RE: Official Pics: TT RS

[n4aat]

What about an RS3?

[mk1fan]

Any chance of the white coupe picture being the 'Pic of the Week'????

[BIGBerries]

lanky... too funny especially the werthers bit

[lankyarcher]

BIGBerries said:

lanky... too funny especially the werthers bit

I thank you kind sir, I also apologise for the crap flying around, but he (993tt) did rile myself and Mr Logan slightly......

[conneem]

Lost soul said:

nickfrog said:

Lost soul said:

Haldex is fully adjustable and can be made to do what ever Audi want it to do , it is a great bit of kit

Sorry but in my expericence the "fake Quattro" Haldex is absolutely rubbish. Do you realise it does not even have a centre diff ??? It's a cheap way to add traction to a front drive chassis using Truck technology.(this is what Haldex do as a company).
It is sooooo slow to react, even in the latest S3, it's shockingly bad, not just very bad.
It's only fine if you're happy in the knowledge that you have 4wd in your Audi, as per the marketing blurb. Don't go beyond 9/10th though, as it stops working when it should start working.
I am sure this TT is a fantastic marketing exercise aimed at a particular target that luckily does not understand a thing about car dynamics, nor actually needs to explore the limits of a chassis.Each to their own.

Another armchair expert

The TT-S has the latest gen 5 Haldex which is proactive rather than reactive, in that it adjusts not only according to wheel slip like the older system, but to throttle, steering, brake and other inputs to distribute the torque before traction loss.

It is yet to be seen what system the TT-RS has but it will at least have the same as the TT-S which has faired very well in comparison tests. The TT-S has consistently won over opinions in comparison to the standard Cayman and sits firmly in between it in tests and the S.

I think it looks very good and it is hard to complain about a return to a 5 cylinder quattro car with the same power to weight as the new M3.

Even the standard TT has earned acclaim has a fine handling and performing car even with being FWD, it seems to give all the excitement you get from the very best hot hatches, except in a lighter package due to aluminium construction and more attractive exterior and comfortable superior interior.

Edited by conneem on Wednesday 25th February 14:44

[RainerM]

Hallo conneem

True comment, you have earned a Guinness :-)
Re: TT-RS, but that bloody rear spoiler, it looks a bit stupid like the old
Manta-"brigade", might retrofit it to the normal TTS system, if possible,
otherwise stick to my roadster, just coming home from an open drive in the snow

Enjoy your cars, all of you.

Rainer-CH

[courtster]

chuntington101 said:

Gizmo! said:

I've never liked the TT - but this is an altogether more interesting thing. Love the looks of the cabrio.

Interestingly though there's some debate over the engine: PH says fivepot derived from the RS6's V10 (so a straight-five) with a single turbo, Top Gear says a development of the VW VR5 engine with sequential turbos... http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/audi-tt-rs-2009...

i really dont see the point in going to the VR5 engine over the R36 unit! surley the aftermarket gusy have proven that a nice turbo on a R32 engine can make a LOT of power!

having said that i bet the V5 engine would fit better into the TT. plus they can retain all the 'box and stuff without having to move mounting points etc. will be intresting to see what it turns out like.

Chris.

I thought the basic lump in this TT is the USA only inline 5-cyl 2.5l out of the Rabbit/Jetta/Beetle - it comes standard with 170hp in normally aspirated form over there.

[nickfrog]

conneem said:

Lost soul said:

nickfrog said:

Lost soul said:

Haldex is fully adjustable and can be made to do what ever Audi want it to do , it is a great bit of kit

Sorry but in my expericence the "fake Quattro" Haldex is absolutely rubbish. Do you realise it does not even have a centre diff ??? It's a cheap way to add traction to a front drive chassis using Truck technology.(this is what Haldex do as a company).
It is sooooo slow to react, even in the latest S3, it's shockingly bad, not just very bad.
It's only fine if you're happy in the knowledge that you have 4wd in your Audi, as per the marketing blurb. Don't go beyond 9/10th though, as it stops working when it should start working.
I am sure this TT is a fantastic marketing exercise aimed at a particular target that luckily does not understand a thing about car dynamics, nor actually needs to explore the limits of a chassis.Each to their own.

Another armchair expert

The TT-S has the latest gen 5 Haldex which is proactive rather than reactive, in that it adjusts not only according to wheel slip like the older system, but to throttle, steering, brake and other inputs to distribute the torque before traction loss.

Problem is Haldex massively unbalances the chassis by taking decisions for you based on what it assumes you're doing to the throttle/steering/brakes(!) when you are trying to be neat and find the traction smoothly. And because it assumes you're a crap driver, it takes the wrong decisions most of the time. Add the turbo lag and brutal power delivery and it's a total mess when a TORSEN would have done a much neater and progressive job. I have run an old S3 for 12 months trying to work around the issue both on the road and at Bedford (and not from an armchair BTW, Mr twonk Lost Soul)with little success. Tried in a new S3 and while there was a small improvement, the fundamental pb was still there. If you appreciate the progressiveness and predictability of the traction characteristics of a RWD front engine chassis, then you realise what you're missing with an Haldex set up..

[Cupramax]

courtster said:

chuntington101 said:

Gizmo! said:

I've never liked the TT - but this is an altogether more interesting thing. Love the looks of the cabrio.

Interestingly though there's some debate over the engine: PH says fivepot derived from the RS6's V10 (so a straight-five) with a single turbo, Top Gear says a development of the VW VR5 engine with sequential turbos... http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/audi-tt-rs-2009...

i really dont see the point in going to the VR5 engine over the R36 unit! surley the aftermarket gusy have proven that a nice turbo on a R32 engine can make a LOT of power!

having said that i bet the V5 engine would fit better into the TT. plus they can retain all the 'box and stuff without having to move mounting points etc. will be intresting to see what it turns out like.

Chris.

I thought the basic lump in this TT is the USA only inline 5-cyl 2.5l out of the Rabbit/Jetta/Beetle - it comes standard with 170hp in normally aspirated form over there.

Its is a transverse straight five ... if I see another (usually american) person posting about VR5's I'll scream. The old V5 mota is well and truly dead due to emissions.