Leather seat refurb/recolour
Discussion
Yes we did but we are leather restoration specialists.
It is something you can do yourself and instructions can be given but like anything else correct preparation is the key. If the instructions and curing times are followed to the letter then the results will be very good.
With leather restoration the selection of products together with correct preparation and finishing processes is the key to success. If you do this the chance of finish failure is kept to the minimum and as long as the leather is then correcly looked after and maintained then you should have long lasting results.
Hope this helps
It is something you can do yourself and instructions can be given but like anything else correct preparation is the key. If the instructions and curing times are followed to the letter then the results will be very good.
With leather restoration the selection of products together with correct preparation and finishing processes is the key to success. If you do this the chance of finish failure is kept to the minimum and as long as the leather is then correcly looked after and maintained then you should have long lasting results.
Hope this helps
Edited by judyb on Saturday 19th January 13:12
Hi
although this is a very old post, surprisingly we do still get quite a lot of referrals from it, which we are always grateful for. However, we have to then explain that we "do not" recommend colour/shade changes to leather & hopefully this will explain why:
Firstly, just to clear the other myth, automotive leather's colour is actually a surface applied pigment, not a dye. Initially getting into every nook & cranny is near impossible & the amount of colour required, in some cases, can be counterproductive. Too heavy & creases become cracks & cracks even deeper ones & it will be your old colour behind showing through. Eventually your old colour will wear back through anyway regardless.
With modern leather coatings being water-based, they (and our tannery system) rely heavily in the final matt sealing emulsion to provide the protection from premature wear & staining, but as these contain silicon/wax additives, adhesion can be an issue anyway without the right preparation being carried out.
Stripping all the original coloured pigment back to the hide beforehand is both messy & also counterproductive. There is a sealer applied to the natural porous hide's upper surface during tanning, which the pigment & final sealer sit on. Stripping this off not only removes all the hides oils, but also the filler & texturing the tanneries used to hide the skins natural flaws. It then allows the new finishes/coatings to absorb "into" the hide, where it stiffens the leather as it dries.
We hope this clears up the issue from our perspective?
regards
Steve Merrett
Leathercare Renovations Ltd
although this is a very old post, surprisingly we do still get quite a lot of referrals from it, which we are always grateful for. However, we have to then explain that we "do not" recommend colour/shade changes to leather & hopefully this will explain why:
Firstly, just to clear the other myth, automotive leather's colour is actually a surface applied pigment, not a dye. Initially getting into every nook & cranny is near impossible & the amount of colour required, in some cases, can be counterproductive. Too heavy & creases become cracks & cracks even deeper ones & it will be your old colour behind showing through. Eventually your old colour will wear back through anyway regardless.
With modern leather coatings being water-based, they (and our tannery system) rely heavily in the final matt sealing emulsion to provide the protection from premature wear & staining, but as these contain silicon/wax additives, adhesion can be an issue anyway without the right preparation being carried out.
Stripping all the original coloured pigment back to the hide beforehand is both messy & also counterproductive. There is a sealer applied to the natural porous hide's upper surface during tanning, which the pigment & final sealer sit on. Stripping this off not only removes all the hides oils, but also the filler & texturing the tanneries used to hide the skins natural flaws. It then allows the new finishes/coatings to absorb "into" the hide, where it stiffens the leather as it dries.
We hope this clears up the issue from our perspective?
regards
Steve Merrett
Leathercare Renovations Ltd
leathercare said:
Hi
although this is a very old post, surprisingly we do still get quite a lot of referrals from it, which we are always grateful for. However, we have to then explain that we "do not" recommend colour/shade changes to leather & hopefully this will explain why:
Firstly, just to clear the other myth, automotive leather's colour is actually a surface applied pigment, not a dye. Initially getting into every nook & cranny is near impossible & the amount of colour required, in some cases, can be counterproductive. Too heavy & creases become cracks & cracks even deeper ones & it will be your old colour behind showing through. Eventually your old colour will wear back through anyway regardless.
With modern leather coatings being water-based, they (and our tannery system) rely heavily in the final matt sealing emulsion to provide the protection from premature wear & staining, but as these contain silicon/wax additives, adhesion can be an issue anyway without the right preparation being carried out.
Stripping all the original coloured pigment back to the hide beforehand is both messy & also counterproductive. There is a sealer applied to the natural porous hide's upper surface during tanning, which the pigment & final sealer sit on. Stripping this off not only removes all the hides oils, but also the filler & texturing the tanneries used to hide the skins natural flaws. It then allows the new finishes/coatings to absorb "into" the hide, where it stiffens the leather as it dries.
