No-one wants to buy Tuscans any more?!
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Understand what you’re saying SwissToni but I am at 2 years of constant ‘for sale’…….including with the help of a TVR specialist.
I’ve just knocked off another £3k in the hope that it can create a bit of interest and will get her onto C&C as well, per advice earlier.
It’s highly likely that I (and other Tuscan owners trying to sell) face 6 months of b*gger all chances!
I’ve just knocked off another £3k in the hope that it can create a bit of interest and will get her onto C&C as well, per advice earlier.
It’s highly likely that I (and other Tuscan owners trying to sell) face 6 months of b*gger all chances!
I’ve been watching the Tuscan market to keep and eye on the value of mine.
Some do sell, and others hang around for quite a while.
Price is a big factor of course, as is condition. Powers engine rebuilds command a premium. St8six give all their cars stupid names, which also garners a premium
The model type (which Mk, is it a convertible, is it an S) has an affect. Later models and S’a move quicker.
I also think the colour plays a big part. Reflex colours are popular, as are the bright ones. Blue, black and silver are less popular. Also red interiors seem to be a big turn off.
Recently a MK1 S went for auction, which is always a good barometer of the market. Black exterior and red interior was always going to be a bit marmite, but that only reached £25k bidding…last year that would have been a 30k car…so yeah, the market has dropped.
If yours is the blue mk1 Tuscan at Selby, then I would try a different seller. With all their ads the put the fact the sale is on behalf of the seller as the first line of their ads, which is there to protect them from warranty claims but (to me) is like their suggesting there’s something wrong and they’re distancing themselves from the sale. Other sellers will offer a warranty, albeit at a cost, but with these cars it will be much more appealing to buyers.
Some do sell, and others hang around for quite a while.
Price is a big factor of course, as is condition. Powers engine rebuilds command a premium. St8six give all their cars stupid names, which also garners a premium
The model type (which Mk, is it a convertible, is it an S) has an affect. Later models and S’a move quicker.
I also think the colour plays a big part. Reflex colours are popular, as are the bright ones. Blue, black and silver are less popular. Also red interiors seem to be a big turn off.
Recently a MK1 S went for auction, which is always a good barometer of the market. Black exterior and red interior was always going to be a bit marmite, but that only reached £25k bidding…last year that would have been a 30k car…so yeah, the market has dropped.
If yours is the blue mk1 Tuscan at Selby, then I would try a different seller. With all their ads the put the fact the sale is on behalf of the seller as the first line of their ads, which is there to protect them from warranty claims but (to me) is like their suggesting there’s something wrong and they’re distancing themselves from the sale. Other sellers will offer a warranty, albeit at a cost, but with these cars it will be much more appealing to buyers.
The problem is that unlike the past, through the internet, and this site, it's easy to see when something has been for sale for ages and it tells you a story.
We've all been there. Houses on rightmove, things on ebay. Listed month after month after month.
We've been round and seen the problems with the house that caused every other prospective buyer to walked away just like we did.
We've contacted the seller about the used item on ebay and suggested that they must be joking about the price, when we can buy a new one for hardly any more money. That gets us nowhere, and a year later it's still listed.
If I was the seller, I would pay someone like James Agger, to appraise the car. Send him the history and the photos. Ask him what it's worth as a private sale, and what needs to be done to it, to get it sold.
We've all been there. Houses on rightmove, things on ebay. Listed month after month after month.
We've been round and seen the problems with the house that caused every other prospective buyer to walked away just like we did.
We've contacted the seller about the used item on ebay and suggested that they must be joking about the price, when we can buy a new one for hardly any more money. That gets us nowhere, and a year later it's still listed.
If I was the seller, I would pay someone like James Agger, to appraise the car. Send him the history and the photos. Ask him what it's worth as a private sale, and what needs to be done to it, to get it sold.
The classic car market overall is being affected by interest rates. Lowering tide lowers all ships etc. Obviously there will be exceptions.
The Tuscan is a brilliant thing, its unique. But TVR is niche, it isn't global as other brands, so values will be affect by UK centric influences.
TVR also sits in an odd place. If you compare the products to Porsche, Lotus, Dodge, Morgan, Ferrari, Cobra reps etc they are incredible value. But in the eyes of some they are a higher owner proposition risk.
If I was to sell my Tuscan, I would expect to be patient to get an acceptable price.
The Tuscan is a brilliant thing, its unique. But TVR is niche, it isn't global as other brands, so values will be affect by UK centric influences.
TVR also sits in an odd place. If you compare the products to Porsche, Lotus, Dodge, Morgan, Ferrari, Cobra reps etc they are incredible value. But in the eyes of some they are a higher owner proposition risk.
If I was to sell my Tuscan, I would expect to be patient to get an acceptable price.
I don't know if this may affect prices in the UK, however, after brexit, exporting a car is now more complicated and expensive.
And, in France (at least), registering a TVR (with less than 30 years) is now almost impossible, the administration is totally crazy.
If you, British citizens, travel for weeks around the country with your TVR, everyone is happy. But if you want to register it in France, suddenly the car becomes dangerous and too noisy... (and this is not easier elsewhere)
While moving cars out of Britain may seem like a shame, it could help to avoid prices to drop down.
