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I like the front aspect, it is a return to the 993 look which I like. The interior looks OK, although will probably be better in black. IMHO, Porsche have never done truly brilliant interiors.
The rear end looks less appealing though! It hints of the Chrysler Crossfire (another car I don't like the rear end of!). Perhaps it'll look better with a GT3-style bodykit.
>> Edited by Witchfinder on Tuesday 11th May 15:16
The rear end looks less appealing though! It hints of the Chrysler Crossfire (another car I don't like the rear end of!). Perhaps it'll look better with a GT3-style bodykit.
rico said:Marketing. "New model" sounds far more appealing than "facelift"
I just don't know why Porsche didn't just call this the 996 facelift... well i guess thats all it is.
>> Edited by Witchfinder on Tuesday 11th May 15:16
John - it looks nothing like a Beatle, but a lot like a Beetle - take a look again.
The bonnet looks 356-esque but is clearly influenced by the GT and makes the PU look like an extra chin. The interior is just plain ugly as sin. Didn't I see a similar interior in Snoop's Huggymobile in Starsky & Hutch recently?
Shoestring - great comment
The bonnet looks 356-esque but is clearly influenced by the GT and makes the PU look like an extra chin. The interior is just plain ugly as sin. Didn't I see a similar interior in Snoop's Huggymobile in Starsky & Hutch recently?
Shoestring - great comment
The interior is sh1te. What's with the clock in the middle of the dash where your road angel/origin is meant to go? Is that where the compass was on the Cayenne??? 
Jeez. It's a great interior for a truck, and I'm sure it is a league ahead of Tommy Telford's iron bridge for build quality, but even so... in a 911? It makes me want to rush out and buy a 996 before they stop making them.
Exterior looks better tho'. Shame they didn't go for a rear reflector strip like the C4S, as that is what got me onto Porsches aged 11 years (911 turbo with P-O-R-S-C-H-E script... yum yum!).
>> Edited by domster on Tuesday 11th May 16:13
Jeez. It's a great interior for a truck, and I'm sure it is a league ahead of Tommy Telford's iron bridge for build quality, but even so... in a 911? It makes me want to rush out and buy a 996 before they stop making them.
Exterior looks better tho'. Shame they didn't go for a rear reflector strip like the C4S, as that is what got me onto Porsches aged 11 years (911 turbo with P-O-R-S-C-H-E script... yum yum!).
>> Edited by domster on Tuesday 11th May 16:13
What about other models? Hopefully we will see more powerful, more heavy-spoilered variants of this new design(Turbo, GT2 & GT3 for example), because these extra additions might just hide some of the bodywork flaws. YES there are flaws. It looks(minus the Beetle lights) just like the old one. If you showed me a picture of this from behind I would think it was the outgoing model- there is a tiny difference.
Is everyone not getting a bit sick of this evoloution over revoloution thing?same old Porsche look(although it has sold well for umpteen years) is maybe looking a bit tired now. I put this down mainly to unimaginative designers and mass-produced Vectra-style demand for it. The reason the 911 is still popular is because it has had little competition and if it did come up against new rivals, with a smart, different look with performance to match, I think it would probably be shaking in it's 1970's boots.
Surely the 911 can be changed to look different(still Porsche)but sporty and just as good as it used to be. I say used to because it is just the same now as it was ten years ago(sorry, looks and interior taken into account, worse)
I really would have loved to have read this article to have found how the "new" Porsche was going to excite us and make us want one again.
Not to say that this won't sell-It's a 911, but if it had really tough opposition, I think that it would struggle. It's a shame that the MG SV hasn't took off to fight the 911(good comment before about the amv8).
Revoloution welcome in my opinion. Evoloution hasn't exactly been the best way forward for the new Golf has it? Maybe Porsche should learn from it's German counterpart...
Is everyone not getting a bit sick of this evoloution over revoloution thing?same old Porsche look(although it has sold well for umpteen years) is maybe looking a bit tired now. I put this down mainly to unimaginative designers and mass-produced Vectra-style demand for it. The reason the 911 is still popular is because it has had little competition and if it did come up against new rivals, with a smart, different look with performance to match, I think it would probably be shaking in it's 1970's boots.
