Cayman S - Tuning advice

Cayman S - Tuning advice

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DS240

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4,683 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Hi,

I have a 2006 Cayman S, i bought it with the standard non-pasm suspension. Running on 18's.

Rather than buying a new car I'm thinking of doing a few little mods on my car instead and was looking for a bit of advice.

I pretty much just do road driving. The car generally only gets occassional use and the odd 2-3k mile driving holiday. So no track weapon is required.

I'm not looking a spending a fortune, but 3-4k possibly.




This is what i'm thinking of;

Sports exhaust - Full miltek system has caught my eye.

Re map - Worried about differing from standard porsche ecu. Good places to get work done?

Suspension - New springs to lower car, but don't want impractical low and to ruin ride. (Not sure what springs(which company) would be good to lower and retain some ride comfort)

19's - Was going to put on 19's new carrera style, love how they look. With lowering don't want to wreck ride further. Step too far?




It would be good to here your views and any recommendations....... and no 'buy a carrera instead' please, (although tempted) :-)

Thanks

Edited by DS240 on Wednesday 21st October 10:59

Two Stallions

1,329 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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A remap on a NA engine is not going to make a lot of difference. Capristo do a nice exhaust for the Cayman, check it out here.

A bit of advanced driver training is a very worthwhile mod and can be utilised on any future vehicle!

dom9

8,092 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Plenty of people on here claiming around 340bhp from the 3.4 engine with the IPD plenum, full exhaust and throttle body mods... Including a re-map, I have heard good things about Softronic, but they never respond to my queries frown

Search for posts by MrD, he brings up Cayman tuning regularly.

Beware of larger wheels as well...

CraigW

12,248 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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have you seen the article in this months evo on the parr motorsport turbo conversion ?>

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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how does 340BHp and 0-100mph in the 10's sound for less than you want to spend ;-).

It's tried and tested with over 200 cars all producing the goods.

I set out to test every part of my car as the claims were amazing.

I was shocked the claims are correct, and now my car is amazing ;-).

fit a GT3 Throttle body with plenum, add a good exhaust which deletes 2 of the 4 cats, and get a Softronic map on the car which ties it all in.
Scott at Softronic can sell you all the parts but it is not on his web site.

My stock car was 240BHp at the wheels ended up 283BHp at the wheels, thats about 340BHp at the flywheel.
Also no dip at 3.5k revs which is on the standard engine

Alass no UK tuner will resell it as there is no money in it for them, they would rather sell you something twice the price which gives 1/2 the results and makes them money. So it's a do it your self tune but is very very easy, or I can put you in touch with a Cayman fanatic who will fit it all for you free. if you buy the parts.

about 15+ UK cars have been done now with 100's accross the pond, every one a happy customer, now that's a rare thing.

PM me if you want more details.

here is my thread and all the doubters on it lol
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 21st October 12:54

mayes911

5,219 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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mr demon does the gt3 throttle body and air intake mods improve the overall running of engine as i read somewhere this is how porsche restricted breathing of car hence flatspot and slower pick so not to get to close to 997

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I would guess so

here is the part i fitted which is two parts bolted together

The car is just so free now and the dyno plots so smooth.

Another user will be along in a min who did a drag V a 911 and his car was faster, I think he was still waiting for his exhaust at the time lol.





Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 21st October 14:16

dom9

8,092 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Does that plenum fit the 996 3.4? Does anyone know?

I have always assumed not, but maybe that is wrong.

I guess the 3.4 is cable throttle, which may be part of the problem... But were the early GT3's drive by wire?

crashS2K

105 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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mrdemon said:
how does 340BHp and 0-100mph in the 10's sound for less than you want to spend ;-).

It's tried and tested with over 200 cars all producing the goods.

I set out to test every part of my car as the claims were amazing.

I was shocked the claims are correct, and now my car is amazing ;-).

fit a GT3 Throttle body with plenum, add a good exhaust which deletes 2 of the 4 cats, and get a Softronic map on the car which ties it all in.
Scott at Softronic can sell you all the parts but it is not on his web site.

My stock car was 240BHp at the wheels ended up 283BHp at the wheels, thats about 340BHp at the flywheel.
Also no dip at 3.5k revs which is on the standard engine

Alass no UK tuner will resell it as there is no money in it for them, they would rather sell you something twice the price which gives 1/2 the results and makes them money. So it's a do it your self tune but is very very easy, or I can put you in touch with a Cayman fanatic who will fit it all for you free. if you buy the parts.

about 15+ UK cars have been done now with 100's accross the pond, every one a happy customer, now that's a rare thing.

