RE: Will Tories Live Up To Speed Camera Pledge?
Discussion
tobster911 said:
callyman said:
Hopefully this wasn't promised to secure votes.
Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
True, swindon have binned fixed speed cameras - and put the money into mobile units, which now frequent the A419.Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
I preferred the fixed cameras as they are easy to avoid, now it's not so easy so you have a higher chance of getting points.
It's the average speed cameras and sat tracking are the real concern.
On the hilly parts either side of the town, hidden. On the Swindon side soo easy to just exceed the 40 limit.
New government.
Nothing changes... you and I (ie Joe Public) pay for everything. If you think otherwise, you ain't lived long enough.
Incidentally, as I live across the border in Oxfordshire (but frequent Wiltshire a lot) WHY is fuel soooo much cheaper in Swindon? Unleaded Esso 8p cheaper this week ...8p!!!!!!!!!!
(paid £1 23.9 in Oxon, £1 15.9 in Swindon).
Why is there no outrage? Have we all really keeled over and 'nowt we can do'?
8p a litre less! And at a 'national' station, Esso.
On my fill-up of 11 gallons a week (ok, 50 odd litres), if my maths are right, that's a saving over a year of in excess of TWO HUNDRED POUNDS!
Who's conning and ripping us off?
Edited by dandarez on Thursday 27th May 00:19
dandarez said:
tobster911 said:
callyman said:
Hopefully this wasn't promised to secure votes.
Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
True, swindon have binned fixed speed cameras - and put the money into mobile units, which now frequent the A419.Swindon have binned their cameras and road safety has remained unchanged as a result.
I preferred the fixed cameras as they are easy to avoid, now it's not so easy so you have a higher chance of getting points.
It's the average speed cameras and sat tracking are the real concern.
On the hilly parts either side of the town, hidden. On the Swindon side soo easy to just exceed the 40 limit.
New government.
Nothing changes... you and I (ie Joe Public) pay for everything. If you think otherwise, you ain't lived long enough.
Incidentally, as I live across the border in Oxfordshire (but frequent Wiltshire a lot) WHY is fuel soooo much cheaper in Swindon? Unleaded Esso 8p cheaper this week ...8p!!!!!!!!!!
(paid £1 23.9 in Oxon, £1 15.9 in Swindon).
Why is there no outrage? Have we all really keeled over and 'nowt we can do'?
8p a litre less! And at a 'national' station, Esso.
On my fill-up of 11 gallons a week (ok, 50 odd litres), if my maths are right, that's a saving over a year of in excess of TWO HUNDRED POUNDS!
Who's conning and ripping us off?
Edited by dandarez on Thursday 27th May 00:19
None of it is going to change. They still all pretend to believe the global warming tripe and as long as they do so, we will continue to be the target.
jayfish said:
ctallchris said:
* Facilitate the switch to green cars by creating a national car recharging network.
Excellent but we allready have the network in place it's called the national grid. What we need are standards so you dont end up with a thousand sockets and voltages at each one.
Edited by jayfish on Thursday 13th May 12:14
what voltage are they going to provide?
What maximum current?
Will they be 1 or 3 phase connections?
Will you offer more than one connection from a single charging point?
Will they be connected to the internet?
Will users be able to lock them so that passers by don't unplug your car for a joke?
How will you charge for the electricity?
The chances are if the area you live in is urban enough that your parking is a few streets away there will be a convenient underground power supply going under the pavement of probably 2 out of those 4 streets you pass. Putting in the sockets is childs play. the challenge is knowing what to instal and making suer they talk to the local infrastructure to vary their output so as to not overwhelm the local transformer (which will only be a problem from 18:00 - 22:00 in winter in the areas with poor infrastructure.
fixing the limitations of what you allready have is a much longer project
At the moment
alexpa said:
Blah blah blah. What about uninsured drivers?
They need taking off the road, all 1.7 Million of them. Confiscate car, Minimum £2500 fine out of whatever income.
Ever had an accident with an uninsured driver?
Ever been run over by an uninsured driver?
THey get caught. My other half works in the courts and sees quite a few every week or so. Usually 6 points and a hefty fine. Untaxed cars on public roads can be seized and crushed under the current rules. Its a good system in theory but the reality is the punishment/deterrent isn't there for someone who is prepared to break many of the rules at once. They need taking off the road, all 1.7 Million of them. Confiscate car, Minimum £2500 fine out of whatever income.
Ever had an accident with an uninsured driver?
Ever been run over by an uninsured driver?
The reason there is still so many out there is a lot of them don't even have licenses (which under the current law means they have to be banned from driving and then caught again before you can take any further action like locking them up or chopping off their right leg) and are on state benefits so their fine is spread out in 60p payments over the next 500years. Which we pay for anyway in the form of taxes. Oh and the cars are often bought for cash with some tax on them already so its only after nearly a year of driving do they get caught out, and then they just need to get a mate to insure it for a week to get the tax.
What any government will do about it who knows as the obvious solution is to reduce the amount of benefits out there and they know thats a vote loser.
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