How Do I Manually Reset The Window Mechanism?
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Hi all
First post - be gentle please.
Arrive at Car in Morning and unlock. Window comes down half-way as expected.
Get in, shut door but window doesn't go back up.
It will go back both by either using the switch on my left hand side or by getting out of the car and locking it.
It's only when getting in and closing the door that it doesn't go back up. No "door open" warnings which I might expect if the window weren't going up.
So, how do I reset the windows please? I know its a case of doing something simple like lowering them and locking and unlocking the car or something similar but I can't remember.
Any/All help appreciated.
Oh, and when I lock up sometimes there are 4 beeps from the alarm system - any ideas what this means please?
Again, thanks
First post - be gentle please.
Arrive at Car in Morning and unlock. Window comes down half-way as expected.
Get in, shut door but window doesn't go back up.
It will go back both by either using the switch on my left hand side or by getting out of the car and locking it.
It's only when getting in and closing the door that it doesn't go back up. No "door open" warnings which I might expect if the window weren't going up.
So, how do I reset the windows please? I know its a case of doing something simple like lowering them and locking and unlocking the car or something similar but I can't remember.
Any/All help appreciated.
Oh, and when I lock up sometimes there are 4 beeps from the alarm system - any ideas what this means please?
Again, thanks
OK, sounds like the micro-switch behind the "beauty-cover" (S/Steel) over the door latch is not 'making'.
Therefore, unscrew the 3 off self tappers that hold the s/steel cover onto the B post. This will reveal the latch/lock mechanism. Above it, you'll notice the micro-switch with a stainless actuating arm into the actual lock.
The arm can sometimes dislodge from its pivot points or, the arm needs a tweak with some snipe nose pliers to make sure the switch 'makes' when the door is closed.
You can replicate a closed door by pushing a screwdriver into the latch causing it to roll into the closed position. At this point check to see the small button on the micro-switch is being pushed by the actuating arm. This is where you might use the long nose pliers!
If this does not work, then you need to lift the alcantara panel inside the car to expose the B post wiring. Trace the micro-switch wires and a simple bridge across the loom multiplug will determine if the switch is fubar'd.
Nick
Therefore, unscrew the 3 off self tappers that hold the s/steel cover onto the B post. This will reveal the latch/lock mechanism. Above it, you'll notice the micro-switch with a stainless actuating arm into the actual lock.
The arm can sometimes dislodge from its pivot points or, the arm needs a tweak with some snipe nose pliers to make sure the switch 'makes' when the door is closed.
You can replicate a closed door by pushing a screwdriver into the latch causing it to roll into the closed position. At this point check to see the small button on the micro-switch is being pushed by the actuating arm. This is where you might use the long nose pliers!
If this does not work, then you need to lift the alcantara panel inside the car to expose the B post wiring. Trace the micro-switch wires and a simple bridge across the loom multiplug will determine if the switch is fubar'd.
Nick
Yes, your window not closing problem does sound like the N/S microswitch not detecting when the door is closed so the ECU doesn't know to close the window.
You are correct that locking the car with the window down will cause the window to close and reset the position detector.
My car also generates 4 beeps when locking the car within a few seconds of turning the engine off. If I wait for ~20 seconds no beeps. Think it's one of 'they all do that sir' feature of Mk1 Tuscans, not sure if there is a fix.
You are correct that locking the car with the window down will cause the window to close and reset the position detector.
My car also generates 4 beeps when locking the car within a few seconds of turning the engine off. If I wait for ~20 seconds no beeps. Think it's one of 'they all do that sir' feature of Mk1 Tuscans, not sure if there is a fix.
I've just had the same problem with my Mk2, so here's a few points that were made to me and helped fix the issue :-
The Encoder is attached to the window drive motor, with a small machine screw. To get to it you have to remove all the nicely glued on rubber shrouding that protects the motor. The window needs to be up in order to be able to reach this. And the printed circuit board is smaller than it appears in 'photo's. I was advised to wash the board with WD40 then dry with a hairdryer - I also left it on top of the hot water tank overnight.
There is also a 24 pin window ECU that's hidden (along with a whole posse of electrical gubbins) behind the carpet over the passenger footwell, next to the A post. Mine was helpfully marked with a label identifying it for what it was. A good swill with WD40 after inspecting the pins, sorted things for me.
The door microswitch is probably the easiest item to access - fingers crossed that sorting that fixes your problem....
Otherwise - good luck!
The Encoder is attached to the window drive motor, with a small machine screw. To get to it you have to remove all the nicely glued on rubber shrouding that protects the motor. The window needs to be up in order to be able to reach this. And the printed circuit board is smaller than it appears in 'photo's. I was advised to wash the board with WD40 then dry with a hairdryer - I also left it on top of the hot water tank overnight.
There is also a 24 pin window ECU that's hidden (along with a whole posse of electrical gubbins) behind the carpet over the passenger footwell, next to the A post. Mine was helpfully marked with a label identifying it for what it was. A good swill with WD40 after inspecting the pins, sorted things for me.
The door microswitch is probably the easiest item to access - fingers crossed that sorting that fixes your problem....
Otherwise - good luck!
Hi Hairy, I had a similar problem last year - I posted a few pics of the microswitch on the thread below:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Good luck getting it sorted, let us all know how you get on!
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Good luck getting it sorted, let us all know how you get on!
Englishman said:
My car also generates 4 beeps when locking the car within a few seconds of turning the engine off. If I wait for ~20 seconds no beeps. Think it's one of 'they all do that sir' feature of Mk1 Tuscans, not sure if there is a fix.
As far as I understand it this is normal and there's nothing to fix: if you lock it within 10 seconds of closing the door and you get 4 "pips" then it's only the immobiliser that comes on and not the alarm; if you do it after 10 seconds you get both armed.TimLux said:
Englishman said:
My car also generates 4 beeps when locking the car within a few seconds of turning the engine off. If I wait for ~20 seconds no beeps. Think it's one of 'they all do that sir' feature of Mk1 Tuscans, not sure if there is a fix.
As far as I understand it this is normal and there's nothing to fix: if you lock it within 10 seconds of closing the door and you get 4 "pips" then it's only the immobiliser that comes on and not the alarm; if you do it after 10 seconds you get both armed.
Not as I understand it. If you alarm the car within about 10-20 (possibly 30) seconds from having closed all doors and boot, you will get 4 pips. Both elements of the alarm are then armed, that is, the door switches and the ultrasonics. The immobiliser is part of this so is also active. If you do the above after 10-20 (possibly 30) seconds, all will still happen but you don't get the pips. If you continue to hold the alarm button when immediately locking the car, you get 2 additional quick pips which means the ultrasonics are not armed (ie if you want to leave the roof off) but the door switches and immobiliser are still active. I'm sure it must say this in some document somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.Edit - Found it! http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/manuals/Meta_M99T... This details the setting procedure with the hazard flashes etc but does not mention about the 10/20/30 sec delay before arming and then having no flashes. TADTS as far as I'm aware - can't remember how my Chimaera alarm worked but as it was the same alarm, it was probably the same function!
Edited by S6PNJ on Thursday 29th June 13:29
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