RE: Road clutter campaign kicks off
Discussion
I'd like to think that the 'local planners' are rea- life responders to actual reality ... if night time driving at speed is dodgy and leads to high accidents at certain roads / junctions, then a luminous sign can help; it may look hideously ott in day light but may save a life at night.
We generally do drive too quickly all over the gaff. But it would be good if we did away with safe speedster-bashing and incorparated locally approved snipers, armed with stun guns, to be sat at spots where it is known to be dangerous; and at traffic lights where prats go through on RED, so a dart can be delivered to put them to sleep so drivers can wake up in stocks in the court... or to anaesthetise drivers and immobilise the cars concerned, where they do drive, by common consent, too quickly in dangerous areas....
What? "Red neck" ?!
Ok , let's be democratic then and just have speed limts and signs and bumps everywhere...
What? we do that now? So what's all the fuss?
No coppers to police the effectiveness of the signs?
Hmm....
I know, let's have cameras to monitor instead of poeople
...Ah, we already do have.... but drivers who feel they are safer than the law either tale a chance and put their faith in quick reactions and slow down just before the whitre barred tarmac; or, they make their number plates shiny so the cameras cant see the numbers on the plates. Hmm....
Maybe we ought to be guided by local people as to what are the really dangerous areas and put signs where they should be and not where they are unnecessary and have flexible speed limits all over the country.
What? We do already?
Hmmm
We generally do drive too quickly all over the gaff. But it would be good if we did away with safe speedster-bashing and incorparated locally approved snipers, armed with stun guns, to be sat at spots where it is known to be dangerous; and at traffic lights where prats go through on RED, so a dart can be delivered to put them to sleep so drivers can wake up in stocks in the court... or to anaesthetise drivers and immobilise the cars concerned, where they do drive, by common consent, too quickly in dangerous areas....
What? "Red neck" ?!
Ok , let's be democratic then and just have speed limts and signs and bumps everywhere...
What? we do that now? So what's all the fuss?
No coppers to police the effectiveness of the signs?
Hmm....
I know, let's have cameras to monitor instead of poeople
...Ah, we already do have.... but drivers who feel they are safer than the law either tale a chance and put their faith in quick reactions and slow down just before the whitre barred tarmac; or, they make their number plates shiny so the cameras cant see the numbers on the plates. Hmm....
Maybe we ought to be guided by local people as to what are the really dangerous areas and put signs where they should be and not where they are unnecessary and have flexible speed limits all over the country.
What? We do already?
Hmmm
There's a trend round here now to put a different coloured 30 sign then countdown markers to show you are coming towards a 30 limit. Apart from adding 4 extra signs to the road hardware one of these is just round a slight bend and causes people who don't know the area to panic brake as they come round the bend from a 60 limit. I think the better idea would be to drop the limit just before the bend to 40 and avoid the confusion plus using 3 less signs. The area is also quite rural and I have to agree with the foliage obscuring signs point raised in the article and the lack of directions or signs that have been tampered with in the middle of nowhere.
peteff said:
There's a trend round here now to put a different coloured 30 sign then countdown markers to show you are coming towards a 30 limit. Apart from adding 4 extra signs to the road hardware one of these is just round a slight bend and causes people who don't know the area to panic brake as they come round the bend from a 60 limit. I think the better idea would be to drop the limit just before the bend to 40 and avoid the confusion plus using 3 less signs. The area is also quite rural and I have to agree with the foliage obscuring signs point raised in the article and the lack of directions or signs that have been tampered with in the middle of nowhere.
I'll make the assumption that the extra signs are to attact the attention of an unknown number of people who are driving into the 30 limited (presumably, well hopefully, residential) area without slowing from the NSL. The signs must be a lot cheaper to install than a camera but I have to wonder why signs which have been adequate for decades are now becoming ineffective.
herewego said:
but I have to wonder why signs which have been adequate for decades are now becoming ineffective.
Because people increasingly don't care. Driving is now considered a right not a privilege, and as such once some people have a license they automatically assume that anything they do is right.
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