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Yes it is dealers fault, most of the dealers mechanics have never had training at the factory plus the dealers dont have the time to do the tappets so they just send the car out.
If the car is a jan 2001 car on, and been run in well and valves checked at 1000mile service it should not need done or checked till its 12000 service. As for finger followers its just your luck.Also running mobil 1 oil is a big no no,your just asking for trouble.
If the car is a jan 2001 car on, and been run in well and valves checked at 1000mile service it should not need done or checked till its 12000 service. As for finger followers its just your luck.Also running mobil 1 oil is a big no no,your just asking for trouble.
comiserations on the car sixspeed.
I don't normally lurk in the Tuscan forum but I thought I'd have a change tonight.
Re; Graham about the info on the startup procedure.
This is what really strikes me about TVR. Misinformation or lack of info. Why oh why are there so many rumours flying about the TVR world?
Surely someone somewhere will know the definitive answer to everything.
I'm not saying for one second that what you're saying is wrong its just that I feel if the dealer was telling you this then it should also be in the maunual warning Speedsix engine owners not to rev the car for the first 30 seconds of running.
Its not just this its loads of things.
I mean although TVR are saying that the speedsix engines are now sorted but they clearly aren't. Either that or people aren't treating them right or unscrupulous dealers aren't doing the tappets right....
In a few years time I hope to be in a position to buy a used TVR which may well by this time mean a speedsix powered one. Of course by this time they'll either all have blowen up or have been truely sorted but it is still slightly worrying. Just wish I knew what was going on.
Anyway I'll stop rambling on now
Andy
I don't normally lurk in the Tuscan forum but I thought I'd have a change tonight.
Re; Graham about the info on the startup procedure.
This is what really strikes me about TVR. Misinformation or lack of info. Why oh why are there so many rumours flying about the TVR world?
Surely someone somewhere will know the definitive answer to everything.
I'm not saying for one second that what you're saying is wrong its just that I feel if the dealer was telling you this then it should also be in the maunual warning Speedsix engine owners not to rev the car for the first 30 seconds of running.
Its not just this its loads of things.
I mean although TVR are saying that the speedsix engines are now sorted but they clearly aren't. Either that or people aren't treating them right or unscrupulous dealers aren't doing the tappets right....
In a few years time I hope to be in a position to buy a used TVR which may well by this time mean a speedsix powered one. Of course by this time they'll either all have blowen up or have been truely sorted but it is still slightly worrying. Just wish I knew what was going on.
Anyway I'll stop rambling on now
Andy
Your right flasher castrol R and magnatec are the only oils for TVR.
As for my dealer its Dreadnought TVR Scotland the only TVR "service" dealer in the country,you just need to ask other tvr owners how quick my car is to see just how good they are. Think they are building new garage at the mo with state of the art rolling road,should be fun.
P.S Nice car flasher GET THE TAPPETS CHECKED tho.
>> Edited by YAHOO on Monday 4th November 21:06
As for my dealer its Dreadnought TVR Scotland the only TVR "service" dealer in the country,you just need to ask other tvr owners how quick my car is to see just how good they are. Think they are building new garage at the mo with state of the art rolling road,should be fun.
P.S Nice car flasher GET THE TAPPETS CHECKED tho.
>> Edited by YAHOO on Monday 4th November 21:06
YAHOO, can you explain why you should not use Mobil 1 when TVR did recommend it ? Do you find your engine uses less oil with Castrol R ? Do Dreadnought recommend it?
How many miles are on your engine ? When have you had the valves checked? How much oil does it use ?
Questions Questions
Cheers
Whitey
How many miles are on your engine ? When have you had the valves checked? How much oil does it use ?
Questions Questions
Cheers
Whitey
There are so many different views on the reasons for/ causes of engine expiry. The Tuscan manual states that light use of the throttle may be required when starting the car - is this now to be avoided? If so why haven't we been informed by the factory?
Also, this is the first I've heard of the use of Mobil 1 meaning that you're "asking for trouble". I always understood this to be the best oil, factory recommended, with dealers and independents advertising their use of it as a real positive. If it does more harm than good, why haven't we been told officially?
With so much mis-information (from the factory and dealers) and different opinions flying around, why cant the factory recognise the concerns of its customers and address them properly. How difficult can it be for Blackpool to work out what the problems are, cure them, and let us know how to address or avoid them.
Come on TVR, pull your finger out of your a**e and give your wage payers, i.e US, some factual info. If you do that you know what - you may actually gain an even more loyal customer base than you have now. Then there will be no need to develop a new model every 3 months. When was the last time you saw a new flavour of baked beans? We don't need a new model, just sort the bloody ones we already have.Before we all bugger off and buy something German.Get your head out of the sand,TVR, and treat your customers with a little respect.Rant over
Also, this is the first I've heard of the use of Mobil 1 meaning that you're "asking for trouble". I always understood this to be the best oil, factory recommended, with dealers and independents advertising their use of it as a real positive. If it does more harm than good, why haven't we been told officially?
With so much mis-information (from the factory and dealers) and different opinions flying around, why cant the factory recognise the concerns of its customers and address them properly. How difficult can it be for Blackpool to work out what the problems are, cure them, and let us know how to address or avoid them. Come on TVR, pull your finger out of your a**e and give your wage payers, i.e US, some factual info. If you do that you know what - you may actually gain an even more loyal customer base than you have now. Then there will be no need to develop a new model every 3 months. When was the last time you saw a new flavour of baked beans? We don't need a new model, just sort the bloody ones we already have.Before we all bugger off and buy something German.Get your head out of the sand,TVR, and treat your customers with a little respect.Rant over
donaldhunter said: TVR used to recommend Mobil 1 because Mobil sponsored the Tuscan race series. They now recommend Carlube because they are the new sponsors. No technical reason at all.
