about full beam as its very good as standard.
I originally had a Cayman on order and had specified March delivery (ordered in April/May this year). OPC called me in September saying I could have one of his first (early December). this got my very qorried about residuals if there was oversupply/lack of demand.....then when the details got released I specced it up on the car configurator and got to £53K, so decided this may not be the right way to go and instead picked up an '04 996 C2 Cab 4 weeks ago for less money with all the same options except the elusive Sat-Nav, which personally I would not need or want......so far loving every minute of it!
I think lead times vary greatly depending upon where abouts in the country you are. My two nearest OPCs, Leeds and Sheffield have over a year long waiting list, Sheffield was 12 months, Leeds was 14-16 months and this was about 2 weeks ago.
I think when you go further south lead times improve, especially where there are OPCs closer together, unlike the North.
I think when you go further south lead times improve, especially where there are OPCs closer together, unlike the North.
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