GT2 - no Tiptronic?
Discussion
Just in the process of (hopefully) swapping the TT for a GT2, but I was surprised to find NO switches on the steering and a stick in the middle with numbers on it? 
Can it be converted to Tiptronic do you think?
Over the lat few months of Turbo Tip driving I'm not sure my left leg can deal with a clutch again.
All that aside, what's it like living with a GT2 - dare you drive it in the wet or do you just get out and push if you get caught in rain.
LONG LIVE TIPS!
Can it be converted to Tiptronic do you think?
Over the lat few months of Turbo Tip driving I'm not sure my left leg can deal with a clutch again.
All that aside, what's it like living with a GT2 - dare you drive it in the wet or do you just get out and push if you get caught in rain.
LONG LIVE TIPS!
ballast said:
I would have been sad if you hadn't at least nibbled. I shall miss the pro Tip discussions!
Is a manual GT2 an improvement then?
Is a manual GT2 an improvement then?
It's anti-Tip dude, and relative to a Tip, everything is an improvement. Including the bus. If you mean is a GT2 an improvement over a TT, I have to say I don't know as I haven't had the pleasure of a GT2's company yet. But I guess so - 460+ horses and RWD can't be bad (though I'll admit I'd probably be a bit scared).
Not wishing to tempt fate, but I've just done 140 mile round trip in atrocious conditions in mine and loved every second of it.
No dramas, but the geometry does needs sorting
(it's booked in to be sorted already 
) )
My only real issue is with the brakes, I had the car inspected by an OPC before purchase and asked them to pay special attention to the checks they did on the PCCBs.
The OPC rang me and noted one disc has a small chip out of its edge but (in their words) it's not an issue regarding longevity or performance. They also noted the pads were 70% worn.
I collected the car on Monday and found the brakes very pooor (lacking bite) compared with the recently overhauled ones on my GT3.
A brief inspection on Monday evening after I arrived home, revealed the surface of the N/S/F disc to be "rough" in some areas.
A discussion with someone of some standing in Porsche tuning/servicing circles earlier today, indicates this disc is effectively scrap.
I came fairly close to getting "intimate" with the rear of a Vauxhall Corsa after an overtaking manouvre this afternoon (due to the brakes total lack of bite from cough "elevated speeds" cough.
I wonder, is it worth trying to gain some recompense from the OPC in question for what would appear to be negligence on their part for not reporting that the disc is in fact not serviceable ?
Apart from this one issue (and the geometry) the car is awesome.
Furthermore it was purchased at what I consider to be a bargain price (compared with the other cars on the market at the moment) and thus throwing a decent set of steels on the front (if for no other reason that they can be relied on to stop the car properly !) seems an inexpensive way to solve the brake issue permanently and ensure my continued enjoyment of the car.
No dramas, but the geometry does needs sorting
(it's booked in to be sorted already ) ) My only real issue is with the brakes, I had the car inspected by an OPC before purchase and asked them to pay special attention to the checks they did on the PCCBs.
The OPC rang me and noted one disc has a small chip out of its edge but (in their words) it's not an issue regarding longevity or performance. They also noted the pads were 70% worn.
I collected the car on Monday and found the brakes very pooor (lacking bite) compared with the recently overhauled ones on my GT3.
A brief inspection on Monday evening after I arrived home, revealed the surface of the N/S/F disc to be "rough" in some areas.
A discussion with someone of some standing in Porsche tuning/servicing circles earlier today, indicates this disc is effectively scrap.
I came fairly close to getting "intimate" with the rear of a Vauxhall Corsa after an overtaking manouvre this afternoon
(due to the brakes total lack of bite from cough "elevated speeds" cough. I wonder, is it worth trying to gain some recompense from the OPC in question for what would appear to be negligence on their part for not reporting that the disc is in fact not serviceable ?
Apart from this one issue (and the geometry) the car is awesome.
