New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

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catfood12

1,418 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th September 2017
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sajafzal said:
Thanks much appreciated

Saj
Roughly what's the cost of a suitably specced new Cayenne these days ? I had a new Panamera loaner 4.0 diesel the other week. Great car, PDK is mega on such a big car, but will not be offered on the Cayenne it seems... Mega but £115K ! That's bonkers money.... Still, just accepted the invite to the Panamera estate launch in a couple of weeks.

sajafzal

392 posts

153 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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catfood12 said:
Roughly what's the cost of a suitably specced new Cayenne these days ? I had a new Panamera loaner 4.0 diesel the other week. Great car, PDK is mega on such a big car, but will not be offered on the Cayenne it seems... Mega but £115K ! That's bonkers money.... Still, just accepted the invite to the Panamera estate launch in a couple of weeks.
At mo only 2 options both petrol, S Variant with a half decent spec about 80-85K, high spec 90-100K, bonkers spec 100K +

Saj

CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Had my S Diesel in Sheffield OPC today after noticing the 'misfire'. New transfer box on it's way. 12 hour job apparently. Warranty to the rescue!

catfood12 said:
So, long time now, no posting in this thread. I've been enjoying my 2013 Diesel S, that has continued to be a joy. Until a couple of weeks ago. I started to get what felt like a misfire under load. Previous to this the V8 was super silky smooth and torquey. Misfire on a diesel ?!?! Yep, only under load, and only when warm. Gentle acceleration from about 20MPH in 3rd, or WOT from about 60MPH, felt just like a dodgy plug lead on a petrol. No black smoke, no warning lights. A chum got in the car and said it felt as if there was a tooth missing on the diff or planetary gears, not the motor.

Gradually got worse, booked into OPC. When out for test drive with the technician, he said 'it's the transfer box'. Not uncommon, needs new box. Apparently there's an electronic clutch that distributes the power between front and rear, that begins to slip, causes ECU confusion, and it feels like a misfire. Not sure that the full explanation, as there's no where the torque can escape to surely, as I understand it's a regular diff in the middle with planetary gears but additional electronic LSD type action. Said they've done several diesel V6s, no V8s yet. Sometimes after just 20K miles (mines just at 60K). There's now a modified transfer box. They don't fix it, just swap the box out for new.

They did lend me quite a funky Golf GTD DSG, that handles like a taut go kart. Great thing to tool around in for a couple of days...

chazd

183 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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catfood12 said:
Roughly what's the cost of a suitably specced new Cayenne these days ? I had a new Panamera loaner 4.0 diesel the other week. Great car, PDK is mega on such a big car, but will not be offered on the Cayenne it seems... Mega but £115K ! That's bonkers money.... Still, just accepted the invite to the Panamera estate launch in a couple of weeks.
I have specced my diesel S with the following:

Rhodium silver metallic
Black extended leather interior
Sport design package with side skirts
Model designation painted black
Bi Xenon headlights in black
Tinted LED rear lights
Surround view with park assist
Panoramic roof
Heated windscreen
Black roof rails
Air intakes in gloss black
Extended black gloss exterior package
Air suspension with PASM
Sport chrono pack
Black sports tailpipes
21” sport classic wheels in black/silver
Lane departure with lane assist
Comfort lighting package
Adaptive sports seats (18 way)
Front and rear seat heating
Speed limit indicator
Adaptive cruise
Steering wheel heating
Burmester stereo
DAB radio

Plus all stock Plat edition options and is coming in at £85k...list is circa £92k


CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Has anyone experienced 'heavy' steering on their Cayenne? The steering on the courtesy car felt much lighter than mine. Mine has PSP so I'd have expected it to have been the other way round.

PS: They were both on the same wheels & tyres

chazd

183 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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CayenneWkr said:
Has anyone experienced 'heavy' steering on their Cayenne? The steering on the courtesy car felt much lighter than mine. Mine has PSP so I'd have expected it to have been the other way round.

PS: They were both on the same wheels & tyres
The test drive Diesel s had if anything slightly too light steering and would have preferred it a tad heavier. That bad PSP

dcv

2 posts

77 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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CayenneWkr said:
Had my S Diesel in Sheffield OPC today after noticing the 'misfire'. New transfer box on it's way. 12 hour job apparently. Warranty to the rescue!

catfood12 said:
So, long time now, no posting in this thread. I've been enjoying my 2013 Diesel S, that has continued to be a joy. Until a couple of weeks ago. I started to get what felt like a misfire under load. Previous to this the V8 was super silky smooth and torquey. Misfire on a diesel ?!?! Yep, only under load, and only when warm. Gentle acceleration from about 20MPH in 3rd, or WOT from about 60MPH, felt just like a dodgy plug lead on a petrol. No black smoke, no warning lights. A chum got in the car and said it felt as if there was a tooth missing on the diff or planetary gears, not the motor.