PM me if you want more details.

here is my thread and all the doubters on it lol
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 21st October 12:54
Agree with all of the above. I have Miltek exhaust (removes 2 of the cats), Softronic GT3 plenum and Softronic remap. Transforms the car and power curve is extremely smooth and linear with no flatspots.

Lots of info on caymanclub.net and the thread from my install:

http://www.planet-9.com/united-kindom-ireland-regi...

DS240

Original Poster:

4,683 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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MrDemon, your Cayman looks great.

Those tuning BBQs would certainly interest me that i've read on the other forums to see what the tuned cars are like.

However I live in Jersey, Channel Islands, so bringing myself and car over is an expensive process.

The work on the air intakes is interesting and seems fairly simple.

Anyone had a quife diff fitted?

Does any of these remaps have any adverse affects on the cars long term?

Anyone with these mods live around london? Over for two days next week in London, free during the day only though.




Heres mine;



Edited by DS240 on Wednesday 21st October 16:34

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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no adverse affects as Scott maps the Porsche way and all with in set pramaters , not a crap map where fuel is just thrown at it.

If anything the cars runs better with more Mpg so it may be kinder to the engine ;-0

as for a diff, I don't need one and I drive quite fast, if I drove the same in the wet then A diff would be handy,
But the way my car is set up I don't keep spinning an inside wheel.

good tyres and a good geo has put stop to that.

A diff can make your car push on some times.

So only you know if your spinning you inside wheel all the time and its pi55ing you off.

And as you not going to be a track we I would spend your money elsewhere.

db01

51 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Mrdemon, what suspension setup do you have?

98C4S

2,934 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I too have done all the mods listed above. Very very happy, the urgency above 4000rpm is so much more pronounced, and free-er. It also sounds better too, more throaty. Bang for buck, cant beat it.

best thing for me is that it drives how a factory car would drive, no dodgy idling, completely smooth in delivery.

One thing I would say is that you should also upgrade the air/oil seperator hose to a stronger one if you go ahead with the plenum/softronic remap

I have 19s - H&R springs and spacers, no PASM - and I like the ride, handles tremendously

Horses for courses and all.

Heres a pic (seeing as we are all showing them)






98C4S

2,934 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I live in London and can be free whenever next week - give me a shout

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I have 18"

tried 19"
did not like it, but thats coming from a Tuned Exige so I wanted it to handle on par with that.

I have not touched the sus I think PASM with 18" is the best combo.

it's like 2 cars in one, nice when PASM off but full sports mode and PASM on when I feel like I want to push on.

Not a fan of H&R spings it's hard to set up the car right and also you lose the rake of the car back to front, again this does not help the handling.

I just have a good Geo set up for a good driver on road( ie less understeer than factory), many go straight in and have track geo and max camber which is crap on the road, you want as much tyre on the road as possable for best grip. You also need to be able to take full advantage of the camber you already have.(many don't and still want more lol)

I would fit H&R ARB if I was keeping the car, but its for sale now.
and if the car was not a PASM car I would fit KW3 Shocks.

But I realy like PASM even though many don't, maybe its because every test car is on 19" rims.

If you do want to lower it get the Ebach springs as it seems you can get a better geo with these over H&R

over all Its been a great car which is why I have kept it two years.
I normally try a new car every year, but this time in year 2 I just tuned it.

Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 21st October 18:35

baz1985

3,598 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I find wet weather traction absolutely 5h!te with stock power, but I'm a poor driver.

coanda

2,644 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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mrdemon said:
here is my thread and all the doubters on it lol
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 21st October 12:54
Lovely car - is that a GT3 front bumper or a 3rd party piece?

As an aside - you have the 'exclusive' front splitters but not the rear wing? I thought that would upset the aero balance?

db01

51 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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So has anyone had any issues with their milltek cat back? There are many reports (on planet porsche) of it rubbing the arb on lowered cars and also of welds failing and bits coming loose in the muffler. The attraction of the milltek is that it does not drone or resonate, a shame it has some bad press (which is putting me off buying one).

Does the Remus drone? I think it is louder than a milltek?

98C4S

2,934 posts

191 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Remus does drone, but its not intrusive, you just assume its part of the exhuast note.

You really need to hear it before you decide you like the drone or not, I like it, its a very meaty noise. You can easily drive around it if you need.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I have a bigger rear spoiler as well you cannot see it.
Bumper is standard with GT3 vent and a new splitter.

the car is very stable at high speed.

As for Miltek , I am not a fan and would never buy one,

Yes the Remus is louder than a miltek in a good way.

imho the best 4 exhausts are, in no order. Remus being the best value, very happy with mine.

Remus
Borla
AWE
FabSpeed