What value damaged repaired 964 RS?
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Currently looking at a once damaged but professionaly repaired 964 RS, presuming factory Club Sport due to minimal spec (althought originality will be thoroughly checked out) LHD 91/92 car.
Does anyone know what such a machine would be worth, bearing in mind the high prices dealers are asking for the things? I am assuming it has been recorded as Cat D.
Thanks in advance
Does anyone know what such a machine would be worth, bearing in mind the high prices dealers are asking for the things? I am assuming it has been recorded as Cat D.
Thanks in advance
If it's been professionally repaired and is unrecorded, the value will be much the same, maybe fractionally lower. Maybe 1 or 2k lower than if it hadn't got accident or race history.
If it is on a Category D and recorded through HPI etc. then that is a different matter as although the repair may be good, the stigma of a Category rating could put off buyers. In that case maybe 3-5k lower.
Main thing is to look at the quality of the rebuild. My RS had some accident damage repaired on it by a highly respected OPC bodyshop and the work was, in my view, substandard. It has since been rebuilt properly with due care and attention.
RSs are sturdy cars and if repaired/rebuilt properly - without cutting corners - should be effectively as good as new. Keep your eye out, but not sure you will get a massive bargain as many RSs have had crash damage and trackday use etc and so a little 'history' is accepted, as long as everything is in order.
If it is on a Category D and recorded through HPI etc. then that is a different matter as although the repair may be good, the stigma of a Category rating could put off buyers. In that case maybe 3-5k lower.
Main thing is to look at the quality of the rebuild. My RS had some accident damage repaired on it by a highly respected OPC bodyshop and the work was, in my view, substandard. It has since been rebuilt properly with due care and attention.
RSs are sturdy cars and if repaired/rebuilt properly - without cutting corners - should be effectively as good as new. Keep your eye out, but not sure you will get a massive bargain as many RSs have had crash damage and trackday use etc and so a little 'history' is accepted, as long as everything is in order.
agree with domster 
you need to give us some more info to work with, but basically RSs are always worth repairing properly and they are meant to be used properly ie put on the racing line....which means damage from time to time. there may be some 'garage queens' out there waiting for museum curators / collectors but most cars get battle scars...like pimples on their 'bottoms' caused by debris chucked up at the unprotected hind quarters
you need to give us some more info to work with, but basically RSs are always worth repairing properly and they are meant to be used properly ie put on the racing line....which means damage from time to time. there may be some 'garage queens' out there waiting for museum curators / collectors but most cars get battle scars...like pimples on their 'bottoms' caused by debris chucked up at the unprotected hind quarters
Basicly the car has had a new front end, in the process losing some of the RS's individual features like ally bonnet and mag rims.
I have yet to HPI and confirm cat D status.
Car also has no history with it, but I would hope to try and track some down.
Are there any pointers in the engine/ chassis numbers that would identify it as a genuine RS and not just a back to basics C2?
I have yet to HPI and confirm cat D status.
Car also has no history with it, but I would hope to try and track some down.
Are there any pointers in the engine/ chassis numbers that would identify it as a genuine RS and not just a back to basics C2?
the front end repair using 964c2 parts does not compromise the RS integrity if carried out by porsche specialists, it is a valid repair. the bonnet could be replaced (£££) and the mag wheels reinstated (£££), better shop around for s/h parts rather than 'new'.
if you post the engine & chassis numbers, plenty of experts to tell you if they fit.
chassis in range WPOZZZ96ZNS490001-2500
engine type M64/03 62N80001-
you might want to consider joining Porsche Club GB , they have a 964RS register.
if you post the engine & chassis numbers, plenty of experts to tell you if they fit.
chassis in range WPOZZZ96ZNS490001-2500
engine type M64/03 62N80001-
you might want to consider joining Porsche Club GB , they have a 964RS register.
d5hef said:
Basicly the car has had a new front end, in the process losing some of the RS's individual features like ally bonnet and mag rims.
I have yet to HPI and confirm cat D status.
Car also has no history with it, but I would hope to try and track some down.
Are there any pointers in the engine/ chassis numbers that would identify it as a genuine RS and not just a back to basics C2?
I'd be more worried about it losing these features and its history! That could knock much more off than a decent and expensive repair using original bits. Sounds like a bit of a munter. Hmmm. Shouldn't pay over 20k for something like that. You can get ones with all the right parts and history for 23k (see PH classifieds).
Don't forget the front PU too - that's different on an RS. I've seen 'em with steel bonnets, fibreglass bonnets, 2 mags and 2 non mags, PUs with headlamp washer holes...ALL AT DEALERS TOO!
I'd value the car at no more than £15k - but if the guy's a trader he'd add his £5k profit on wouldn't he
I'd value the car at no more than £15k - but if the guy's a trader he'd add his £5k profit on wouldn't he
Rubystone is close to the mark price wise I reckon, cheapest one I've seen which was in a similar condition but did have good history was £12k.
The lack of a proper bonnet & wheels wouldnt bother me as they are available 2nd hand if they bother you, but the lack of history is however a bit of a problem and so would it be if the thing has had a decent shunt and the chassis has not been jigged properly and drives down the road like a pi$$ed up crab.
CS is worth fair bit more than a normal RS usually so maybe £15k is fair, but this car could potentially cost well over £20k or more to put right so an inspection is more important than anything.
Also why no history? remember it could be a stolen German car & hpi wont show it.
The lack of a proper bonnet & wheels wouldnt bother me as they are available 2nd hand if they bother you, but the lack of history is however a bit of a problem and so would it be if the thing has had a decent shunt and the chassis has not been jigged properly and drives down the road like a pi$$ed up crab.
CS is worth fair bit more than a normal RS usually so maybe £15k is fair, but this car could potentially cost well over £20k or more to put right so an inspection is more important than anything.
Also why no history? remember it could be a stolen German car & hpi wont show it.
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