Timewasters when selling Porsches
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Well answered Henry old chap, gave the bally cynics a bloody nose I`d say, Don`t know why everybody can`t buy new in the first place , saves a load of ag and you don`t have to meet any second hand car selling chappies wearing sheepskin coats smoking manakins muttering " on me muvers eye sight , they all do that " or " strike me dead if I ain`t just come back from St Tropez in it wivout using no oil" .......... "test drive ???????? I`ve lent me trade plates to me dad" was the one that always impressed me.
Fork out the lucre , buy new , then trade for a new one every two years. .........simple, don`t have to meet any "morons " trying to buy your P a J at a price not worthy of your estimation .
I`m completely neutral here but after reading all the posts on this thread I`d have no hesitation going to Henrys place if I wanted a used Porsche, can`t see the problem, guys being straightforward and honest as far as I can see.
In the past when I bought a used car of any brand I `d always try to knock some money off the price, just like the potential buyer did when I was selling.
When you operate a retail business , no matter what the commodity, the profit is in the price you pay as a buyer, pay too much for the item and you can`t make a profit.
T T F N.
Fork out the lucre , buy new , then trade for a new one every two years. .........simple, don`t have to meet any "morons " trying to buy your P a J at a price not worthy of your estimation .
I`m completely neutral here but after reading all the posts on this thread I`d have no hesitation going to Henrys place if I wanted a used Porsche, can`t see the problem, guys being straightforward and honest as far as I can see.
In the past when I bought a used car of any brand I `d always try to knock some money off the price, just like the potential buyer did when I was selling.
When you operate a retail business , no matter what the commodity, the profit is in the price you pay as a buyer, pay too much for the item and you can`t make a profit.
T T F N.
mikial said:
Well answered Henry old chap, gave the bally cynics a bloody nose I`d say, Don`t know why everybody can`t buy new in the first place , saves a load of ag and you don`t have to meet any second hand car selling chappies wearing sheepskin coats smoking manakins muttering " on me muvers eye sight , they all do that " or " strike me dead if I ain`t just come back from St Tropez in it wivout using no oil" .......... "test drive ???????? I`ve lent me trade plates to me dad" was the one that always impressed me.
Fork out the lucre , buy new , then trade for a new one every two years. .........simple, don`t have to meet any "morons " trying to buy your P a J at a price not worthy of your estimation .
I`m completely neutral here but after reading all the posts on this thread I`d have no hesitation going to Henrys place if I wanted a used Porsche, can`t see the problem, guys being straightforward and honest as far as I can see.
In the past when I bought a used car of any brand I `d always try to knock some money off the price, just like the potential buyer did when I was selling.
When you operate a retail business , no matter what the commodity, the profit is in the price you pay as a buyer, pay too much for the item and you can`t make a profit.
T T F N.
Here endth the lesson!
mustard said:
Well answered Henry old chap, gave the bally cynics a bloody nose I`d say, Don`t know why everybody can`t buy new in the first place , saves a load of ag and you don`t have to meet any second hand car selling chappies wearing sheepskin coats smoking manakins muttering " on me muvers eye sight , they all do that " or " strike me dead if I ain`t just come back from St Tropez in it wivout using no oil" .......... "test drive ???????? I`ve lent me trade plates to me dad" was the one that always impressed me.
Fork out the lucre , buy new , then trade for a new one every two years. .........simple, don`t have to meet any "morons " trying to buy your P a J at a price not worthy of your estimation .
I`m completely neutral here but after reading all the posts on this thread I`d have no hesitation going to Henrys place if I wanted a used Porsche, can`t see the problem, guys being straightforward and honest as far as I can see.
In the past when I bought a used car of any brand I `d always try to knock some money off the price, just like the potential buyer did when I was selling.
When you operate a retail business , no matter what the commodity, the profit is in the price you pay as a buyer, pay too much for the item and you can`t make a profit.
T T F N.
Here endth the lesson!
That is the way it is. Henry is making a pile offering a service people want. Nowt wrong with that.
Does'nt matter what the product is - the wholesale/ retail spread is what makes the western world work !
Porsches are wonderful machines - but they are still commodities, where the market dictates the price.
What people will pay, is what they are worth.
My 996 C4 is to be sold in the new year - expect to get the going rate for it, whatever it may be. Sentiment is not to be applied. Its a car, a piece of metal, and there are thousands of them.
Mind you, apply the same mindset when buying and you'll be fine.
And regarding the 996 C4 Tip that started off the thread. Its a nice car, and no doubt it will make someone happy. Its still overpriced though by 3 or 4 k IMO ( with the greatest respect, not knocking the owner - good on him if he gets the price he wants).
henry-F said:
Think I may have solved the connection termination issue - this IT stuff is a piece of p*ss, how you people can charge the money you do amazes me, it`s all available free on the web.
Cheeky bastard - next time you want a web server designing, or an e-mail system implementing from the ground up, you do it on your own.
I wish you well.
In the meantime, stick to what you (clearly) are successful at, and leave us techies to continue to charge our exorbitant rates. After all, who's going to come and buy your cars eh, Mr Firman?
We feed you. Don't bite the hand.
Thank you,
Greg
IT Consultant
>> Edited by GregE240 on Tuesday 16th December 09:01
toppstuff said:
mikial said:
When you operate a retail business , no matter what the commodity, the profit is in the price you pay as a buyer, pay too much for the item and you can`t make a profit.