Surely the 911 can be changed to look different(still Porsche)but sporty and just as good as it used to be. I say used to because it is just the same now as it was ten years ago(sorry, looks and interior taken into account, worse)
I really would have loved to have read this article to have found how the "new" Porsche was going to excite us and make us want one again.
Not to say that this won't sell-It's a 911, but if it had really tough opposition, I think that it would struggle. It's a shame that the MG SV hasn't took off to fight the 911(good comment before about the amv8).
Revoloution welcome in my opinion. Evoloution hasn't exactly been the best way forward for the new Golf has it? Maybe Porsche should learn from it's German counterpart...
A little bit like The Bionic Man (the character, not standard of acting, allow me to stress), the 911 simply gets more and more accomplished.
The most profitable car company in the world is still set up to produce fundamentally supreme super cars and one suffers self-denial to espouse otherwise.
That their repertoire has expanded is a corporate inevitability but should not lessen the sensation that is their general design savvy.
I love my anachronistic beetle and it has a certain place in the scheme of my fevered concept of the world's automotive terrain but a GT2 with a very bad attitude would undoubtedly be 'better' by several conceivable notions of the term.
Then again, the subjective elements of the decision making process are multifarious and it's all relative at the end of the day.
Must say, I've not really noticed this kind of heavy 'luddite effect' within the Ferrari ranks - would a 308 driver ever think to challenge the veracity of a 355 or 360's right to contemporary supremacy in the mid-mounted V8 stakes?
Von Reigelschlaus.
The most profitable car company in the world is still set up to produce fundamentally supreme super cars and one suffers self-denial to espouse otherwise.
That their repertoire has expanded is a corporate inevitability but should not lessen the sensation that is their general design savvy.
I love my anachronistic beetle and it has a certain place in the scheme of my fevered concept of the world's automotive terrain but a GT2 with a very bad attitude would undoubtedly be 'better' by several conceivable notions of the term.
Then again, the subjective elements of the decision making process are multifarious and it's all relative at the end of the day.
Must say, I've not really noticed this kind of heavy 'luddite effect' within the Ferrari ranks - would a 308 driver ever think to challenge the veracity of a 355 or 360's right to contemporary supremacy in the mid-mounted V8 stakes?
Von Reigelschlaus.
Interesting point about evolution, but its clearly the Porsche way of doing things. I've been working though Karl Ludvigson's 3 volume 'Excellence was Expected' and this is a constant theme. Sometimes its a strength, sometimes not.
Think about it, in over 50 years of existence Porsche has only ever marketed one 'clean sheet of paper' design; the 928.
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Think about it, in over 50 years of existence Porsche has only ever marketed one 'clean sheet of paper' design; the 928.
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IMHO the only time a 911 looks half decent is with side skirts/front splitter and a huge fin on the back.
the basic shape is about as flowing as michelle mcmassive after a pie eating contest!
the interior is,well to put it fairly mildly....z...zz.....sorry just fell asleep there for some reason!
porsche can make attractive cars(carrera gt)but i guess unless you start over with a brand new design,you'll always be polishing a turd with the 911!
the basic shape is about as flowing as michelle mcmassive after a pie eating contest!
the interior is,well to put it fairly mildly....z...zz.....sorry just fell asleep there for some reason!
porsche can make attractive cars(carrera gt)but i guess unless you start over with a brand new design,you'll always be polishing a turd with the 911!
Why won't Porsche admit when somethings dead. They tried to get rid of the bad idea of a rear engined car in the 80's but have continued to flog a dead horse since then. The original concept was rubbish and would have died then if it had not been in such a beautiful looking piece of machinery. All latest 911's handle and look like crap!
Ps central clock is the same as in my Ford ka! What style!
>> Edited by bob944 on Tuesday 11th May 20:52
Ps central clock is the same as in my Ford ka! What style!
>> Edited by bob944 on Tuesday 11th May 20:52
I must admit, I am glad they arent doing a GT3 in 997 guise, I will be rolling my order onto the 998, in an effort to get one of the very first off the line.
I would like to see some more Aerokitted Versions..
I want to see more like that.!
www.997tt.com/997/
for more Pix.
I would like to see some more Aerokitted Versions..
I want to see more like that.!
www.997tt.com/997/
for more Pix.
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