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21TVR said: Di I have posted a request in the TVR/USA Forum for somebody who knows about these things to come back with maybe some reality - wait and see huh! I think it's a great idea. Good story in the making this one.
I bet you could fly the b***y thing thre if you had a US Airforce contact, I know that their cars end up doing more air miles than land miles!!!
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Thanks for that. Seems this could be right up your boulevard!???
lady topaz said:
apache said: can I sense a cruise in the states coming off? how cool would that be
Apache, you seem like you might want to be part of this posse!!!
you betcha Pocahontas, I did a few business trips last year and was pulling my hair out watching all those lardy muscle cars posing in Pasadena, we sat outside a bar and I could'nt stop imagining the sight of a Griff burbling at the lights. I can help with the mech support and probably arrange a meet with the US Viper guys, my old boss is President of the National Viper club >> Edited by apache on Saturday 26th April 00:19
Well Apache, it's 2 of us so far - let's get some answers from your contact and see how prices look. We know that generally hols to US i.e. flts & htls not expensive, neither spending money there, so really the big cost is carrying the TIV's - or not depending on what we can find out. Watch this space. Anyone else seriously interested, pls drop a reply or email me. It'll be the best vacation (woops - even learning the American lingo!).
.Sorry, almost forgot, V8tvr also up for it so that makes 3, any more?
Di
>> Edited by lady topaz on Saturday 26th April 09:52
.Sorry, almost forgot, V8tvr also up for it so that makes 3, any more? Di
>> Edited by lady topaz on Saturday 26th April 09:52
david beer said: I have to say that i have been RV ing in California/Arizono etc, every year for the last 6 and it was my intention to ship the Griff this year for a route 66 trip. Lufthansa do the cheapest i believe. Even in a V10 36 Winni the roads are great and in the Griff, well!!
Rout 66 sounds great how much?
A motoring magazine(cant remember who) shipped a Smart for a trip. They said it was cheaper to get the car to Frankfurt, it was around £1k, but thats for a shoe box so maybe a bit more for the Griff. They also made mention of "sail" which was cheaper but 1 month!! I have had to change the plan anyway.
I am planning to ship out the Tuscan next Summer...
...was going to be this Summer but was timed out. Check out this earlier thread I posted. I also got pretty far in checking out insurance, shipping etc.
David.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&h=&t=14164
...was going to be this Summer but was timed out. Check out this earlier thread I posted. I also got pretty far in checking out insurance, shipping etc.
David.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&h=&t=14164
Count me in as interested.
I've some friends out in 'Frisco I've been meaning to visit for ages & taking the Tusk out there would make the trip tonnes better
I'd be nervous about trusting my baby to a shipping container on the Atlantic but I guess I can grit my teeth for a week or so. My insurers just laughed at me when I asked them this morning so I guess I'll need to look at US temporary insurance elsewhere.
Is petrol a problem out there - no idea what the octane rating etc is?
Martin
>> Edited by mcrimes on Monday 28th April 13:06
I've some friends out in 'Frisco I've been meaning to visit for ages & taking the Tusk out there would make the trip tonnes better
I'd be nervous about trusting my baby to a shipping container on the Atlantic but I guess I can grit my teeth for a week or so. My insurers just laughed at me when I asked them this morning so I guess I'll need to look at US temporary insurance elsewhere.
Is petrol a problem out there - no idea what the octane rating etc is?
Martin
>> Edited by mcrimes on Monday 28th April 13:06
Ok I'll through my dime in for what it's worth, 
Shipping in the true sense of the word would be the best (cheapest answer) can't remember the cost of a short conatiner now to the east coast but it's not crazy! That would be the thing to do, shipping to the western seaboard would be very loud $$$$$
Then you'd have the fun of driving coast to coast! (what do you do when you get the other side ?)
I'm guessing you would need an ATA Carnet which you could raise from your local chamber of commerce - this will cost you about £100 per carnet, it may be possible to raise one with all the cars on it but then you would be subject to all having to leave and return at the same time
Customs are very sniffy both ends - especially their dogs!! You would need insurance to cover impounds or destruction (by customs or at sea)
The bit I don't know about is running on US freeways ? What is needed in paperwork and are Tusks aloud to run out there (emmissions and safety?)
Fuel is the very least of the problem as they have more than you can bath in, for less than the cost of the wiperwash you stick in your car!
I'll watch this one with interest. I was hoping we would hear back from the otherside of the pond by now on the more technical/legal side of things
More research required
Shipping in the true sense of the word would be the best (cheapest answer) can't remember the cost of a short conatiner now to the east coast but it's not crazy! That would be the thing to do, shipping to the western seaboard would be very loud $$$$$
Then you'd have the fun of driving coast to coast! (what do you do when you get the other side ?)