Here endth the lesson!
That is the way it is. Henry is making a pile offering a service people want. Nowt wrong with that.
Does'nt matter what the product is - the wholesale/ retail spread is what makes the western world work !
Porsches are wonderful machines - but they are still commodities, where the market dictates the price.
What people will pay, is what they are worth.
My 996 C4 is to be sold in the new year - expect to get the going rate for it, whatever it may be. Sentiment is not to be applied. Its a car, a piece of metal, and there are thousands of them.
Mind you, apply the same mindset when buying and you'll be fine.
Er, thanks for the lesson guys, you've really moved the debate along
. I think we all realise how dealers make profits and I'm not attacking profit making anyway.
I'm sure Henry is paying these people.
Anyway, what I do object to is a dealer's web site that tells you if your engine blows up the minute you leave the premises, you don't have any come back, which is patently not true.
Now that endth the lesson !
What Henry has said sounds fair enough to me.
GregE - put some smilies in otherwise it could be taken as a nasty post.
There is too much legislation around and not enough people taking responsibility for thir own actions. If you buy a car a 'bug' price then you know what you are getting, if you want the extra security buy at a service/retail price. Good on you for giving the choice.
GregE - put some smilies in
otherwise it could be taken as a nasty post. There is too much legislation around and not enough people taking responsibility for thir own actions. If you buy a car a 'bug' price then you know what you are getting, if you want the extra security buy at a service/retail price. Good on you for giving the choice.
hermanthegerman said:
Anyway, what I do object to is a dealer's web site that tells you if your engine blows up the minute you leave the premises, you don't have any come back, which is patently not true.
But surely that's a million times better for the customer than a trader that says "buy with complete confidence" and then wriggles out of problems on legal technicalities.
Can't see a problem with this at all.
Phil.
philly said:
Anyway, what I do object to is a dealer's web site that tells you if your engine blows up the minute you leave the premises, you don't have any come back, which is patently not true.
But surely that's a million times better for the customer than a trader that says "buy with complete confidence" and then wriggles out of problems on legal technicalities.
Can't see a problem with this at all.
Phil.
Good job you're not a lawyer then, or worse, somebody who buys a car then has his engine blow up on him on the way home.
Would you have a problem with it then ?
superlightr said:
GregE - put some smilies in
Wasn't intended to be nasty. I'm sure our 'Enery is thicker skinned than that.
I was pointing out how the land lies. I get a bit uncomfortable when people take a cheap swipe at the sort of work I am paid to do. Believe me, if there was no requirement for the work in which I'm engaged, I'd be flipping burgers.
It`s no good posting cheques in this part of the Carribean. We tend to wait until we call into the Cayman or St Thomas as they are much better served postal-wise.
Cheer up Greg - I won`t tell if you don`t. What you can`t do with front page express isn`t worth doing !!
Seriously though I know my limitations - and they aren`t that high when it comes to that funny cream coloured box in the corner of the room. That`s why I listen very carefully to the good people at PC world and am blessed with some rather handy customers when things go tits up.
That said I did install a new floppy drive in one of the machines the other day, all on my own with no safety net. Bet you`re impressed !!
Or maybe not. I`ll get my coat........
Henry
Cheer up Greg - I won`t tell if you don`t. What you can`t do with front page express isn`t worth doing !!
Seriously though I know my limitations - and they aren`t that high when it comes to that funny cream coloured box in the corner of the room. That`s why I listen very carefully to the good people at PC world and am blessed with some rather handy customers when things go tits up.
That said I did install a new floppy drive in one of the machines the other day, all on my own with no safety net. Bet you`re impressed !!
Or maybe not. I`ll get my coat........
Henry
rodsmith said:
As for kamal_raza one golden rule... he whom has the gold makes the rules!
Are you guys just naive....
You all have mobile phones and PAY TOO MUCH for calls (thats offical)..yet you have a choice
You all paid too much for new cars from UK but not everyone went to EU to get cheaper ones
Some people will happily wonder into their local OPC and pay £40,995 for my car (some £5k premium). They will get exactly the same car + an £800 warranty-the car doesnt require any reconditioning.
The issue with my car is not price...I bet if I reduced it to £33k that even then nobody but a trader would buy it...the reason being that people have a misguided sense of reality about buying from private sellers...
The other big issue in my mind is finance...Providers of finance will not provide money to privately sourced cars becasue they are liable for the entire length of a contract for any major problem arising with the car.
Anyway...here is a great story..my wife and I went out for dinner last night...on returning to the car and driving off I noticed some writing on the windscreen in black eye-liner...it was carefully written inversley and read "call me on 07956 XXXXXXX"
NOW MY WIFE WANTS ME TO SELL THE CAR AT ANY PRICE
Somehow I am not so bothered to selling the car
>> Edited by kamal996 on Tuesday 16th December 19:42
kamal996 said:
Anyway...here is a great story..my wife and I went out for dinner last night...on returning to the car and driving off I noticed some writing on the windscreen in black eye-liner...it was carefully written inversley and read "call me on 07956 XXXXXXX"
Hmm lets think 996 cab, autobox, Savanah interior...... I'm thinking with that spec the voice at the end of the phone may well be male & is quite into showtunes
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