hi all looking for some 996 advice please

hi all looking for some 996 advice please

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snazza

Original Poster:

115 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Hi all, I currently have a TVR t350c.....love it but its got to go ...to unreliable for my liking.
which brings me to my question, I am looking at the propspect of getting a 996 c2 cab, about a 99-00 model, on average millage.....just wanted to know what I should be looking out for, what are the usual things that can go wrong with a car of this age....how reliable are they, and what should i be paying? eithe privately or through a dealer. A lot of questions but I would really appreciate any help and advice anyone could give me ........
regards
snazza

bluevelvet

2,323 posts

255 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Look to spend £37-40k..for a good private car..up to say £44k at a dealer....usual servce history,is importnt,,some problems with build quality,,main seals on '99 cars (warranty issue) price will be dependent on spec & colour,,,18" wheels essential for re-sale.
I would quite honestly drove a Boxster S before you go down the 996 cab route, unless you need the 2 mini rear seats.
A 996 Cab is not really a car for a city trader,it is more the sort of car driven by an FX salesman!

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Definitely consider the Boxster S if you want a Cabrio. I've had two and I'm not bored yet.

There again...you can obtain a LHD 996 Turbo at that age at astonishingly reasonable money - and that's not a sports car its a supercar...

snazza

Original Poster:

115 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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bluevelvet....you hit the nail on the head...fx sales it is!! hahaha..but will def look at the boxter s though......i guess for the same money I would be looking at a brand new one right?

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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snazza said:
bluevelvet....you hit the nail on the head...fx sales it is!! hahaha..but will def look at the boxter s though......i guess for the same money I would be looking at a brand new one right?



Yep. A BoxS starts at 38 but most of us spend 45-48. Reason being you absolutely must have a certain set of options to preserve re-sale value.

Examples are:

Wind Deflector
Full Leather Interior
Stereo Upgrade
Some nice wheels.
On Board Computer

Mine has:

Wind Deflector
Full Leather
Litronic
Heated Seats
Porsche Sound Pack
Painted Roll Bars
Sport Design 18" Wheels
On Board Computer
Sports Seats
Gearstick in Aluminium/Leather

Things to consider

Cruise
Hardtop - expensive
SatNav - expensive
Phone
Memory Seats/Buckets (convenience vs track day!)


Go have some fun with the Porsche Car Configurator on the Porsche web site - brilliant entertainment. Then come back here and ask what all the options actually look like.

>> Edited by Don on Thursday 13th November 12:13

911newbie

598 posts

261 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Snazza,
I was lusting after a T350 last weekend and wondering hwat it would be like to swap from my current 993. Sorry to hear you have been having difficulties with it, what sort of problems have you had come up ?

I thought they had more or less cracked the problems with the straight 6 ?
Cheers

snazza

Original Poster:

115 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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well no real engine probs as such (apart from after a recent service the garage forgot to tighten the rocker cover up and caused oil to p*** all over the engine bay!!) but probs with the radiator, shocks (they had fitted the wrong ones {from birth} which caused the car to 'ground' constantly) , windscreen, rear window, side windows, doors, interior trim, electronics, windsreen wipers, a/c and usual engine timing issues
a damn shame .... always wanted a TVR and to have a great, great drivers car sulied by very poor build quality, extremly low reliability and very poor quality control at the factory stage is very depressing. if only Porsche owned TVR !!

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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I have driven both T350c and 993 (C2). I wasn't that impressed with the T350 and would advise hanging onto the 993, or maybe going for RS or Turbo. All in my extremely biased opinion, of course

oldtimer

300 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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hi snazza , blue velvet is about right, u will pay north of £35k. 18 inch wheels good spec, but you can upgrade to these for £1k ( more or less depending on source manufacturer and newness). I'd try to get one with satnav, expensive option when new at £3k , can not be retrofitted. Reliability comes as standard.

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Hello porsche people! Just popped over from the T350c forum to see what snazza has been saying about our cars and give some balance to his comments.

I have to admit that most T350s have lots of niggly problems from new but they usually settle down after the first 6 months- much like all new TVRs. Don't forget they're ahead in the performance stakes and half the price of a decent 996.

BTW I prefer your 993's to your 996's- a lot more involving.



domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Hi blueyes!

Cheers for some balanced input

The one I drove kept locking the rears under braking, which worried me, and I wasn't a fan of the box. Felt a tad more fragile, but it is certainly quick and a bit of a looker.

Just very different from a 993... ie they both have qualities and disadvantages, but there is not much overlap going on.

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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domster said:


The one I drove kept locking the rears under braking, which worried me, and I wasn't a fan of the box.


Strange! Never heard of that problem. Sticking a fat bird in the boot should sort it. Oh and the box is much better when it's been warmed up.

GEARBOX, silly!

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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I'm glad podie didn't spot that one

MOD500

2,686 posts

251 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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All this talk of mutiny from TVR to Porkers

Domster you must have messed my head up talking to me about Turbo 4's, and RS's at BTaP as I've bought Top Marques today and have been looking at T4's, 964/993 RS's. The RS' are expensive for their age, I assume the driving experience accounts for this. Must say I prefer the look of the 964 RS, those cup sport wheels

>> Edited by MOD500 on Thursday 13th November 18:02

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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The RSs are expensive as the popularity of trackdays has made them more sought after, plus in my estimation they offer slightly more character because of their purposefulness. They are also rare and the original 73 RS has maybe added a halo effect in terms of collectability. They are harder to live with and more extreme on the road, but their ability on track and the raw excitement they dish up is worth every penny of their premium, IMO. I would say that the 993RS is probably a better car (certainly a better all round package), but at 50% more pricewise than a 964RS, is it worth it? If you can afford it, it's a fine choice.

The T4 is a superb machine, but is more acceleration/top end speed than cornering biased. That's not to say it doesn't go around them, just that it isn't the car''s raison d'etre. However, it is twice as easy to live with than an RS and much more of a practical everyday road car. Something you could easily commute in.

TVRs are very raw by their nature, so I think the only fair comparisons are against the RSs, GTwhatevers or Turbos in the Porsche range. Done by budget, you could have a Tuscan for 25k second hand or a 964RS, say. If you do a lot of trackdays, I would say the RS makes a better choice even at the sacrifice of blistering speed and vomitallic paint jobs - see how many 964RSs are driven on track compared to how many Tuscans.

Cheers
Dom

Clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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Keep going with the RS mantra Dom,,you make a good analyst for us existing stock holders.

Obviously one thing to help prices is the relatively small numbers of RS models produced particularly in RHD

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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domster said:
They are also rare


I don't miss a trick Paul

LOL, yes, anything I can do for the League Against Cupholders.

Clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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Apologies mate,,,my own qualities for analysing a prospectus is clearly lacking...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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911newbie said:
Snazza,
I was lusting after a T350 last weekend and wondering hwat it would be like to swap from my current 993. Sorry to hear you have been having difficulties with it, what sort of problems have you had come up ?

I thought they had more or less cracked the problems with the straight 6 ?
Cheers



Don't do it ! Keep the 993 !

I have a 996 right now and wish it was a 993. Next year (business allowing) I plan to buy a 993 and then send it to the Ninemeister to get enhanced.

I have a theory that by taking a well-used 993 and sending it to Ninemeister for an engine upgrade I could end up with an air cooled, 350hp monster which will be much more fun than a 996 ( latest GT3 excepted - but I can't afford one !) .

If I had a 993 i would'nt waste the cost of a change - I'd upgrade it instead.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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Dom "Vomitalic" always wondered what that peculiar green colour was called