Gradually got worse, booked into OPC. When out for test drive with the technician, he said 'it's the transfer box'. Not uncommon, needs new box. Apparently there's an electronic clutch that distributes the power between front and rear, that begins to slip, causes ECU confusion, and it feels like a misfire. Not sure that the full explanation, as there's no where the torque can escape to surely, as I understand it's a regular diff in the middle with planetary gears but additional electronic LSD type action. Said they've done several diesel V6s, no V8s yet. Sometimes after just 20K miles (mines just at 60K). There's now a modified transfer box. They don't fix it, just swap the box out for new.

They did lend me quite a funky Golf GTD DSG, that handles like a taut go kart. Great thing to tool around in for a couple of days...
Does this issue feel like a kickback coming through chassis whist accelerating slowly at low speed, especially uphill, I have low mileage Diesel S which has developed this recently...it's almost like there's a tooth missing off a cog in the gearbox!

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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dcv said:
Does this issue feel like a kickback coming through chassis whist accelerating slowly at low speed, especially uphill, I have low mileage Diesel S which has developed this recently...it's almost like there's a tooth missing off a cog in the gearbox!
If you are out of warranty - change your transfer case oil......

Many, many owners reporting problem solved on this subject in the USA

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/cayenne-958/28...

It's a relatively easy DIY job. Just read through that thread and all will become clear.

You can go down to your local OPC, pay through the nose for a Porsche sticker for some OEM fluid (TF 0870) or go on Amazon, get somebody to bring what is probably exactly the same stuff (and highly recommended on other forums) to your front door for less - Ravenol TF-0870 (made in Germany).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ravenol-Transfer-0870-Oil...

The V6d and Hybrid Cayennes are not affected by this issue as they have a different type of TC.




dcv

2 posts

77 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Cobnapint said:
dcv said:
Does this issue feel like a kickback coming through chassis whist accelerating slowly at low speed, especially uphill, I have low mileage Diesel S which has developed this recently...it's almost like there's a tooth missing off a cog in the gearbox!
If you are out of warranty - change your transfer case oil......

Many, many owners reporting problem solved on this subject in the USA

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/cayenne-958/28...

It's a relatively easy DIY job. Just read through that thread and all will become clear.

You can go down to your local OPC, pay through the nose for a Porsche sticker for some OEM fluid (TF 0870) or go on Amazon, get somebody to bring what is probably exactly the same stuff (and highly recommended on other forums) to your front door for less - Ravenol TF-0870 (made in Germany).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ravenol-Transfer-0870-Oil...

The V6d and Hybrid Cayennes are not affected by this issue as they have a different type of TC.
still in warranty...just

CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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@DCV - The exact same symptoms as mine. When I took mine in, the technician confirmed it in minutes by disconnecting the front wheel drive with a switch/lever under the chassis.

On mine it deteriorated quite quickly.

breadvan

2,000 posts

168 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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I recently had the transfer box replaced on my 1 year old SD. Same symptoms, especially ‘skipping’ when pulling away on lock.

I think it’s caused by water ingress in a vent and I think it’s now modified.

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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yes

CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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I'm surprised there isn't a recall for this. Expensive fix though.

Francois de La Rochefoucauld

461 posts

78 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Thinking about a new Cayenne when I come to trade my RR in the new year. I'm not sure if I can stomach another three years of JLR dealers and service departments!

Is the Cayenne reliable and are the dealers generally good at servicing and fixing problems?

F

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
Thinking about a new Cayenne when I come to trade my RR in the new year. I'm not sure if I can stomach another three years of JLR dealers and service departments!

Is the Cayenne reliable and are the dealers generally good at servicing and fixing problems?

F
Fair play.

Yes and yes.

Any further questions....?

CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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My rear seats still rattle despite taking it back to the dealership twice. The transfer box just needed replacing and the steering doesn't feel right. Also, the cabin gets colder when I slow down. Not what I expected for the money. I've experienced better build quality on much cheaper cars I've owned.

Cheib

23,250 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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They're apparently about to re-start production of the 3.0d which haven't been made since July.

Asked OPC about Diesel in new Cayenne "it's the biggest selling car In he range , they will make one"

Fokker

3,460 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Cheib said:
They're apparently about to re-start production of the 3.0d which haven't been made since July.

Asked OPC about Diesel in new Cayenne "it's the biggest selling car In he range , they will make one"
That's good news. Expect the 4 litre v8 diesel too then.

Fokker

3,460 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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CayenneWkr said:
My rear seats still rattle despite taking it back to the dealership twice. The transfer box just needed replacing and the steering doesn't feel right. Also, the cabin gets colder when I slow down. Not what I expected for the money. I've experienced better build quality on much cheaper cars I've owned.
Re the cabin getting colder when slowing down Try turning the top middle dash vents off? You can do it via the circular digital dash display. I noticed this and that made all the difference.

CayenneWkr

92 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Tried that, no good.

Any tips for rattling seats very welcome. Sound of leather squeaking together, very annoying. Cayenne is unusual in that the back seats don't secure against the chassis at the top when in the upright position.