Ford Scrappage Scheme - Deeply Flawed
Discussion
So, Ford has announced a scrappage scheme for any diesel or petrol vehicle registered before 2010. Ford said all of the part-exchanged vehicles will be scrapped, having an immediate effect on air quality.
There are several problems with this scheme:
1) Even classic cars traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. Under the scrappage scheme that the government ran back 2009, lots of rare and unusual classic cars were traded in and subsequently crushed thereby destroying a part of our motoring heritage. among the cars destroyed were 100 Porsches, 81 Morris Minors and 45 Jaguar XJ-Ss. Classic cars traded in under the scheme should be offered for sale to classic car enthusiasts.
2) Even low mileage cars barely over 7 years old and in excellent condition that are traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. These would make a good used buy for people on a limited budget. Meanwhile, even older more polluting cars would remain on the road. Low mileage cars traded in under the scheme should therefore be offered for sale to allow people to trade in even older more polluting cars.
3) The scheme is not as good for the environment as is claimed as a significant proportion of greenhouse gas emissions during the lifetime of a car occurs as part of the manufacturing process.
There are several problems with this scheme:
1) Even classic cars traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. Under the scrappage scheme that the government ran back 2009, lots of rare and unusual classic cars were traded in and subsequently crushed thereby destroying a part of our motoring heritage. among the cars destroyed were 100 Porsches, 81 Morris Minors and 45 Jaguar XJ-Ss. Classic cars traded in under the scheme should be offered for sale to classic car enthusiasts.
2) Even low mileage cars barely over 7 years old and in excellent condition that are traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. These would make a good used buy for people on a limited budget. Meanwhile, even older more polluting cars would remain on the road. Low mileage cars traded in under the scheme should therefore be offered for sale to allow people to trade in even older more polluting cars.
3) The scheme is not as good for the environment as is claimed as a significant proportion of greenhouse gas emissions during the lifetime of a car occurs as part of the manufacturing process.
[quote=The_Open_Road]So, Ford has announced a scrappage scheme for any diesel or petrol vehicle registered before 2010. Ford said all of the part-exchanged vehicles will be scrapped, having an immediate effect on air quality.
There are several problems with this scheme:
1) Even classic cars traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. Under the scrappage scheme that the government ran back 2009, lots of rare and unusual classic cars were traded in and subsequently crushed thereby destroying a part of our motoring heritage. among the cars destroyed were 100 Porsches, 81 Morris Minors and 45 Jaguar XJ-Ss. Classic cars traded in under the scheme should be offered for sale to classic car enthusiasts.
2) Even low mileage cars barely over 7 years old and in excellent condition that are traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. These would make a good used buy for people on a limited budget. Meanwhile, even older more polluting cars would remain on the road. Low mileage cars traded in under the scheme should therefore be offered for sale to allow people to trade in even older more polluting cars.
3) The scheme is not as good for the environment as is claimed as a significant proportion of greenhouse gas emissions during the lifetime of a car occurs as part of the manufacturing process.[/quote
I agree totally, I've always thought the supposed environmental benefits of a scrappage scheme don't exist.
There are several problems with this scheme:
1) Even classic cars traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. Under the scrappage scheme that the government ran back 2009, lots of rare and unusual classic cars were traded in and subsequently crushed thereby destroying a part of our motoring heritage. among the cars destroyed were 100 Porsches, 81 Morris Minors and 45 Jaguar XJ-Ss. Classic cars traded in under the scheme should be offered for sale to classic car enthusiasts.
2) Even low mileage cars barely over 7 years old and in excellent condition that are traded in under the scheme would be destroyed. These would make a good used buy for people on a limited budget. Meanwhile, even older more polluting cars would remain on the road. Low mileage cars traded in under the scheme should therefore be offered for sale to allow people to trade in even older more polluting cars.
3) The scheme is not as good for the environment as is claimed as a significant proportion of greenhouse gas emissions during the lifetime of a car occurs as part of the manufacturing process.[/quote
I agree totally, I've always thought the supposed environmental benefits of a scrappage scheme don't exist.
The_Open_Road said:
3) The scheme is not as good for the environment as is claimed as a significant proportion of greenhouse gas emissions during the lifetime of a car occurs as part of the manufacturing process.
That's only if you look at the CO2 perspective.A scrapped car will largely re-enter the materials production chain, the newer car will likely have lower NOx and particulate emissions, and it'll most likely be safer than the previous model
However, none of that is guaranteed unless you make it a term of the policy. And it's especially difficult for Ford given that they lack Hybrid models as even a starting point.
But I agree with your other points, but let's not forget it was a programme to sell new cars, not old ones. There were vested interests in all this.
There's no such thing as a scrappage scheme. Whatever discount you can get for weighing in your £150 wreck can also get without weighing it in (as I proved at the Audi dealer last week). Often rather better discounts can be had as they don't have to pay to get rid of your wreck.
When you see the words "scrappage scheme" read "mug catching scheme"
When you see the words "scrappage scheme" read "mug catching scheme"
Ford agrees not to destroy a classic Standard Ten under its scrappage scheme (but how many other classics have been lost?)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/ford-fire-...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/ford-fire-...
The_Open_Road said:
Ford agrees not to destroy a classic Standard Ten under its scrappage scheme (but how many other classics have been lost?)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/ford-fire-...
How could the finances of this deal possibly stack up to make it worthwhile throwing this car away???http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/ford-fire-...
Cliftonite said:
How could the finances of this deal possibly stack up to make it worthwhile throwing this car away???
Always been the case with cars located that far away from the urban hubs, hence so many seen rusting on the islands around our coasts. This one was in Thurso, almost as far north as you can get. The number of people prepared to travel to view, then spend the money to bring it home is minute, & it's not worth the costs to the dealer to market it, as the same applies. Better for them to take the Ford bung & flog a Transit to the owner - the car business is economics not emotions. Not saying it's right, but it's how it works. Eyersey1234 said:
I've always thought the supposed environmental benefits of a scrappage scheme don't exist.
Couldn't agree more. All that talk of improving air quality is total b
ks. It's simply an attempt to boost new car sales, the irony being that scrapping perfectly good cars to increase demand for the production of new ones is bad for the environment.
Cliftonite said:
How could the finances of this deal possibly stack up to make it worthwhile throwing this car away???
Pretty sure you're getting £7k off the price of a new transit by scrapping your old car.My GF got £4,500 off of a Ford C-Max for trading in a small car worth approx. £500.
Not saying it's a great deal or anything but certainly something to think about if you are in the market for a van and have an old car kicking about.
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