Help please with non-functioning wipers.

Help please with non-functioning wipers.

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robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Hi all.

So, on the A1 the other day, my windscreen wipers decided to give up the ghost halfway up the screen while wash-wiping. I've had no sign of life from them since. First port of call is to check the box out in the passenger footwell. I knew it had gotten hot at some point as it was noted at the last service. The plastic box has become so distorted due to heat that the whole thing resembles a football rather than a rectangle box. However, on taking the box apart and looking at the circuit board, all seems well. I took some photos.










As you can tell, one pin has discoloured slightly, so I cleaned that up with a bit of emery cloth and plugged it back in this evening. Now, when I turn the ignition on, I can hear relays clicking in the box when I press the wiper buttons on the steering wheel. Does this prove that the box is still ok, or is it not that clear cut? For what it's worth, if there's any link between the wash wipe button and the control unit, I'm still getting water out of the washer jets, just no movement from the wiper of course. Does this link to the motor? If so, how could I test this?

Cheers.

Gray_101

1,118 posts

191 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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i might be wrong on this Rob.... but isnt this fault common to when the wiper park switch fails ?

robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Mmm, not sure Graham... Another potential to add to the list of possibilities though...

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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I would try lifting the wipers up as if you were washing the windscreen and try them. I bet they will start moving no problem. Mine have a habit of sicking if it is only very light rain or dry , I have seen this on other cerbs. The Motor is not really up to the Job it is from a Classic Mini after all. A car with one of the worst wipers i have ever seen. hehe

AllezWasps

554 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Gray_101 said:
i might be wrong on this Rob.... but isnt this fault common to when the wiper park switch fails ?
When my park switch failed, it didn't stop the wipers from working, it was just that when you went through the cycle of turning them off, when you pressed the button for the last time (i.e to stop them) they stopped at exactly the point when you pressed the button i.e most of the time half way up the windscreen...

TVdinneR

240 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Hi,
This thread may be of some help: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The park switch is a nice cheap and easy place to start.

robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Scotty, I tried lifting the wipers already, nothing at all. Park switch could be worth a shot.

mattrosersv

579 posts

231 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Hi Robsco, check out the wiring for the boxes in the manual (availableon one of the sites, can send link if required).

Mine started wth park not working properly (would stop at randem places) then stopped altogether. I had failed connectors in both the boxes in pasenger footwell. Once I got the wiring diagram it was pretty easy to trace fault, see if wipers work when you connect power to one of the signal wires first. I had burnt out connectors plus a dodgy intermittent connection in steering wheel which caused me a headache for a while.

My motor had faield previously so I guess had shorted the whole thing causing the damage.

ukkid35

6,188 posts

174 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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The Auto Park function on my wipers failed on the way home from waterlogged Chatsworth this year. Fortunately it recovered once the control box had cooled, and they have worked correctly since then.

May not help you directly but it certainly hints at the system's frailty.

robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Update chaps.

I borrowed a test light from work today and checked the 5-pin plug coming out from the bulkhead and into the wiper motor. All seems well, different pins receiving current when different buttons are pressed on the steering wheel (good bright bulb too, so no wiring issues). The only pin that didn't light up at any stage was pin 2; is that unused? That would suggest that the motor is the problem, non?

robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Just checked the Cerbera workshop manual, pin 2 is for the park switch!

Gray_101

1,118 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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robsco said:
Just checked the Cerbera workshop manual, pin 2 is for the park switch!
I think some one told you that earlier Rob whistle

Edited by Gray_101 on Tuesday 19th June 11:55

robsco

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7,837 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I know Graham, I know! wink

But I put a live to the motor last night and there was no life from there either?

Gray_101

1,118 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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robsco said:
I know Graham, I know! wink

But I put a live to the motor last night and there was no life from there either?
Pass..... But sounds like the motor could be shot.... Recon time and a new park switch ?

vatanen

75 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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had a similar problem. took out the motor and found one of the carbon thingies had disintegrated. sourced a new one and the motor began to work again. wipers are still broke but it is because of the wire under the panel not pulling correctly.