How to tell if UK car?

How to tell if UK car?

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stevo6

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148 posts

233 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Is there a way to tell if a 996 was a UK build car? By looking at chassis number for example? If so, what does one look for?

Thanks

Yex

4,583 posts

221 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Should be a plate on the car that reads C16. Couldn't say where, but look on door frames and under bonnet.

Yex

C2DTG

3,019 posts

214 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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I am pretty sure there is something in the chassis number to confirm that the car was UK designated.

However the quickest way is to look at the white sticker on the underside of the bonnet on the front boot area. This has a series of numbers, most relate to option codes fitted to the car.

Generally the first number relates to the market the car was designed for. In the case of the UK it should show C16.

This sticker should also be in the inside cover of the service book and the option codes should match.

They should also refelct what is on the actual car. So, if for the sake of argument the sticker is showing the car is fitted with a tiptronic gearbox, and the car you are looking at is a manual - then walk away!!

garyjones1962

402 posts

212 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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It'll have "c16" at the beginning of the options list I believe

stevo6

Original Poster:

148 posts

233 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Great - many thanks.

caveman

40 posts

250 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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The steering wheel should be on the RHS

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

C2DTG

3,019 posts

214 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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caveman said:
The steering wheel should be on the RHS

Sorry, couldn't resist it.


And if its a 996 there should be a patch of oil on the driveway just under the transmission tunnel.

If it isn't there - then its not a Porsche you are looking at

GreigM

6,732 posts

250 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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It must have C16 as the first option and MUST have a UK dealers stamp as the first in the book.

You can spec C16 through foreign dealers.

silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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GreigM said:
It must have C16 as the first option and MUST have a UK dealers stamp as the first in the book.

You can spec C16 through foreign dealers.


yes but if it's a C16 from a foreign dealer, it's a UK car delivered to the foreign dealer instead of the UK dealer. There is no difference, car built for the UK only, just a different delivery address.

Geneve

3,870 posts

220 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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C16 is to UK spec, not necessarily UK supplied.

If you call Porsche Cars GB at Reading they should be able to tell you if it was imported through them and sold via a UK OPC. This can have a bearing if future problems develop.

Expect to pay a bit less if it was an unofficial import.

silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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C16 is supplied for the UK whether it's an OPC or an individual. It is exactly the same car. The price will be exactly the same. I speak from real experience since I p/ex'd a UK car (C16) that I bought new in Germany to a UK OPC and they told me it makes no difference to the value of the car, main thing is it's C16. They gave me a quote and then I told them I had it delievered originally in Germany.

All warranty work will be done in teh UK without question since every Porsche in Europe (inc UK) comes with a CoC (Certificate of Conformity) and is covered Europe wide.



Edited by silver993tt on Friday 8th September 15:40

GreigM

6,732 posts

250 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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silver993tt said:
GreigM said:
It must have C16 as the first option and MUST have a UK dealers stamp as the first in the book.

You can spec C16 through foreign dealers.


yes but if it's a C16 from a foreign dealer, it's a UK car delivered to the foreign dealer instead of the UK dealer. There is no difference, car built for the UK only, just a different delivery address.


There are 2 downfalls though:
1. Your insurance may still classify this as an import - mine did when asked.
2. If its a young car but out of warranty and there is a problem, porsche GB will not offer a goodwill payment whereas on a UK sourced car they might (why should they, there was no profit in this car for them).

You are right there is no physical difference in the car, but it is still not a UK car.

Mekon

2,492 posts

217 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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clap world class pedantry clap

I do hope that there is an official Porsche document that someone can link to to top it off.

lightweight

1,165 posts

249 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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GreigM said:
[quote=silver993tt][quote=GreigM]It must have C16 as the first option and MUST have a UK dealers stamp as the first in the book.

1. Your insurance may still classify this as an import - mine did when asked.
2. If its a young car but out of warranty and there is a problem, porsche GB will not offer a goodwill payment whereas on a UK sourced car they might (why should they, there was no profit in this car for them).

You are right there is no physical difference in the car, but it is still not a UK car.

Porsche GB fixed the RMS on my GT3 as a good will payment Parts and Labour! and the car is a C00(ie German spec) purchaced from a UK indy!! the rule is there are no rules find a good OPC treet them well and they will recipricate.

edited to say they would notice as it is also LHD!