We hope this clears up the issue from our perspective?
regards
Steve Merrett
Leathercare Renovations Ltd
Whilst most you say is correct, I disagree with never changing the colour of pigment coated leather. I too own a leather restoration company of 7 years (East Midlands, nowhere near you, company in my profile if of any interest) and on occasions we have done this without any failures. Indeed, there is a leather chair in my parents best room, which is now 14 years old, which 7 years ago I refinished in a slightly different shade of brown. It's still as good as the day I did it! although this is a very old post, surprisingly we do still get quite a lot of referrals from it, which we are always grateful for. However, we have to then explain that we "do not" recommend colour/shade changes to leather & hopefully this will explain why:
Firstly, just to clear the other myth, automotive leather's colour is actually a surface applied pigment, not a dye. Initially getting into every nook & cranny is near impossible & the amount of colour required, in some cases, can be counterproductive. Too heavy & creases become cracks & cracks even deeper ones & it will be your old colour behind showing through. Eventually your old colour will wear back through anyway regardless.
With modern leather coatings being water-based, they (and our tannery system) rely heavily in the final matt sealing emulsion to provide the protection from premature wear & staining, but as these contain silicon/wax additives, adhesion can be an issue anyway without the right preparation being carried out.
Stripping all the original coloured pigment back to the hide beforehand is both messy & also counterproductive. There is a sealer applied to the natural porous hide's upper surface during tanning, which the pigment & final sealer sit on. Stripping this off not only removes all the hides oils, but also the filler & texturing the tanneries used to hide the skins natural flaws. It then allows the new finishes/coatings to absorb "into" the hide, where it stiffens the leather as it dries.
We hope this clears up the issue from our perspective?
regards
Steve Merrett
Leathercare Renovations Ltd
We don't use a sealant either, using Morelli pigments we've never needed too.
There are occasions where I would definitely recommend against colour changing, if for example a house has cats.
Anyway, it's good to know of other contacts within our niche industry, and as I take calls from all over the UK on occasions I now know where I can refer anyone too if they call from the NW!
I’ve got a Cayenne with cream leather seats where the dye transfer from jeans has become a real issue on the drivers seat. Is it possible to get the seat refurbed and is there any coating that can be applied to stop dye transfer/make it possible to clean it ? I have tried more leather cleaning products than I can remember trying to keep the seat clean!
Cheib said:
I’ve got a Cayenne with cream leather seats where the dye transfer from jeans has become a real issue on the drivers seat. Is it possible to get the seat refurbed and is there any coating that can be applied to stop dye transfer/make it possible to clean it ? I have tried more leather cleaning products than I can remember trying to keep the seat clean!
Where are you located Cheib? Yes, is the the short answer. Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Cheib said:
I’ve got a Cayenne with cream leather seats where the dye transfer from jeans has become a real issue on the drivers seat. Is it possible to get the seat refurbed and is there any coating that can be applied to stop dye transfer/make it possible to clean it ? I have tried more leather cleaning products than I can remember trying to keep the seat clean!
Where are you located Cheib? Yes, is the the short answer. Cheib said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Cheib said:
I’ve got a Cayenne with cream leather seats where the dye transfer from jeans has become a real issue on the drivers seat. Is it possible to get the seat refurbed and is there any coating that can be applied to stop dye transfer/make it possible to clean it ? I have tried more leather cleaning products than I can remember trying to keep the seat clean!
Where are you located Cheib? Yes, is the the short answer. Judy there can talk you through anything, should it be needed. Always keep new denim off leather, until colour-fast, ditto wet denim.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK, this is the product you need - http://lttleathercare.com/product/jean-dye-transfe...
Judy there can talk you through anything, should it be needed. Always keep new denim off leather, until colour-fast, ditto wet denim.
Just seen this post! I tried the products from Little Leather Care, promotes heavily on a detailing forum. Didn’t work and the very helpful July (when selling their products) went very quiet then they didn’t. Judy there can talk you through anything, should it be needed. Always keep new denim off leather, until colour-fast, ditto wet denim.
Cheib said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK, this is the product you need - http://lttleathercare.com/product/jean-dye-transfe...
Judy there can talk you through anything, should it be needed. Always keep new denim off leather, until colour-fast, ditto wet denim.
Just seen this post! I tried the products from Little Leather Care, promotes heavily on a detailing forum. Didn’t work and the very helpful July (when selling their products) went very quiet then they didn’t. Judy there can talk you through anything, should it be needed. Always keep new denim off leather, until colour-fast, ditto wet denim.
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