968CS - Info Required

968CS - Info Required

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dj kam

Original Poster:

177 posts

254 months

Monday 6th October 2003
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Really appreciate the info guys, got the sort of detail I was after. I think my minds made up, 968cs with M030 as I will hopefully track it at some point. So if anyone got one for sale drop me a message.

SKIDMARK

11 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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This thread probably dead by now. I ran a 968CS for a couple of years before my 964RS.

The great thing about the 968 is the chassis balance. You really can drift it around beautifully. They are very tyre sensitive though, make sure you've got some good rubber on the back or those drifts will turn into snappy nightmares !

The 964RS is a totally different experience, dominated by that wailing flat six. AS has been mentioned they take a lot more driving & feel weird after say a more conventional car ( front engine RWD ). Once you get the hang of it though, the rewards are great. Brakes fantastic, on a smooth road predictable & iron fisted. Agree with an earlier comment - if it's wet or very bumpy you'd need balls of steel & superglue on your feet & backside to stay with a well driven 968CS.

Domster is spot on - the standard brakes are marginal & do not inspire confidence. Well worth seeking out an M030 car. My car was reliable & reasonable to run , apart from tyres. Good luck.

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Melv said:
" Not M030. Bog standard immaculate original Clubsport -all bills and owners. LSD. Fastidious owner. Four owners of which three have been collectors. On original tyres!! AFAIK, never tracked"

Melv


Melv, just curious is ya chums 968 RHD or LHD?

Melv

4,708 posts

266 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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iguana said:

Melv, just curious is ya chums 968 RHD or LHD?


See the classifieds Mr Lizard.

Melv
PS I can't remember!!!

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Yeah saw the ad Melv but it doesnt say.

I assume RHD for that £ anyway, coz otherwise its waaaaaaay over priced.

Going back to Porkers with the engines in the wrong end how was your blast in Mr Longs GT3R?? and do you have the insider info ref the beasts replacement???

>> Edited by iguana on Thursday 9th October 22:08

Melv

4,708 posts

266 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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LHD Iggy. Look at the mileage though, my boy!!

Rode in the Earl's car at Donnington -yeh, OK. Well set up now.

Had fun with mine at Silverstone 2 weeks ago though!! Have excellent in car footage too!

Some F40 and 360 eating bits which I must show Manu!!



Melv

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Fair enough Melv, he may get some takers at that level, just I'd have rather have had the mint RHD CS I was offered- with the same miles plus new cams (£2k's worth & all 968's need em at some point) for £12k tho...... just a bugger I didnt have the £ at the time really.


Good to know you are out terrorising the tracks again, look out dancing donkeys Melv von Dr Damp has got his wagon back

ps you running on slicks again?

Thhom

1,716 posts

248 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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iguana said:
[new cams] all 968's need em at some point)



They don't if they get the cam chain tensioner/pad checked and replaced when required.
It should be checked at every belts service.

>> Edited by Thhom on Friday 10th October 18:47

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Thhom said:

iguana said:
[new cams] all 968's need em at some point)



They don't if they get the cam chain tensioner/pad checked and replaced when required.
It should be checked at every belts service.




I disagree my continental chum, every CS I know of (and this ranges from 40k miles to 100k miles examples) has either had 'em done or has needed 'em done, all coz the teeth on the cams have been shagged.

On S2's yip I agree cams are not an issue, (the chain & tensioner certainly is tho) but as I recall changing the chain & pad is not on the OPC service schedules & it needs clued up specilaists to suggest it.

Thhom

1,716 posts

248 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Well, as the 968-specific cam chain tensioner provides variable valve timing (Variocam) I would think the chain's tension varies to a significantly high degree, so the sprockets may indeed wear out quicker than on S2 cams. Therefore you actually may be right.

Another detail that convinces me out of a 968 ...

>> Edited by Thhom on Friday 10th October 19:05

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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When I had my tensioner checked and the chain replaced at 90k miles it had stretched by 10mm Luckily the cam sprockets were ok...

heyou

72 posts

249 months

Sunday 19th October 2003
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SFV said:

....Porsche 968 equipment specifications:

Item /968 /Club Sport /M030 Package

Tub /Rust Prot. /Painted /Painted


I didn't realise that the CS didn't have rust Protection, i take by that you mean galvanised? or does it mean something completely different?

Del.

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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It means the waxoyl type gunk they spray over the galvanised paint work for additional Rust Protection. This reduces bodywork warranty from circa 10 years to 3 years, IIRC.

All Porsche metal is galvanised, and has been since the 70s.

GregE240

10,857 posts

268 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Thhom said:
Well, as the 968-specific cam chain tensioner provides variable valve timing (Variocam) I would think the chain's tension varies to a significantly high degree, so the sprockets may indeed wear out quicker than on S2 cams. Therefore you actually may be right.

Another detail that convinces me out of a 968 ...

>> Edited by Thhom on Friday 10th October 19:05

A good buyers guide (although for the convertible) in this months GT Pretty Pictures, mentions the engine related issues with 968s

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Presumably they show a nice double page photo of the engine bay, beautifully shot and lit, with the caption:

"968 engines have been known to go wrong."

LOL

diver944

1,843 posts

277 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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....and when you look closely it will be a 944 engine