Find the best motor oil that does good work on your motor...and do not let everyone to tell you.
I use Motul V300 10-40 for the Calibra... and noticed that the valves do not make a "tickling" noise on the idle anymore.
ByronTVR
P.S.: I know that i do not have a TVR ... but an engine, is an engine.
Ohhh also ,used Valvoline Extra Syn 10-40 , oil before...
>> Edited by ByronTVR on Monday 4th November 23:36
Andy, maybe it was "Manufacturing Material Failure"
So the camshaft come into 2 pieces...
Happened on bike engine (e.g. KTM Duke) after 1000Km...the piston come into 2 pieces
So we may assume that the material was defective of the camshaft???
But although it can be the valve clearance...everything is possible
Anyhow , the engine oil must be changed every a certain miles, depending on the oil type.
But on these engines (speed6) , i think that is better to use high quality motor oil , propably full synthetic.
ByronTVR
So the camshaft come into 2 pieces...
Happened on bike engine (e.g. KTM Duke) after 1000Km...the piston come into 2 pieces
So we may assume that the material was defective of the camshaft???
But although it can be the valve clearance...everything is possible
Anyhow , the engine oil must be changed every a certain miles, depending on the oil type.
But on these engines (speed6) , i think that is better to use high quality motor oil , propably full synthetic.
ByronTVR
Using castrol R OR MAG ,you will find speed six engines use less oil,but 1l of oil say every 1500 hard miles is fine so do not be concerned.As for the factory and oil if its at the right price they will use it, but i did speak to engine build last year and they said castrol is the prefered option.
Just had my engine go (again), also due to valve stretching. However, my valve clearances WERE definitely checked at the last service - only 900 miles ago. The dealer specifically told me at the time that they'd done it, and then said again to me today that they couldn't believe it today when they had a look & they'd closed again.
So, may not be poor work by the dealer but naff parts.
So, may not be poor work by the dealer but naff parts.
It's a real shame these engines have problems
because when then run boy oh boy do they go like
sh*t of a shovel...
I think the design might have been a little extreme
and not allowing for production tolerences. Plus
TVR do not exactly have a big budget for development
- their annual budget would not keep Mercedes in paper
clips for a day.
Mobil 1 (10 w 40) not (0 W 50) is a good oil but
from greater experts than me - the belief is that
it is not the best oil at moving heat ... some
TVR do suffer with a hot engine bay and as such
you could easily argue that a better oil could
be found.
because when then run boy oh boy do they go like
sh*t of a shovel...
I think the design might have been a little extreme
and not allowing for production tolerences. Plus
TVR do not exactly have a big budget for development
- their annual budget would not keep Mercedes in paper
clips for a day.
Mobil 1 (10 w 40) not (0 W 50) is a good oil but
from greater experts than me - the belief is that
it is not the best oil at moving heat ... some
TVR do suffer with a hot engine bay and as such
you could easily argue that a better oil could
be found.
Andy
Clearly you should check on this, but I don't think you need to run in a new camshaft. On the contrary, I was told that when you fit a new cam you need to immediately give it some revs to bed it in - running the engine slowly can actually cause more damage.
When this was explained to me I thought of a piece of wood spinning on a lathe. If the lathe is spinning at high speed then a blade takes a nice clean slice off it. If you run the lathe very slowly and bring a blade onto it, the blade digs in, you get huge vibration and you lose chunks out of your work piece. (Too much time spent watching the Home and Leisure Channel, clearly!).
Anyway, it made sense to me and TVR Power advised me just to drive the car normally after the cam change in my Griff. The only thing I needed to do was change the oil after 1,000 miles.
Fingers crossed you'll back to max revs in no time!
Regards
Andy
Clearly you should check on this, but I don't think you need to run in a new camshaft. On the contrary, I was told that when you fit a new cam you need to immediately give it some revs to bed it in - running the engine slowly can actually cause more damage.
When this was explained to me I thought of a piece of wood spinning on a lathe. If the lathe is spinning at high speed then a blade takes a nice clean slice off it. If you run the lathe very slowly and bring a blade onto it, the blade digs in, you get huge vibration and you lose chunks out of your work piece. (Too much time spent watching the Home and Leisure Channel, clearly!).
Anyway, it made sense to me and TVR Power advised me just to drive the car normally after the cam change in my Griff. The only thing I needed to do was change the oil after 1,000 miles.
Fingers crossed you'll back to max revs in no time!
Regards
Andy
griff2be said: Andy
Clearly you should check on this, but I don't think you need to run in a new camshaft. On the contrary, I was told that when you fit a new cam you need to immediately give it some revs to bed it in - running the engine slowly can actually cause more damage.
When this was explained to me I thought of a piece of wood spinning on a lathe. If the lathe is spinning at high speed then a blade takes a nice clean slice off it. If you run the lathe very slowly and bring a blade onto it, the blade digs in, you get huge vibration and you lose chunks out of your work piece. (Too much time spent watching the Home and Leisure Channel, clearly!).
Anyway, it made sense to me and TVR Power advised me just to drive the car normally after the cam change in my Griff. The only thing I needed to do was change the oil after 1,000 miles.
Fingers crossed you'll back to max revs in no time!
Regards
Andy
Hmmn interesting. Mines just come back from that, amongst a few other things and I have been, and will be for a while yet, running in again...
Matt.
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