Would you ever consider a TVR??
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After a 968CS I think the :ahem: 964RS will be the only Porsche offering you more of a TVR experience in terms of noise/character and performance for your money.
Not sure a standard 964 would do it, unless you were coming from a standard 968.
ATB
Domster (not a fan of 964RSs, honestly)
Not sure a standard 964 would do it, unless you were coming from a standard 968.
ATB
Domster (not a fan of 964RSs, honestly)
rubystone said:
Blimey Iguana - you might be contemplating buying a Caterham? Act quickly and check out the For Sale section of www.Blatchat.com - there's a reasonably priced Fireblade on there in my favourite colour.
I know you'll buy a nice Autofarm 2.7RS recreation
Bit steep for the Lizard budget & as much as I love bike power it would need to be a road car too, so windscreen & hood etc would dent the performance some what.
The budget would be nearer this sorta thing anyway-
www.blatchat.com/t.asp?Id=38092
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Its not an issue at the mo as I'm not quite in a position to buy for a while yet, however what I'd really want is an SV, coz normal ones are a tad tight for me- bareable as a track toy wearing pixie boots & race suit etc if the blade engined jobbie I went in a while back is anything to go by, but with my normal size 13 boots & in normal clothes I need to be oiled up like a turkish wrestler to fit in a standard caterham
the bummer is that SVs are too flippin pricey tho 
domster said:
After a 968CS I think the :ahem: 964RS will be the only Porsche offering you more of a TVR experience in terms of noise/character and performance for your money.
Not sure a standard 964 would do it, unless you were coming from a standard 968.
ATB
Domster (not a fan of 964RSs, honestly)
Or what about a 964 turbo? My budget is about 25K. You can get a LHD turbo for that but most RS's seem to be mid 30's.
Now forgive my late entry into this thread, but i was getting a little bored with the porsche threads and when this tvr business started to turn up, i left it for a few days. in my absence from the forum i found the tvrbliss site and watched some of the clips. I now think that i will definately consider getting a tvr as a toy, the noise and grunt demonstrated in the videos was breath taking to say the least.
Oh mr ninemeister, when i get my lardy 965 on monday, do i come to you for tuning advice?
Oh mr ninemeister, when i get my lardy 965 on monday, do i come to you for tuning advice?
Ew TC why not go to www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com
I am sure they will be able to help you with the 965 on there.
I am sure they will be able to help you with the 965 on there.
Ew...I hope you enjoy your new toy when it arrives next week,,I look forward to hearing about your experiences.
Looking at your profile of previous cars,,i think you may underestimate the learning curve of actually driving the car quickly and consistently....this is all part of the fun and will keep you keen.
I have a funny feeling that we may be seeing some posts from you in the next few months on the best ways to lighten up or improve the handling of your 965 as it only seems to go fast in a straight line...have fun!
Looking at your profile of previous cars,,i think you may underestimate the learning curve of actually driving the car quickly and consistently....this is all part of the fun and will keep you keen.
I have a funny feeling that we may be seeing some posts from you in the next few months on the best ways to lighten up or improve the handling of your 965 as it only seems to go fast in a straight line...have fun!
My case is rested UV
I have to say i was impressed with your car at Bruntingthorpe at the weekend. The 965 has so much tuning potential in many departments to make a truly amazing car.
I do find power is everything comments a little scary from 911 virgins.......Respect is everything is more suitable from my 2wd Turbo driving experiences.
I have to say i was impressed with your car at Bruntingthorpe at the weekend. The 965 has so much tuning potential in many departments to make a truly amazing car.
I do find power is everything comments a little scary from 911 virgins.......Respect is everything is more suitable from my 2wd Turbo driving experiences.
Club sport, im only winding you up. I have a 911 in the family which i drive as often as i can( once a month). My 965 has fully adjustable suspension already. I think the turbo will get a lot of respect. I did used to race karts and didnt do too badly. I know road driving is a little different to track but thats all part of the fun. I look forward to meeting up with you guys some day and hopfully you will see im not a boy racer but enjoy prestige motoring and speedy progress.
rubystone said:
I thougut that the Esprit V8 was criticised for its lack of torque - perhaps that's not what you mean by "grunt" though ?
I passengered in a mates V8 on a 4th gear drag from 40mph vs a Ferrari 360 on Kemble airfield . The Esprit left the Fezzer for dead. Torque - loads of it mate.
I think the Lotus V8 is a crminally underated engine. Powerful, torqey and as it is in a mild state of tune it has loads of development potential. Reliable too, not made of chocolate like a certain other UK sportscar
I hope Lotus persevere with the V8 in a promised new Esprit. Might tempt me out of my 996 that would...
toppstuff said:
I thougut that the Esprit V8 was criticised for its lack of torque - perhaps that's not what you mean by "grunt" though ?
I think the Lotus V8 is a crminally underated engine. Powerful, torqey and as it is in a mild state of tune it has loads of development potential. Reliable too, not made of chocolate like a certain other UK sportscar
Two words: 'cylinder' and 'liners'.
The V8 is hardly a paragon of reliability
The Esprit V8, lovely as it is, still has serious issues. An engine that has to be detuned because the gearbox can't take it. Usual Hethel build problems. Things going bang unexpectedly, like clutches. (Rob Ellis once had a bill for 4k in one hit on his V8 Esprit).
I always likes the Esprit, but after seeing them being built at Hethel, and having a bit of a chat with people that owned them, I went off the idea slightly.
You buy a 996tt not for the performance, but for the fact you can access the performance consistently day in day out, with less chance of failure than other supercars that can match or exceed it dynamically.
The 996tts at Bruntingthorpe were not the most glamorous or dramatic steeds on the day, but they were the most impressive... they kept hitting the highest figures within a mile an hour of previous attempts, time and time again, with no need for a cool down etc.
Lovely as Esprits still are, they are in the TVR, Ferrari, Lamborghini (and indeed Ultima) mould of prima donna temperamental supercar machinery. I think the 996tt is an appliance in a league of its own - the German school swot.
Plotloss said:
I think the 996tt is an appliance in a league of its own
Aint that the truth
Astonishing, still astonished even now.
I didnt "get" Porker Turbos before (TVR nut through and through, rwd + front engined please) but one run in Dazrens Porker was incredible. Ridiculously able in every aspect, braking/cornering/accelerating - seriously good (helped no doubt by Daz's rather good driving).
I seriously doubt there is any other car on the planet that seems to do everything so effortlessly, we did 178 without it ever feeling like it was scary. Perhaps thats why I would still go for a TVR over a Porsche, but there is no denying thier capabilities!!
Certainly a car for my future garage (alongside Blackpools finest), autobahn munching four wheel drift supercar, excellent.
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