Furthermore it was purchased at what I consider to be a bargain price (compared with the other cars on the market at the moment) and thus throwing a decent set of steels on the front (if for no other reason that they can be relied on to stop the car properly !) seems an inexpensive way to solve the brake issue permanently and ensure my continued enjoyment of the car.
kayc said:
My gt3 was tiptronic,well it felt slow enough to be anyway
I know you're sort of kidding kayc; but try to get to the 'Ring when Dave321 is around with his GT3. It's a tidy and workmanlike car, dave is a handy and super-smooth wheelman and I'm sure he'd be happy to take you out because he's a really nice guy. He's there ar lot, and even keeps his car lodged in those parts to save him driving it back and forth; such is the frequency of his visits to the Nordschleif. I've done a ton of laps around the 'Ring in fairly quick machinery, including a couple of 911s up to and including the 997. A sorted 996 GT3 is as quick as it gets. I shit you not. In the right hands, a GT3 is effing devastatingly quick.
Though a TT has more road-usable performance and a bit more flexibility, granted.
slippydiff said:
Not wishing to tempt fate, but I've just done 140 mile round trip in atrocious conditions in mine and loved every second of it.
No dramas, but the geometry does needs sorting (it's booked in to be sorted already ) )
My only real issue is with the brakes, I had the car inspected by an OPC before purchase and asked them to pay special attention to the checks they did on the PCCBs.
The OPC rang me and noted one disc has a small chip out of its edge but (in their words) it's not an issue regarding longevity or performance. They also noted the pads were 70% worn.
I collected the car on Monday and found the brakes very pooor (lacking bite) compared with the recently overhauled ones on my GT3.
A brief inspection on Monday evening after I arrived home, revealed the surface of the N/S/F disc to be "rough" in some areas.
A discussion with someone of some standing in Porsche tuning/servicing circles earlier today, indicates this disc is effectively scrap.
I came fairly close to getting "intimate" with the rear of a Vauxhall Corsa after an overtaking manouvre this afternoon (due to the brakes total lack of bite from cough "elevated speeds" cough.
I wonder, is it worth trying to gain some recompense from the OPC in question for what would appear to be negligence on their part for not reporting that the disc is in fact not serviceable ?
Apart from this one issue (and the geometry) the car is awesome.
Furthermore it was purchased at what I consider to be a bargain price (compared with the other cars on the market at the moment) and thus throwing a decent set of steels on the front (if for no other reason that they can be relied on to stop the car properly !) seems an inexpensive way to solve the brake issue permanently and ensure my continued enjoyment of the car.
No dramas, but the geometry does needs sorting
(it's booked in to be sorted already ) ) My only real issue is with the brakes, I had the car inspected by an OPC before purchase and asked them to pay special attention to the checks they did on the PCCBs.
The OPC rang me and noted one disc has a small chip out of its edge but (in their words) it's not an issue regarding longevity or performance. They also noted the pads were 70% worn.
I collected the car on Monday and found the brakes very pooor (lacking bite) compared with the recently overhauled ones on my GT3.
A brief inspection on Monday evening after I arrived home, revealed the surface of the N/S/F disc to be "rough" in some areas.
A discussion with someone of some standing in Porsche tuning/servicing circles earlier today, indicates this disc is effectively scrap.
I came fairly close to getting "intimate" with the rear of a Vauxhall Corsa after an overtaking manouvre this afternoon
(due to the brakes total lack of bite from cough "elevated speeds" cough. I wonder, is it worth trying to gain some recompense from the OPC in question for what would appear to be negligence on their part for not reporting that the disc is in fact not serviceable ?
Apart from this one issue (and the geometry) the car is awesome.
Furthermore it was purchased at what I consider to be a bargain price (compared with the other cars on the market at the moment) and thus throwing a decent set of steels on the front (if for no other reason that they can be relied on to stop the car properly !) seems an inexpensive way to solve the brake issue permanently and ensure my continued enjoyment of the car.
I would think that if you took the discs of and sold them you would probaly raise more than enough to put on some steels. Can you still keep the yellow callipers if you do this? Or are they part of the pccb system?
No, the calipers are useable irrespective of the disc material.