I'm guessing you would need an ATA Carnet which you could raise from your local chamber of commerce - this will cost you about £100 per carnet, it may be possible to raise one with all the cars on it but then you would be subject to all having to leave and return at the same time
Customs are very sniffy both ends - especially their dogs!!
You would need insurance to cover impounds or destruction (by customs or at sea) The bit I don't know about is running on US freeways ? What is needed in paperwork and are Tusks aloud to run out there (emmissions and safety?)
Fuel is the very least of the problem as they have more than you can bath in, for less than the cost of the wiperwash you stick in your car!
I'll watch this one with interest. I was hoping we would hear back from the otherside of the pond by now on the more technical/legal side of things
More research required
In terms of experiences that others have had,
maranellouk is/was in the process of bringing his Tuscan to NYC.
Faisal (faisalkhan) is the expert on importing 'officially' into the US for semi-permanent use.
Sean (diesel dougal) shipped his Tuscan over for the Gumball.
they may be able to share more knowledge.
for prices and some insurance info take a look at
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12549&f=35&h=0
more stuff on importing into US
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=10844&f=35&h=0
Now if you lot actually get over to the east coast - give me fair warning and I'll arrange a "tunnels and avenues" cruise of NYC
maranellouk is/was in the process of bringing his Tuscan to NYC.
Faisal (faisalkhan) is the expert on importing 'officially' into the US for semi-permanent use.
Sean (diesel dougal) shipped his Tuscan over for the Gumball.
they may be able to share more knowledge.
for prices and some insurance info take a look at
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12549&f=35&h=0
more stuff on importing into US
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=10844&f=35&h=0
Now if you lot actually get over to the east coast - give me fair warning and I'll arrange a "tunnels and avenues" cruise of NYC
Paul said: In terms of experiences that others have had,
maranellouk is/was in the process of bringing his Tuscan to NYC.
Faisal (faisalkhan) is the expert on importing 'officially' into the US for semi-permanent use.
Sean (diesel dougal) shipped his Tuscan over for the Gumball.
they may be able to share more knowledge.
for prices and some insurance info take a look at
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12549&f=35&h=0
more stuff on importing into US
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=10844&f=35&h=0
Now if you lot actually get over to the east coast - give me fair warning and I'll arrange a "tunnels and avenues" cruise of NYC
Cool, looking forward to it
21TVR, others:
Not sure if you are bringing one car over or more?
Anyways, if you are a foreigner cominig here on a temporary visa (eg. tourist visa), then you do not need a carnet. You do need to bring proof of your car's registration with you.
Upon arrival here, you go to customs at the port your car is coming in and fill out a form HS-7 and tick the box for temporary importation. They will ask for a copy of your visa. The HS-7 form is available online.
Contact a broker if you want to streamline this process. Brokerage fees for obtaining customs clearance are about 100 USD, and you may have to pay a bond fee of about 50 USD. A broker will guide you through all this and I recommend using one unless you have access to transport and are willing to run around. With a broker, you just get a call that it's all done and please come pick up your car from our unloading dock. Unloading dock and trucking can add another 200 USD to the costs, but this is required only if you are shipping in a container.
If you are shipping on a RORO, then you just pick your car up from the shipping yard where it's unloaded. However, the stevedores are known for killing cars. I would ship one on a RORO only if I had made sure that the car could not be started, and I had made provisions for it to be pushed or towed on and off the ship without damage ie. a fixed tow hook protrduing beyond the front of the engine, and foam panels attached to the back or something similar.
If you tell me what port you want to ship to, I can put you in touch with a good broker there.
Shipping--East Coast is cheaper and takes 10 days. West Coast is more expensive and takes 28 days. A 20 foot container to the west coast costs 2,500 GBP. Open air shipping (car sits on or below deck) is 1000 GBP on a RORO (roll-on, roll-off). Shop around.
Insurance against damage in shipping is cheap. Do get this.
Insurance while touring here can be arranged through several companies. Contact Acordia and Hagerty. They can be found online.
Enjoy the trip. That'll be 100 quid please--alternately, you can bring a box of Quality Street toffees with you!
Not sure if you are bringing one car over or more?
Anyways, if you are a foreigner cominig here on a temporary visa (eg. tourist visa), then you do not need a carnet. You do need to bring proof of your car's registration with you.
Upon arrival here, you go to customs at the port your car is coming in and fill out a form HS-7 and tick the box for temporary importation. They will ask for a copy of your visa. The HS-7 form is available online.
Contact a broker if you want to streamline this process. Brokerage fees for obtaining customs clearance are about 100 USD, and you may have to pay a bond fee of about 50 USD. A broker will guide you through all this and I recommend using one unless you have access to transport and are willing to run around. With a broker, you just get a call that it's all done and please come pick up your car from our unloading dock. Unloading dock and trucking can add another 200 USD to the costs, but this is required only if you are shipping in a container.
