Tiptronic, would you , or wouldn't you?
Discussion
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JamieBeeston said:
For me, its got nothing to do with the speed of gear change, i couldnt give a monkies if its 100x quicker than I can change..
its ALL to do with the control..
...its about extracting every last ounce of pleasure from my motorvehicle..
Or at least, thats what owning a porsche used to be about..
its just a 'shame' they make such great every day cars...
...'pleasure' is very subjective. Who are you to say that a tip owner doesn't 'enjoy' their car every little bit as much as you do?
You need to grow up and try to be less arrogant - you seem to feel that tip owners somehow don't deserve to own a Porsche. Humility and tolerance are wonderful attributes. You should try them sometimes.
>> Edited by argonaut on Tuesday 16th March 23:12
argonaut said:
You need to grow up and try to be less arrogant - you seem to feel that tip owners somehow don't deserve to own a Porsche. Humility and tolerance are wonderful attributes. You should try
them sometimes.
Yes Dear..
As I have previous mentioned, I drive a Tip..
you need to calm down, and not take it so personally..
As I already intimated, tip Porsche is a wonderful car, its a testament to Porsches engineering that they can turn a raw sports car, into a capable daily commuter, whilst retaining the majority of its racing pedigree.
So you don't understand, my point was simple.
The question posed was which would you choose, Manual or Tip, I answered.
Your opinion may well be different to mine, or it may be the same, and your just choosing to interpret it differently, regardless.. my OPINION is, the Tip, whilst a wonderful addition to the Porsche Range, ISN'T ALL the sports car that the manual is.
it might be 95% of the car, with the added bonus of being an absolute pleasure for commutes,, BUT, it ISN'T a level peg for those seeking the Raw feeling of the Porsche of old.
I considered, given the question was asked, that maybe the person was after some opinions from owners, So, I gave my opinion.
I am NOT trying to decide which is the BEST Porsche, as obviously that's subjective, all I am doing is saying which I would choose, and WHY.
Enjoy
will_t said:
Will
Must say will, your ever so mellow
Must be all that Staffs Air
Been down the Chase of recent ?
Some nice nice roads around there, Staffs --> A50 was a very nice run, and also the triangle around the uni, round the back of the crem... and then left at the lights... all nice...
I do miss Staffs..
got some lovely pix of the uni + halls tho
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Yes Dear..
As I have previous mentioned, I drive a Tip..
you need to calm down, and not take it so personally..
As I already intimated, tip Porsche is a wonderful car, its a testament to Porsches engineering that they can turn a raw sports car, into a capable daily commuter, whilst retaining the majority of its racing pedigree.
So you don't understand, my point was simple.
The question posed was which would you choose, Manual or Tip, I answered.
Your opinion may well be different to mine, or it may be the same, and your just choosing to interpret it differently, regardless.. my OPINION is, the Tip, whilst a wonderful addition to the Porsche Range, ISN'T ALL the sports car that the manual is.
it might be 95% of the car, with the added bonus of being an absolute pleasure for commutes,, BUT, it ISN'T a level peg for those seeking the Raw feeling of the Porsche of old.
I considered, given the question was asked, that maybe the person was after some opinions from owners, So, I gave my opinion.
I am NOT trying to decide which is the BEST Porsche, as obviously that's subjective, all I am doing is saying which I would choose, and WHY.
Enjoy[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.
argonaut said:
You need to grow up and try to be less arrogant - you seem to feel that tip owners somehow don't deserve to own a Porsche. Humility and tolerance are wonderful attributes. You should try
them sometimes.
Yes Dear..
As I have previous mentioned, I drive a Tip..
you need to calm down, and not take it so personally..
As I already intimated, tip Porsche is a wonderful car, its a testament to Porsches engineering that they can turn a raw sports car, into a capable daily commuter, whilst retaining the majority of its racing pedigree.
So you don't understand, my point was simple.
The question posed was which would you choose, Manual or Tip, I answered.
Your opinion may well be different to mine, or it may be the same, and your just choosing to interpret it differently, regardless.. my OPINION is, the Tip, whilst a wonderful addition to the Porsche Range, ISN'T ALL the sports car that the manual is.
it might be 95% of the car, with the added bonus of being an absolute pleasure for commutes,, BUT, it ISN'T a level peg for those seeking the Raw feeling of the Porsche of old.
I considered, given the question was asked, that maybe the person was after some opinions from owners, So, I gave my opinion.