And, in France (at least), registering a TVR (with less than 30 years) is now almost impossible, the administration is totally crazy.
If you, British citizens, travel for weeks around the country with your TVR, everyone is happy. But if you want to register it in France, suddenly the car becomes dangerous and too noisy... (and this is not easier elsewhere)
While moving cars out of Britain may seem like a shame, it could help to avoid prices to drop down.
sixor8 said:
The USA has become more accessible export market. With personal import permitted on a 25 year old car, several Chimaera, Griifs and Cerbera have gone across. Usually by ex-pats admittedly.
Doug DeMuro reviewed a Tuscan a while ago that was on Canadian plates.
Its tricky to find many garages in the UK who understand a Tuscan, it would be next to impossible in the USDoug DeMuro reviewed a Tuscan a while ago that was on Canadian plates.
And that applies to Zeb74's post about continental europe too. The steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car. The export market and red tape are irrelevant. The OP's car won't sell outside of the UK, and it never would have done. Brexit, Covid, climate change, Donald Trump, or whatever possible cause that might be raised are all nonsense. Only the UK market matters for these cars.
When I sold a flat some years ago, the estate agent told me that if it hadn't sold in a month, then everyone who is currently looking will have looked, and you will be then waiting for new people on the market. Basically, he said that if it hasn't sold in the first month then it is overpriced for the current market. You then have a choice of hanging on indefinitely until somebody will pay what you are asking, which may be never, or you drop your price until the current market has someone in it who will buy.
I think we all want our cars to go up and up, but the simple fact is that they are no longer doing that. About 18 years ago I bought one of the very last Jaguar XJS V12 6.0 litre coupes for £6700. I sold it for £10k three years later and thought I was doing well. The equivalent cars are being advertised for £30k+ now but never seem to sell. After that I bought a Porsche 911 SC Targa with tax and MOT for £7500. I rebuilt the engine and had a full respray and four years later sold it for £31K! I was understandably over the moon. Sadly, these days are long gone now!!
I think we all want our cars to go up and up, but the simple fact is that they are no longer doing that. About 18 years ago I bought one of the very last Jaguar XJS V12 6.0 litre coupes for £6700. I sold it for £10k three years later and thought I was doing well. The equivalent cars are being advertised for £30k+ now but never seem to sell. After that I bought a Porsche 911 SC Targa with tax and MOT for £7500. I rebuilt the engine and had a full respray and four years later sold it for £31K! I was understandably over the moon. Sadly, these days are long gone now!!
LucyP said:
And that applies to Zeb74's post about continental europe too. The steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car. The export market and red tape are irrelevant. The OP's car won't sell outside of the UK, and it never would have done. Brexit, Covid, climate change, Donald Trump, or whatever possible cause that might be raised are all nonsense. Only the UK market matters for these cars.
Japan drive on the left.swisstoni said:
LucyP said:
And that applies to Zeb74's post about continental europe too. The steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car. The export market and red tape are irrelevant. The OP's car won't sell outside of the UK, and it never would have done. Brexit, Covid, climate change, Donald Trump, or whatever possible cause that might be raised are all nonsense. Only the UK market matters for these cars.
Japan drive on the left.
Jurgen Schmidt said:
Is it the blue one on PH at £35k with only 3 photos?
If so, that’s the reason why you’re getting no enquiries in my opinion
Surely if you want one you would see the 3 pics and either ask for more or go and see it? If so, that’s the reason why you’re getting no enquiries in my opinion
I bought a Cerbera when they were new but have not really looked at TVRs much since, I was amazed that a Tuscan would be £35k…I guessed around £20k.
If it is the mk2 s for 35k then yes it does look great.
However.
Poor photos and not many of them.
you've used the word 'modifications' . People wont like that. I actually doubt its 'modded' more a case of fixed. I would mention why the fff head was fitted etc.
Private sale. People just don't like them, i think they feel protected from buying from a dealer.
That said they are hard to sell. I sold mine a couple of years ago. mk1 red rose for 25.5k. it was very close to immaculate, powers rebuild, re painted but the biggest thing was the suspension and chassis was sorted. took a lot of effort to get it to drive how it did.
It did sell to iirc the second viewer but getting the viewers was hard. First viewer it broke down
the car never broke down it was so reliable, except on that day a relay kept coming loose. It was enough to put him off!
However.
Poor photos and not many of them.
you've used the word 'modifications' . People wont like that. I actually doubt its 'modded' more a case of fixed. I would mention why the fff head was fitted etc.
Private sale. People just don't like them, i think they feel protected from buying from a dealer.
That said they are hard to sell. I sold mine a couple of years ago. mk1 red rose for 25.5k. it was very close to immaculate, powers rebuild, re painted but the biggest thing was the suspension and chassis was sorted. took a lot of effort to get it to drive how it did.
It did sell to iirc the second viewer but getting the viewers was hard. First viewer it broke down
the car never broke down it was so reliable, except on that day a relay kept coming loose. It was enough to put him off! Gassing Station | Tuscan | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff