RE: Will Tories Live Up To Speed Camera Pledge?
Discussion
Will be interesting to see how this turns out. I suspect what will happen is funding is reduced or removed to the cameras. THe national e-car cahrging scheme will be interesting too. Are they gonna set it up in normal fuel stations? Can't see big voltages and petrol fumes being a clever mix. That said everyone raves about hydrogen cars and thats an even more scary combination.
About the fuel stabilizer I think its a good idea if they set it and don't mess with it. Cos lets face it fuel will never go back to the 70-80p a litre it was 12years ago so any saving would be minimal so this might stop it rising and at least when I buy that V8 I'll know it's still gonna cost me the same to run in a years time.
About the fuel stabilizer I think its a good idea if they set it and don't mess with it. Cos lets face it fuel will never go back to the 70-80p a litre it was 12years ago so any saving would be minimal so this might stop it rising and at least when I buy that V8 I'll know it's still gonna cost me the same to run in a years time.
dandarez said:
Loose_Cannon said:
Wait till they start emptying your pockets! Theirs, and their ilk will not be emptying theirs, they will be filling them.
Good old Labour spin! I do find it amusing the way that Labour go on about 'Tory Toff's' and fail to mention the fact that they themselves are as bad, if not worse, at trying to profit personally from their time in office. Cameron went to public school...so what?! So did most of Labour. Please don't try and pretend that if you had worked hard to make money and had the opportunity to send your kids to a better school than the crap state school down the road you wouldn't do the same?! Cameron's parents were both hardworking contributers to the country who had every right to earn enough to give their son the best education they could afford. This is not snobbery, it's called hard work!Edited by dandarez on Thursday 13th May 10:35
The real crime is the fact that Labour tax the hell out of everyone and employ so many civil servants and policy writers that they don't have any money left to invest in schools. There's always going to be some people who are wealthier than others. Hard work, motivation and dedication are what get you there....not handouts, complaining and striking!
callyman said:
Hopefully this wasn't promised to secure votes.
Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
True, swindon have binned fixed speed cameras - and put the money into mobile units, which now frequent the A419.Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
I preferred the fixed cameras as they are easy to avoid, now it's not so easy so you have a higher chance of getting points.
It's the average speed cameras and sat tracking are the real concern.
jayfish said:
ctallchris said:
* Facilitate the switch to green cars by creating a national car recharging network.
Excellent but we allready have the network in place it's called the national grid. What we need are standards so you dont end up with a thousand sockets and voltages at each one.
Edited by jayfish on Thursday 13th May 12:14
This would not be a simple task.
We already know that the manifesto pledges can't be relied upon. The National Insurance and Inheritance Tax changes have already been abandoned or watered down.
This whole manifesto thing is interesting. In the last election all parties made a manifesto pledge on a referendum on the EU Constitution. Labour and the Lib Dems weasled out of the pledge, the Conservatives slated them both for doing so. The arguement was that people voted in the election based on the manifesto.
Well this time round I now find that the party that I voted for is also not delivering on the manifesto promises that I voted for. Perhaps we should all get to vote again....
This whole manifesto thing is interesting. In the last election all parties made a manifesto pledge on a referendum on the EU Constitution. Labour and the Lib Dems weasled out of the pledge, the Conservatives slated them both for doing so. The arguement was that people voted in the election based on the manifesto.
Well this time round I now find that the party that I voted for is also not delivering on the manifesto promises that I voted for. Perhaps we should all get to vote again....
MC Bodge said:
Ideally the 60mph NSL would be reinstated on rural roads, especially those with average speed cameras on.
I wasn't aware that it had changed; http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverSafety/...callyman said:
Hopefully this wasn't promised to secure votes.
Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
I'd like to see more details on the Swindon situation. A short report in the press last week suggested that accidents rates had not increased since the cameras were switched off, obviously a good thing, and something that can be verified with figures. Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
A "road safety" campaigner complained that speeds had risen since the cameras had been switched off, which can be seen as a bad thing, although it may also suggest that the increased speed has not increased the number of accidents, weakening any link between speeding as an isolated factor and accident rates. However, I would like to know how the increase in vehicle speeds has been measured, to substantiate the claim by the "safety campaigner". Are they carrying out speed surveys? Or is this just someone's perception?
Without knowing the facts we cannot get a good picture of what is happening on the roads of Swindon.
I'd love it if you could stop the councils building more bloody speed humps to destroy our car's suspension. I wouldn't mind, but the people it's meant to most discourage (i.e. the nutters), simply use it as an excuse to accelerate as hard as possible in between humps, thus being even less fuel efficient.
jayfish said:
ctallchris said:
* Facilitate the switch to green cars by creating a national car recharging network.
Excellent but we allready have the network in place it's called the national grid. What we need are standards so you dont end up with a thousand sockets and voltages at each one.
Edited by jayfish on Thursday 13th May 12:14
annodomini2 said:
jayfish said:
ctallchris said:
* Facilitate the switch to green cars by creating a national car recharging network.