Though the one disc displays sign of the ceramic layer starting to break up, it has not reached the stage whereby it is de-laminating and unuseable.
Should I ever sell the car in the future it maybe beneficial to be able to refit the "original" PCCB setup to the car.
From what I've read both here on PH and Rennlist, the early ceramic brake setup is not the utopian concept it was portrayed as by Porsche in their original publicity material. On this basis it's replacement with steel discs seems both from a performance/longevity and economic point of view the only sensible option.
Though the one disc displays sign of the ceramic layer starting to break up, it has not reached the stage whereby it is de-laminating and unuseable.
Should I ever sell the car in the future it maybe beneficial to be able to refit the "original" PCCB setup to the car.
From what I've read both here on PH and Rennlist, the early ceramic brake setup is not the utopian concept it was portrayed as by Porsche in their original publicity material. On this basis it's replacement with steel discs seems both from a performance/longevity and economic point of view the only sensible option.
Edited by slippydiff on Friday 8th December 12:51
ballast said:
Just in the process of (hopefully) swapping the TT for a GT2, but I was surprised to find NO switches on the steering and a stick in the middle with numbers on it?
Can it be converted to Tiptronic do you think?
Over the lat few months of Turbo Tip driving I'm not sure my left leg can deal with a clutch again.
All that aside, what's it like living with a GT2 - dare you drive it in the wet or do you just get out and push if you get caught in rain.
LONG LIVE TIPS!
Can it be converted to Tiptronic do you think?
Over the lat few months of Turbo Tip driving I'm not sure my left leg can deal with a clutch again.
All that aside, what's it like living with a GT2 - dare you drive it in the wet or do you just get out and push if you get caught in rain.
LONG LIVE TIPS!
Get a life.......
loach said:
kayc said:
My gt3 was tiptronic,well it felt slow enough to be anyway
I know you're sort of kidding kayc; but try to get to the 'Ring when Dave321 is around with his GT3. It's a tidy and workmanlike car, dave is a handy and super-smooth wheelman and I'm sure he'd be happy to take you out because he's a really nice guy. He's there ar lot, and even keeps his car lodged in those parts to save him driving it back and forth; such is the frequency of his visits to the Nordschleif. I've done a ton of laps around the 'Ring in fairly quick machinery, including a couple of 911s up to and including the 997. A sorted 996 GT3 is as quick as it gets. I shit you not. In the right hands, a GT3 is effing devastatingly quick.
Though a TT has more road-usable performance and a bit more flexibility, granted.
GT2s are fantastic to drive in all conditions, but they're not quick in the wet. I'll re-phrase that, I'm not quick in my GT2 in the wet. You (I) cannot use full throttle on boost until 4th gear. Entry grip is phenomenal in the wet, exit grip.....be careful with your right foot.
In the dry, the best car I've ever driven. Leaves a TT(unmodified, non x50) for dead.
In all seriousness tiptronic would be a good idea, because it would allow two hands on the steering wheel at all times.
Chinny reckon.
In the dry, the best car I've ever driven. Leaves a TT(unmodified, non x50) for dead.
In all seriousness tiptronic would be a good idea, because it would allow two hands on the steering wheel at all times.
Chinny reckon.
Edited by simonharrod911 on Friday 8th December 11:30
simonharrod911 said:
GT2s are fantastic to drive in all conditions, but they're not quick in the wet. I'll re-phrase that, I'm not quick in my GT2 in the wet. You (I) cannot use full throttle on boost until 4th gear. Entry grip is phenomenal in the wet, exit grip.....be careful with your right foot.
In the dry, the best car I've ever driven. Leaves a TT(unmodified, non x50) for dead.
In all seriousness tiptronic would be a good idea, because it would allow two hands on the steering wheel at all times.
Chinny reckon.
In the dry, the best car I've ever driven. Leaves a TT(unmodified, non x50) for dead.
In all seriousness tiptronic would be a good idea, because it would allow two hands on the steering wheel at all times.
Chinny reckon.
Edited by simonharrod911 on Friday 8th December 11:30
....i must have the same model as you then as mine lacks wet weather pace
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