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DontLift said:
from memory i think i got 143 last time
Think its was 10mph less mate, coz I only cracked a mere 131 on the bike and you were dead chuffed to have beaten me by a few mph
I do think S2 vs yours would be very interesting, you will have less bhp but also a fair bit less lard- somat like 150kg 'ish' as standard & thats before you go on this winters RS type Atkins diet.
Must say however with your chassis mods you should be able to kick an S2's arse in the twisty bits tho.
DontLift said:
so in estimation the 160 was probably more like 140 - 145 which reads in with the rest of the figures we have for these cars
I now use a road angel as my speedo as dont trust a word mine says
>> Edited by DontLift on Wednesday 8th October 20:39
oh yes most speedos on older cars are way off the mark, as high as 20mph at brunters I seem to recall. GPS however as proved at brunters is bang on.
Basically tho if the car is geared so you can get it to the limiter in top- it just wont go any faster then that is top whack as tested by Autocar etc.
In the case of my S2 I wasnt on the limiter, but was in the red and held it for a good couple of miles downhill so without GPS who knows? offical figs say 149 for an S2, so either way it must have been close.
Been a lot quicker on the speedo of other far swifter things, but again who knows what it really was without GPS.
iguana said:
maybe UK cars were detuned like US cars ?
Nah Dom has 'em detuned especially to try & reduce Domster-badger interface moments
Dom obiously didnt like it much anyway, as he set fire to the fecker soon after
Yoooo guys!!!!
I said that I - me - Domster - Badger bandit - only managed to get 140 out of my S2 cab. Yes it will be slower than a coupe, as the Lizard says for all those worthy reasons. But it didn't go faster because I didn't let it go faster... it was adding speed on like a geriatric tortoise at that speed and I was running out of clear road. I'm sure that given enough room it would do 149 or whatever Porsche quoted for it (which is probably about 157 or so on the clock).
Cab still understeered like a stuck pig, unlike the coupes tho'. And the wiring was terrible, eh, Scottster
iguana said:
I do think S2 vs yours would be very interesting, you will have less bhp but also a fair bit less lard- somat like 150kg 'ish' as standard & thats before you go on this winters RS type Atkins diet.
Must say however with your chassis mods you should be able to kick an S2's arse in the twisty bits tho.
did rolling road the other week and am getting 189 bhp with the new ECU etc fitted, and have now done all the engine mods i will be doing for a while. But what i like best on the car is the suspension, with the leda's on you can just throw it at corners at almost any speed and know you will come out the other side, so yes i imagine it would probably see off alot of things in the twisties.
We are hoping to knock the car down to 1000kg with the grp body etc, that will include the addition of a cut down version of a cup cage, plumbed in fire extinguisher etc. and the vast majority of the interior will be removed (carpets, door skins etc) but I am retaining the rear seats - hence cut down version of the cup cage removing the brace bars that go across the rear seat area - the cage once in will also allow the removal of the torsion bars (as we can brace the top mounting points for the rear dampers - and run with just the LEDA coil overs over the rear end).
once all that is done, next job will be bigger brakes and a supercharger :-D hopefully in time for next summmer.
Needless to say I have now taken the car off the market and decided to stick with it for sometime to come.
And in the meantime I really must get round to doing the front busches as they are almost totally foobar after only 6 months on the car - putting poly's on this time should last a bit longer.
>> Edited by dontlift on Thursday 9th October 12:47
That sounds mighty impressive Dontlift 
In some ways I wish I had gone down that route of a lightweight track car instead of buying my Turbo. It's now putting out 287bhp and 331 lbft of torque (on the rollers last week) but is still carrying around 1400 kg
Your 189bhp from the 2.5 is truly outstanding, S2's are 211 and have much more weight. With your Leda's you would truly spank my wifes car on track. Keep up the good work
Supercharger methinks you need some taller gear ratios for the next Brunters
In some ways I wish I had gone down that route of a lightweight track car instead of buying my Turbo. It's now putting out 287bhp and 331 lbft of torque (on the rollers last week) but is still carrying around 1400 kg
Your 189bhp from the 2.5 is truly outstanding, S2's are 211 and have much more weight. With your Leda's you would truly spank my wifes car on track. Keep up the good work
Supercharger
methinks you need some taller gear ratios for the next Brunters
diver944 said:
methinks you need some taller gear ratios for the next Brunters
Gearbox is already totally out of kilter with the power and 1st is as good as useless - always pull off in 2nd now unless it is uphill and then it is 2 seconds in first to get her rolling then change up.
Havnt decided what to do on the gearbox front yet althought he Quaiffe catalogue on the end of my desk keeps trying to steal my credit card..... but seriously i reckon the way forward will be to srop a later turbo gearbox in.
>> Edited by DontLift on Thursday 9th October 22:07
DontLift said:
i reckon the way forward will be to strap a later turbo gearbox in.
It depends what you want to do. As a serious track car then that would be the obvious solution
If you also wanted to tease some of these top speed freaks at Brunters, then the Turbo gearbox hits the limiter at only 172 mph in 5th Gear. I know this as mine did it on the rollers last week I was the other side of the car park quivering
Top speed is not really of interest to me, it is more the 0-60 / 0 - 100 / 70 - 120 type performance i am looking for preferably with a nice tall 5th which will do everyting from say 60 to whatever for normal driving....