I am NOT trying to decide which is the BEST Porsche, as obviously that's subjective, all I am doing is saying which I would choose, and WHY.
Enjoy
[/quote] My thoughts exactly.
I have mellowed, been away from Glasgow too long.
The roads in Shropshire are better, less "presence" if you know what I mean.
As I said before I'm new to Porsche (ownership) and PH but have enjoyed this "thread". Nice to hear opinions from piston heads who can still be
passionate about driving 
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Sorry to go off topic folks but I'm a novice !
Will
The roads in Shropshire are better, less "presence" if you know what I mean.
As I said before I'm new to Porsche (ownership) and PH but have enjoyed this "thread". Nice to hear opinions from piston heads who can still be
passionate about driving . Sorry to go off topic folks but I'm a novice !
Will
argonaut said:
...'pleasure' is very subjective. Who are you to say that a tip owner doesn't 'enjoy' their car every little bit as much as you do?
You need to grow up and try to be less arrogant - you seem to feel that tip owners somehow don't deserve to own a Porsche. Humility and tolerance are wonderful attributes. You should try them sometimes.
and this is from the man who said this on Friday:
Argonaut said:
This question is mainly for 911 owners, but I don't mind poor people who owns those other cars (can't recall the names just now - 948 turbo??) replying too.
who's the arrogant one?
Paul
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Will Had a boxster S manual 6spd
Now have a Boxster S tip 5 spd
Both very nice cars.
Being very critical, diving hard the car really misses the extra ratio, the gearing of the Tip is a bit too wide changing at the red line the revs fall a bit too far down the power band, with the manual's ratios it was easy to kep the car boiling along above 4500 rpm.
The box is quite lazy needs a good poke to get it to change down or kickdown, and changes up early even with fairly firm throttle pressure. It slurs worse than Oliver Reed.
However the manual is a pain for my wife to drive in high heels so if it's a choice between sexy footwear with the tip or 6 sp manual, the tip wins everytime
Now have a Boxster S tip 5 spd
Both very nice cars.
Being very critical, diving hard the car really misses the extra ratio, the gearing of the Tip is a bit too wide changing at the red line the revs fall a bit too far down the power band, with the manual's ratios it was easy to kep the car boiling along above 4500 rpm.
The box is quite lazy needs a good poke to get it to change down or kickdown, and changes up early even with fairly firm throttle pressure. It slurs worse than Oliver Reed.
However the manual is a pain for my wife to drive in high heels so if it's a choice between sexy footwear with the tip or 6 sp manual, the tip wins everytime
WILL_T said:
So we now select the specification of our Porsche on what someone else may buy !
If you can afford to run a Porsche have the one YOU want !
Will
At the end of the day, I totally agree,
if tiptronic floats your boat, then so be it, I specifically chose Tiptronic on my present car...
A Porsche is a wonderful piece of kit, and we should and will all enjoy owning them.
(eek, this mellowness is catching)
I was glad I owned mine, and look forward to my next porsche, be it the GT3 in jan, or a Turbo at some point..
I wouldnt say it changed my world, but I wouldnt take the time back either..
Its just another experince to draw upon
to you all, Tiptronic or Manual.I chose the Tip. The manual is more of a 'drivers' option, but at the end of the day, for me, I just can't face the manual in traffic - it would take the enjoyment out of 90% of the driving.
Someone said the Tip adds a second to the 0-60. Yes and no. The primary reason is becuase the Manual time is achieved by short shifting the geaarbox. Do that a few times and you will be back at the OPC getting a new box fitted.
Fast (but not short) shifting a manual box compared with a tip is likely to yield very similar times.
I do agree the manual gives more control, but the Tip is a much better everyday option IMHO. I couldn't decide between the two, and went for the Tip. 90% if the time I am pleased with my decision, 10% not. I made the right decision for myself, otherwise with a manual this would be reversed!
Someone said the Tip adds a second to the 0-60. Yes and no. The primary reason is becuase the Manual time is achieved by short shifting the geaarbox. Do that a few times and you will be back at the OPC getting a new box fitted.
Fast (but not short) shifting a manual box compared with a tip is likely to yield very similar times.
I do agree the manual gives more control, but the Tip is a much better everyday option IMHO. I couldn't decide between the two, and went for the Tip. 90% if the time I am pleased with my decision, 10% not. I made the right decision for myself, otherwise with a manual this would be reversed!
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