New Porsche Cayenne Diesel
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Cobnapint said:
Ah, very good point. You've got us there.
Well, you’ve said you don’t care about off-road ability, but want something that is sharp to drive - so the logical conclusion is to buy a quick estate car which doesn’t have the compromises forced on it by having to look like a trendy SUV for no good reason.
NomduJour said:
Cheib said:
a RRS wouldn’t see which way a Cayenne went
... and a Cayenne wouldn't see which way an RS6 went. I'm over 6ft tall and like having my seat pushed relatively far back....with young kids sitting on booster seats they take up a load of room so interior space is important. Thought about an RS6 and nearly bought one but didn't because the interior passenger space isn't as good in our Cayenne. In our Cayenne I can sit where I want to and the kids don't complain about being cramped...that isn't the case in an RS6...otherwise I'd probably have one.
RS6 is a great car but not right for me.
NomduJour said:
Cobnapint said:
Ah, very good point. You've got us there.
Well, you’ve said you don’t care about off-road ability, but want something that is sharp to drive - so the logical conclusion is to buy a quick estate car which doesn’t have the compromises forced on it by having to look like a trendy SUV for no good reason.Lol.
Cheib said:
Depends how you define ride... RRS is definitely better at wafting and low speed bump absorption but Cayenne’s ride is perfectly acceptable. Cayenne’s ride comfort is 80% of a RRS I would say but the Cayenne is just a much nicer drive overall. And personally I don’t want too much waft when pushing on driving on country lanes....you want a car with good body control that doesn’t handle like a boat. I drive our Cayenne to the Alps twice a year when the roads start getting interesting it’s genuinely fun to drive it....a RRS wouldn’t see which way a Cayenne went.
If you define "better" as choppy and crashy at ridges and pot holes then yes the cayenne would be better but most people define "better" as in comfort and the RRS is in a different league! Imo and most road tests I have read.So when you are driving to the Alps with your family I very much doubt that you would be able to get out of sight of a similarly driven RRS dynamic but it all depends on how hard you want to push a heavy SUV with your young family onboard.
Granfondo said:
So when you are driving to the Alps with your family I very much doubt that you would be able to get out of sight of a similarly driven RRS dynamic but it all depends on how hard you want to push a heavy SUV with your young family onboard.
Perfectly aware of how to drive safely thanks....and you don’t need to drive recklessly to be able to appreciate the difference between how a Cayenne handles and how a RRS handles. Once you try driving more than 30mph on a road that isn’t arrow straight it’s pretty obvious which car is the more capable. Anyway don’t take my word for it..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gq_-ErTQA
NomduJour said:
Discovery? They're very different cars, hardly alternatives.
RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...
Yes but for me an estate conjours up images of Chevy Chase in national Lampoons Vacation. It would be the final nail in the coffin of my self deluded state of perpetual youth.RRS has a broader range of abilities than a Cayenne - strongly suspect 99% of Cayenne customers would be better off in a 5 Series estate given how they're used. But, SUVs are trendy...
Edited by NomduJour on Friday 2nd March 12:35
I just about kept the delusion going with a 4 door coupe. I suspect I may be pushing it with an SUV. But I’m certain if I stepped out of my front door to see an estate on the drive I’d feel 20 years older in an instant
It’s ultimately a stupid irrational choice to spend so much money on a rapidly depreciating asset. If I were being sensible I’d drive a banger MPV. If you are fortunate enough to have the means, sometimes it’s better to live happy yet deliberately oblivious of your own stupidity
Cheib said:
Granfondo said:
So when you are driving to the Alps with your family I very much doubt that you would be able to get out of sight of a similarly driven RRS dynamic but it all depends on how hard you want to push a heavy SUV with your young family onboard.
Perfectly aware of how to drive safely thanks....and you don’t need to drive recklessly to be able to appreciate the difference between how a Cayenne handles and how a RRS handles. Once you try driving more than 30mph on a road that isn’t arrow straight it’s pretty obvious which car is the more capable. Anyway don’t take my word for it..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gq_-ErTQA
As a daily driver the RRS ticks a lot of boxes.
Granfondo said:
Cheib said:
Granfondo said:
So when you are driving to the Alps with your family I very much doubt that you would be able to get out of sight of a similarly driven RRS dynamic but it all depends on how hard you want to push a heavy SUV with your young family onboard.
Perfectly aware of how to drive safely thanks....and you don’t need to drive recklessly to be able to appreciate the difference between how a Cayenne handles and how a RRS handles. Once you try driving more than 30mph on a road that isn’t arrow straight it’s pretty obvious which car is the more capable. Anyway don’t take my word for it..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gq_-ErTQA
As a daily driver the RRS ticks a lot of boxes.
Cayenne the one to have in the real world, where you can exceed 30 mph, road have corners, and reliability matters.
Helicopter123 said:
But you can't drive a RRS sporty daily, as its going to spend a fair bit of its life back at the dealers, sorry.
Cayenne the one to have in the real world, where you can exceed 30 mph, road have corners, and reliability matters.
How many RRSs have you owned and what have been the problems you have experienced or is it internet hyperbole?Cayenne the one to have in the real world, where you can exceed 30 mph, road have corners, and reliability matters.
Have you ever driven a RRS in dynamic mode if yes you must be a very poor driver if you can't exceed 30mph!
Cobnapint said:
Granfondo said:
As a daily driver the RRS ticks a lot of boxes.
And the Cayenne doesn't....?It's just all the b
ks by Porsche fanboys that the ride is better in a cayenne and you can't use it as a daily because it's back at the dealership and it can't go round corners over 30mph but no one mentions the elephant in the room that the cayenne is a gargoyle of a car which has become slightly less grotesque over time but still a pig! (Pun intended)Granfondo said:
Helicopter123 said:
But you can't drive a RRS sporty daily, as its going to spend a fair bit of its life back at the dealers, sorry.
Cayenne the one to have in the real world, where you can exceed 30 mph, road have corners, and reliability matters.
How many RRSs have you owned and what have been the problems you have experienced or is it internet hyperbole?Cayenne the one to have in the real world, where you can exceed 30 mph, road have corners, and reliability matters.
Have you ever driven a RRS in dynamic mode if yes you must be a very poor driver if you can't exceed 30mph!
I haven't owned but a neighbour has and its been a nightmare for reliability. I hear other tales of woe from other owners too.
I hear nothing but praise for the Cayenne, and neither of ours have missed a beat in 70k miles over 5 years.
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