Anyone know what the 968 gearboxs are like, as a six speed would give me another option
Anyone know what the 968 gearboxs are like, as a six speed would give me another option
rubystone said:
Just picked up on this thread - one fundamental problem here - unles Sheepy's got a nice early pull doorhandle MGB he'd better stay looking at 924s or early 944s as he ain't gonna get £5k for his fine British Sports car in the first place!
See my profile. '66 Roadster in tartan red, chrome bumpers, wire-wheels, O/D box, u/l conversion and of course tax free. All I need to do is make her as shiney now as she was when the piccy was taken. £4-5k should be about right, so laugh away.
Sheepy - so you do indeed have yourself a nice car that should give you a fighting chance of raising £5K indeed - mea culpa - 
but the number of dorks that own a 1977 Brooklands Green roadster that think that it's still worth the £7k they paid last year from one of the MG dealers (no names...)
but the number of dorks that own a 1977 Brooklands Green roadster that think that it's still worth the £7k they paid last year from one of the MG dealers (no names...) Sheppy,
If you've been driving a MG, you're going to think a normally aspirated 944 is a rocket ship. It will out-accelerate, out-brake, out-speed, and out-handle virtually anything a MG can do, and it will do it in such a refined manner you won't believe it. Even the basic 944 can out drag an early model Datsun 240-Z six cylinder car, ha ha, so you can see what you're getting into by jumping off the MG wagon and getting into a world class sports car. Not to be smug about the MG, I like some of the things about them, but they're nowhere in the same league as a 944. Just for grins, look at the "HUGE" rear disc brakes on the rear of a 944, ha ha, I'll bet they are far bigger than the ones on the front of the MG. You're going to feel like you're flying an aircraft!
Regards from Nashville,
Dogsharks
If you've been driving a MG, you're going to think a normally aspirated 944 is a rocket ship. It will out-accelerate, out-brake, out-speed, and out-handle virtually anything a MG can do, and it will do it in such a refined manner you won't believe it. Even the basic 944 can out drag an early model Datsun 240-Z six cylinder car, ha ha, so you can see what you're getting into by jumping off the MG wagon and getting into a world class sports car. Not to be smug about the MG, I like some of the things about them, but they're nowhere in the same league as a 944. Just for grins, look at the "HUGE" rear disc brakes on the rear of a 944, ha ha, I'll bet they are far bigger than the ones on the front of the MG. You're going to feel like you're flying an aircraft!
Regards from Nashville,
Dogsharks
I drove a mates old MGB GT of a while back (not sure of year, but it was a chrome bumper jobbie) always liked the look & sound of 'em & thought I might buy it as she was selling hers.
Start it up & pull away & ahh what a lovely growl the engine makes for a 4 cylinder, power & speed wise I thought were fair enough, considering the age etc, but as I came to the first set of twisty bits- sweet baby jesus & the orhans it was bad.
All I can describe it like handling/suspension wise is a cross between a horse drawn cart & a supermarket trolly with wonky wheels.
I know they use tele-griever grumble futtock trunions or some such out dated suspension arrangement that sounds like an old English Ale, but god it was woefull, needless to say I was no longer intrested in purchacing it
Start it up & pull away & ahh what a lovely growl the engine makes for a 4 cylinder, power & speed wise I thought were fair enough, considering the age etc, but as I came to the first set of twisty bits- sweet baby jesus & the orhans it was bad.
All I can describe it like handling/suspension wise is a cross between a horse drawn cart & a supermarket trolly with wonky wheels.
I know they use tele-griever grumble futtock trunions or some such out dated suspension arrangement that sounds like an old English Ale, but god it was woefull, needless to say I was no longer intrested in purchacing it
MIne has had the handling "tweaked". It's amazing how dropping the rear by an inch and using slightly stiffer springs and modern dampers improves the ride.
AJ thanks for pointing out I've got Jaggy. She's bloody quick as long as the road is straight!! The rear disks on her are bigger than the front disks on the 'B. Heck the Jag's front disks are nearly as big as the 'B's wheels!!!!
This has been a great thread to follow, and I'd like to thanks everyone. I'm undecided whether to put the B up for sale now and see what interest I get, or to spend the winter tidying up the few small patches of bubbling (none of which are more than cosmetic) and then sell her in the spring.
Either way I'm hoping to be 944 endowed by next summer!!
Sheepy
AJ thanks for pointing out I've got Jaggy. She's bloody quick as long as the road is straight!! The rear disks on her are bigger than the front disks on the 'B. Heck the Jag's front disks are nearly as big as the 'B's wheels!!!!
This has been a great thread to follow, and I'd like to thanks everyone. I'm undecided whether to put the B up for sale now and see what interest I get, or to spend the winter tidying up the few small patches of bubbling (none of which are more than cosmetic) and then sell her in the spring.
Either way I'm hoping to be 944 endowed by next summer!!
Sheepy
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