If you are shipping on a RORO, then you just pick your car up from the shipping yard where it's unloaded. However, the stevedores are known for killing cars. I would ship one on a RORO only if I had made sure that the car could not be started, and I had made provisions for it to be pushed or towed on and off the ship without damage ie. a fixed tow hook protrduing beyond the front of the engine, and foam panels attached to the back or something similar.
If you tell me what port you want to ship to, I can put you in touch with a good broker there.
Shipping--East Coast is cheaper and takes 10 days. West Coast is more expensive and takes 28 days. A 20 foot container to the west coast costs 2,500 GBP. Open air shipping (car sits on or below deck) is 1000 GBP on a RORO (roll-on, roll-off). Shop around.
Insurance against damage in shipping is cheap. Do get this.
Insurance while touring here can be arranged through several companies. Contact Acordia and Hagerty. They can be found online.
Enjoy the trip. That'll be 100 quid please--alternately, you can bring a box of Quality Street toffees with you!
Faisal top post! Thanks for this, I can e-mail you a jpeg of the Quality Street if that helps!
My experience of the shipping world and containers, is that they get dropped on a regular basis, or banged around. The stevedores are notorious for a being a law unto themselves in this respect - and chasing claims can be interesting as the shipping company hunts the ship owner and round and round! yes, insurance is a must
It would have to be container though, roro would be a disaster, especially if top deck cargo!
Interesting about the carnet situation, the reason I suggested the carnet was not to get access to the US but on the return trip to get acces to the UK with half a dozen imports!!!
Costs are about right, and the agent is probably a good call otherwise you end up chasing round the docks and greasing palms, the more anxious you look the louder it gets $$$$
What are we talking about in terms of road miles from East to West ? - of course it depends on the entry port
simon
My experience of the shipping world and containers, is that they get dropped on a regular basis, or banged around. The stevedores are notorious for a being a law unto themselves in this respect - and chasing claims can be interesting as the shipping company hunts the ship owner and round and round! yes, insurance is a must
It would have to be container though, roro would be a disaster, especially if top deck cargo!
Interesting about the carnet situation, the reason I suggested the carnet was not to get access to the US but on the return trip to get acces to the UK with half a dozen imports!!!
Costs are about right, and the agent is probably a good call otherwise you end up chasing round the docks and greasing palms, the more anxious you look the louder it gets $$$$
What are we talking about in terms of road miles from East to West ? - of course it depends on the entry port
simon
I don't think you have to worry about containers banging around. It's a very rare occurrence. And even the cars are secured inside very well indeed. This used to be an issue in the old days when they used cranes that allowed the container to swing. Nowadays, everything is held very securely. When you go to the docks to drop your car off, hang around the shipyard, you will see what I mean.
The Cerbera that was shipped to Aussie a couple of years ago went as top deck cargo. So I don't think it's that bad. And for this, the best rates are probably from Bremerhaven or Rotterdam. Contact the people who ship out Volvos, etc. Of course, you have the additional driving and ferry costs.
And yes, I agree, while insurance is a necessity, hopefully it won't be needed. That can be a complete nightmare!
For shipping, contact Maersk and ask for a group discount rate. They gave the Gumballers a sweet deal and they are in a far better position to advise/quote you than I am.
You won't need a carnet to get the cars back in the UK. Simply keep your registration and proof of the outbound journey.
Road miles: straight across is 2300 miles. You will probably do closer to 3500 if you do the scenic route.
Be sure to drop by and say hi to my Cerbera if you make it to San Fran. I know some seriously cool roads!
The Cerbera that was shipped to Aussie a couple of years ago went as top deck cargo. So I don't think it's that bad. And for this, the best rates are probably from Bremerhaven or Rotterdam. Contact the people who ship out Volvos, etc. Of course, you have the additional driving and ferry costs.
And yes, I agree, while insurance is a necessity, hopefully it won't be needed. That can be a complete nightmare!
For shipping, contact Maersk and ask for a group discount rate. They gave the Gumballers a sweet deal and they are in a far better position to advise/quote you than I am.
You won't need a carnet to get the cars back in the UK. Simply keep your registration and proof of the outbound journey.
Road miles: straight across is 2300 miles. You will probably do closer to 3500 if you do the scenic route.
Be sure to drop by and say hi to my Cerbera if you make it to San Fran. I know some seriously cool roads!
As I said on earlier post I might be interested but just a little worried about the car being damaged in transport over there...!
Have to say we could create some awesome publicity for TVR by going over and sure won't be short of friends if we got there
Whats the likelihood of getting access to one of their tracks while we are there I wonder!!
Alan.
Have to say we could create some awesome publicity for TVR by going over and sure won't be short of friends if we got there
Whats the likelihood of getting access to one of their tracks while we are there I wonder!!
Alan.
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