996-997 wet-sump engine reliability: enter your stats here!

996-997 wet-sump engine reliability: enter your stats here!

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d0ntp4n1c

68 posts

101 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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2001 3.6 Carrera 2 bought a month ago with 87k on the clock. 911virgin had the RMS and IMS done and there's no engine trouble in the history. They do a year's warranty on the drivetrain for £400 (parts and labour) so expensive failures can't be *that* common. Loving the car even though everyone thinks I must have won the lottery or something.

Martian O

2,734 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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The first gen2 to suffer bore scoring! frown

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=866965#866965

Magic919

14,126 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Martian O said:
The first gen2 to suffer bore scoring! frown

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=866965#866965
Not quite. Mine was in March.

Gary11

4,151 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Quite sad to see the first of these,cylinders 5 and 6 Ill wager.

Magic919

14,126 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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You lose.

itsybitsy

4,128 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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i wager it is a 2008(or early car) and with pdk and it has had hose/pump failure!

Magic919

14,126 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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You also lose.

itsybitsy

4,128 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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so what year is it then? i still put my money on early 08 or 58 plate(2008/9 model year) with pdk

Magic919

14,126 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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He has a manual according to the thread.

itsybitsy

4,128 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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but is it an early production model?which like the early 991 have build quality issues hence i always wait 18-24 months into production before i buy a new model!

mollytherocker

14,348 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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itsybitsy said:
but is it an early production model?which like the early 991 have build quality issues hence i always wait 18-24 months into production before i buy a new model!
The 996 had its problems throughout its 7 year production and the bore scoring actually got worse!

The 997 had engine issues for 4+ years.

Edited by mollytherocker on Monday 3rd June 21:00

itsybitsy

4,128 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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mollytherocker said:
itsybitsy said:
but is it an early production model?which like the early 991 have build quality issues hence i always wait 18-24 months into production before i buy a new model!
The 996 had its problems throughout its production and the bore scoring actually got worse!

The 997 had engine issues for 4+ years.
but i am talking early production build quality,there is someone who posts on here who bought an early 991s and replaced it with a later build because of build issues and is not alone!hence i bet the failure is more to do with build quality issues than actual bore scoring of m96/7 engine

Martian O

2,734 posts

129 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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itsybitsy said:
....i still put my money on early 08 or 58 plate(2008/9 model year) with pdk
That's how bookies stay in business! biggrin

2009 C2S manual, 30K miles!

itsybitsy

4,128 posts

152 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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got the box wrong but although 2009 still could be an early car or 58 plate

Hilux2400

231 posts

103 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I have a 2003 996 Carrera 2. It had a replacement engine fitted sometime in 2005/2006 which was 46,630 units later than the original engine. The engine has the stamp "AT" which I understand is an abbreviation for "Austauschmotor" meaning exchange motor. The change took place before my ownership.

PHJayV8

612 posts

127 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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This is terrifying reading....

I've always wanted a 911, and thinking about trading an E46 M3 for one, was wondering why the water cooled ones were tending to be cheaper than the air cooled ones?

Options:-

a) get an air cooled one?
b) ensure the main shaft bearing has been done previously?
c) obtain or even buy a no quibble warranty

Reassurance please.... smile

Jay

Trev450

6,065 posts

139 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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The only safe options are (a and (c.

If you go the 'no quibble' warranty route it needs to be a Porsche warranty as the others are far less comprehensive when it comes to making claims.

Ian_UK1

1,495 posts

161 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Trev450 said:
The only safe options are (a and (c.

If you go the 'no quibble' warranty route it needs to be a Porsche warranty as the others are far less comprehensive when it comes to making claims.
Porsche doesn't exactly have an enviable track record when it comes to warranty claims either. A quick search on here will unearth some of the cynical, underhanded ways Porsche has found to deny legitimate claims. (False over-rev logs, caused by ECU glitches, being a current 'favourite')!


thegoose

8,075 posts

177 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Trev450 said:
The only safe options are (a and (c.

If you go the 'no quibble' warranty route it needs to be a Porsche warranty as the others are far less comprehensive when it comes to making claims.
Specialist Cars of Malton will cover it properly for 12 months (but their prices aren't bargain basement) and I think Paragon do good in-house cover too. Both without the OPC-only for any work stipulation of course.

magicman1

82 posts

159 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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itsybitsy said:
but is it an early production model?which like the early 991 have build quality issues hence i always wait 18-24 months into production before i buy a new model!
I had the first cayman S out of my opc back in the day, it pretty much fell apart over the first two months, I rejected the car and replaced it with a c4s. I revisited a cayman S a few years later and that one was fine.

Just bought a 996.1 C4S and debating what to do about warranty. Although this is my 13th Porsche and all I've ever had is a couple of rms (one of these I'm pretty sure was just the dealer looking for a payday) This forum doesn't help though!