Edited by lightweight on Friday 8th September 17:14

Rob_J

13,296 posts

222 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Porsche GB fixed the RMS on my GT3 as a good will payment Parts and Labour! and the car is a C00(ie German spec) purchaced from a UK indy!! the rule is there are no rules find a good OPC treet them well and they will recipricate.

edited to say they would notice as it is also LHD!


Edited by lightweight on Friday 8th September 17:14


GT3 & RMS in same sentence thought they were immune grumpy

Edited by Rob_J on Friday 8th September 17:19

Koln-RS

3,873 posts

213 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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RMS failure on a GT3 eek Are you sure?


silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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GreigM said:
silver993tt said:
GreigM said:
It must have C16 as the first option and MUST have a UK dealers stamp as the first in the book.

You can spec C16 through foreign dealers.


yes but if it's a C16 from a foreign dealer, it's a UK car delivered to the foreign dealer instead of the UK dealer. There is no difference, car built for the UK only, just a different delivery address.


There are 2 downfalls though:
1. Your insurance may still classify this as an import - mine did when asked.
2. If its a young car but out of warranty and there is a problem, porsche GB will not offer a goodwill payment whereas on a UK sourced car they might (why should they, there was no profit in this car for them).

You are right there is no physical difference in the car, but it is still not a UK car.


I had no problems with insurance whatsoever, was with NU who said as long as it's a UK spec car it would be treated the same. There was never an issue with servicing.

Also, a C16 car IS A UK CAR, it is built by Porsche FOR THE UK MARKET ONLY.

Sorry, I remember one difference now, I saved £11,000 at the time hehe

lightweight

1,165 posts

249 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Koln-RS said:
RMS failure on a GT3 eek Are you sure?




west london have fixed six in total it is not the same problem as the M96 rms issue just a pain but like I say fixed under good will.

993's have had RMS fail as have turbos no car is bullitproof

grant3

3,637 posts

256 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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silver993tt said:
C16 is supplied for the UK whether it's an OPC or an individual. It is exactly the same car. The price will be exactly the same. I speak from real experience since I p/ex'd a UK car (C16) that I bought new in Germany to a UK OPC and they told me it makes no difference to the value of the car, main thing is it's C16. They gave me a quote and then I told them I had it delievered originally in Germany.
All warranty work will be done in teh UK without question since every Porsche in Europe (inc UK) comes with a CoC (Certificate of Conformity) and is covered Europe wide.
Edited by silver993tt on Friday 8th September 15:40


Not strictly true unfortunately, there are sometimes (for whatever reason!) the odd specification variations with C16 imports, I have been told of one without top tint screen , another without air-con, early ones lacking full leather interior. Having said this I am sure they are the exception rather than the rule & as you say the warranty is the same as UK cars, BUT you don't get the RAC breakdown cover with imported C16 cars, only UK C16 cars.
There is also the question of whether the car was first registered new in the UK with 0 miles etc, if it was an import.
Confused aren't we all!
Didn't put me off, the MRS has a C16 imported from Sweden, but we double checked the specification with the supplying official Porsche dealer in Sweden & had copies of the import papers to prove all was ok spec & registration wise!

The VIL sticker with the country code is under the bonnet & in the service book, the supplying dealer stamp (Uk or foreign) should be in the service book.

silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Well, things like RAC cover etc aren't really part of the car.

You are right on things such as full leather interior. However, this is an advantage since when I ordered my Boxster I paid extra for this together with climate control and these were significantly cheaper than in the UK. It was a simple process really, I got the spec list for a basic Boxster S from a UK OPC and then my friendly German OPC configured the car to that list. Saved £11,000 which was about 25% at the time.

It included insurance and plates for a month. I had 1 month to register the car in the UK and the V5 had my name as the first owner, since I paid the VAT in the UK (and then got a refund from the German OPC).

I think that part of the problem with a few people here who are saying they are different cars, is that they have never bought a UK car and had it delivered abroad so they don't understand the process. Also, maybe a bit of resentment to those who make the small effort and save a huge amount of money and then expect to pass the saving onto the next owner who hasn't made an effort.

In effect, after 3 years my depreciation was £6k, or about 17% instead of about 40% had I had the car delivered to the UK.