Excellent but we allready have the network in place it's called the national grid. What we need are standards so you dont end up with a thousand sockets and voltages at each one.
Edited by jayfish on Thursday 13th May 12:14
This would not be a simple task.
I want to see more coppers on the streets and motorways, period!!
I want to see all uneccessary speed cameras of any sort scrapped apart from those near schools, hospitals, community centres, care homes and OAP complexes.
I want to see a greater number of potholes properly repaired or complete stretches of roads completely replaced with better quality longer lasting tarmac.
I want to see ANPR cameras and their databases used for their original purpose which was to catch terrorists and criminals, and the scum that run cars without tax, MOT or insurance taken off the roads for good, and for private information not to be supplied at any price to those thieving b
ds passing themselves off as legitimate private car park and wheel clamping operators, stealing our hard earned cash.
There are a load more demands i'm sure others could mention here but these are just a few of mine. It's time genuine tax paying motorists was treated fair and square in return for these past 13yrs of being bled dry every which way they ever wanted.
I want to see all uneccessary speed cameras of any sort scrapped apart from those near schools, hospitals, community centres, care homes and OAP complexes.
I want to see a greater number of potholes properly repaired or complete stretches of roads completely replaced with better quality longer lasting tarmac.
I want to see ANPR cameras and their databases used for their original purpose which was to catch terrorists and criminals, and the scum that run cars without tax, MOT or insurance taken off the roads for good, and for private information not to be supplied at any price to those thieving b
ds passing themselves off as legitimate private car park and wheel clamping operators, stealing our hard earned cash.There are a load more demands i'm sure others could mention here but these are just a few of mine. It's time genuine tax paying motorists was treated fair and square in return for these past 13yrs of being bled dry every which way they ever wanted.
ScoobieWRX said:
I want to see more coppers on the streets and motorways, period!!
I want to see all uneccessary speed cameras of any sort scrapped apart from those near schools, hospitals, community centres, care homes and OAP complexes.
I want to see a greater number of potholes properly repaired or complete stretches of roads completely replaced with better quality longer lasting tarmac.
I want to see ANPR cameras and their databases used for their original purpose which was to catch terrorists and criminals, and the scum that run cars without tax, MOT or insurance taken off the roads for good, and for private information not to be supplied at any price to those thieving bds passing themselves off as legitimate private car park and wheel clamping operators, stealing our hard earned cash.
There are a load more demands i'm sure others could mention here but these are just a few of mine. It's time genuine tax paying motorists was treated fair and square in return for these past 13yrs of being bled dry every which way they ever wanted.
+ 1 - spot on Sir! Well bloddy said!I want to see all uneccessary speed cameras of any sort scrapped apart from those near schools, hospitals, community centres, care homes and OAP complexes.
I want to see a greater number of potholes properly repaired or complete stretches of roads completely replaced with better quality longer lasting tarmac.
I want to see ANPR cameras and their databases used for their original purpose which was to catch terrorists and criminals, and the scum that run cars without tax, MOT or insurance taken off the roads for good, and for private information not to be supplied at any price to those thieving b
ds passing themselves off as legitimate private car park and wheel clamping operators, stealing our hard earned cash.There are a load more demands i'm sure others could mention here but these are just a few of mine. It's time genuine tax paying motorists was treated fair and square in return for these past 13yrs of being bled dry every which way they ever wanted.
MSTRBKR said:
The fixed cameras I can deal with, but it's the wkers in the vans that are the real tax on the motorist by only appearing every few weeks to catch people out. I refuse to believe that they improve road safety.
Exactly - if they where there to improve safety, then they are not providing a safe road when the camera is not there. And they can't say funding is the issue with it being temporary. kers in the vans that are the real tax on the motorist by only appearing every few weeks to catch people out. I refuse to believe that they improve road safety.ctallchris said:
* Facilitate the switch to green cars by creating a national car recharging network.
Excellent but we allready have the network in place it's called the national grid. What we need are standards so you dont end up with a thousand sockets and voltages at each one.
Doubt it........there'll be some excuse and now they have cuddled up with the Lib Dems they can maintain their "partners" are against it.
As the topic has expanded, who also remembers the Conservative pledge last time to reinstate the rolling date for 'historic' vehicles which the previous miserable lot stopped? The UK is the only country in Europe which doesn't have one now - many other countries outside Europe do also - so if you'd like to see details just ask FBHVC (e-mail through website) to give you the last available list. Not sure they are pushing the case for this anyway but no excuses now.
As the topic has expanded, who also remembers the Conservative pledge last time to reinstate the rolling date for 'historic' vehicles which the previous miserable lot stopped? The UK is the only country in Europe which doesn't have one now - many other countries outside Europe do also - so if you'd like to see details just ask FBHVC (e-mail through website) to give you the last available list. Not sure they are pushing the case for this anyway but no excuses now.
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