Should I shouldn't I - TVR v M3
Discussion
ukkid35 said:
Why?
Because you think this will affect resale value?
Or because you think the car will need remedial maintenance?
Or because you wouldn't be able to 'trust' the car/seller?
More because I'm concerned it hasn't been taken care of and the engine will go pop on the drive home. Because you think this will affect resale value?
Or because you think the car will need remedial maintenance?
Or because you wouldn't be able to 'trust' the car/seller?
m4tti said:
What has and hasn’t happened on a service will have little to no bearing on whether the engine will fail. It’s not like the engine is pulled apart on a service...
And that’s arguably now at pretty much the lower end of the market. What your after will probably be a lot more.
It's more a case of what else has been missed if routine maintenance like a service has been neglected what else has been overlooked. And that’s arguably now at pretty much the lower end of the market. What your after will probably be a lot more.
Edited by m4tti on Monday 29th January 15:19
m4tti said:
At the end of the market you’re looking at, I’d assess what’s infront of you. Just because the cars been serviced doesn’t mean the recommendations of the servicing dealer have been accepted and paid for.
And you’ll be none the wiser.
Thanks, that's good advice. I must admit to feeling a little out of my depth, I might be better off paying more through a reputable dealer. And you’ll be none the wiser.
This looks interesting sane Cat is for sale on piston head for 23k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2018...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2018...
m4tti said:
It’s on eBay aswell.
Ask who did the engine rebuild. I can see receipts from Austec and Dream Machines... both outfits that were run by cow boys and ripped people off.
On the pistonheads advert, the rebuild was done by Str8six back in 07. Ask who did the engine rebuild. I can see receipts from Austec and Dream Machines... both outfits that were run by cow boys and ripped people off.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bchUk_uECYY
Clive Reed said:
Hi Stu,
I've skimmed the thread about Cerbera ownership, and I gather that you're in the north-east. I have quite a few cars scattered around the planet (Aston Martin DB9, a few Ferraris, a few Lancias, and a fast 230 horsepower Fiesta STZ230 in Singapore) and I keep some of them at Hexham (HHC Sportscars) including a 4.5 Cerbera and Griffith 500. The Cerbera, although not my favourite looking car, is far and away the fastest car I have. I can travel from Newcastle to Bowness on Windermere in an hour and 35 minutes across Alston and Shap. It is a blindingly quick car that is easy to drive quickly, I think it has a natural speed of about 90 mph.
I will be back in England about later this month and will be picking up the 4.5 Cerbera from Hexham to drive over the following couple of weeks. If you're anywhere near Hexham (at any time) you should drop in and speak to Tony and Richard at HHC about your search. I have no affiliation with them other than they are straightforward guys who do a good job and don't try and pull the wool over your eyes. Richard, the service manager, really knows his stuff and Tony is one of those rare people who sell cars because they love cars and he likes to see them going to a good home - with the added advantage of the prices are good.
Back on topic, the V8 Cerberas (I have a 4.2 as well), like Nick Coughlan's spaceship interior, are from a different planet from just about any other car on the road and they are certainly the best bang for the buck - I just wish it looked more like a Griffith (I'll have to do something about that...)
Good luck,
Clive Reed (Zertec)
That's great advice many thanks, Clive. I will call in and see the guys I'm only 40 mins or so south from the guys at HHC. I can't agree on the looks mind I think the Cerb is far more handsome than the Griffith. I've skimmed the thread about Cerbera ownership, and I gather that you're in the north-east. I have quite a few cars scattered around the planet (Aston Martin DB9, a few Ferraris, a few Lancias, and a fast 230 horsepower Fiesta STZ230 in Singapore) and I keep some of them at Hexham (HHC Sportscars) including a 4.5 Cerbera and Griffith 500. The Cerbera, although not my favourite looking car, is far and away the fastest car I have. I can travel from Newcastle to Bowness on Windermere in an hour and 35 minutes across Alston and Shap. It is a blindingly quick car that is easy to drive quickly, I think it has a natural speed of about 90 mph.
I will be back in England about later this month and will be picking up the 4.5 Cerbera from Hexham to drive over the following couple of weeks. If you're anywhere near Hexham (at any time) you should drop in and speak to Tony and Richard at HHC about your search. I have no affiliation with them other than they are straightforward guys who do a good job and don't try and pull the wool over your eyes. Richard, the service manager, really knows his stuff and Tony is one of those rare people who sell cars because they love cars and he likes to see them going to a good home - with the added advantage of the prices are good.
Back on topic, the V8 Cerberas (I have a 4.2 as well), like Nick Coughlan's spaceship interior, are from a different planet from just about any other car on the road and they are certainly the best bang for the buck - I just wish it looked more like a Griffith (I'll have to do something about that...)
Good luck,
Clive Reed (Zertec)
I'm in no rush so willing to take my time to find the right car I think I'd prefer to buy from somewhere like HHC for a little piece of mind.
mac315p said:
I'm another North East based owner, up near Morpeth. Happy for you to come and have a look/chat but it won't be going out until they stop chucking whatever counts as road salt about!
I will definitely take you up on that, thanks for the offer. This thread is missing pics and links to others ownership threads if anyone has them? I spent my Friday night researching and looking for TVR's I really have been bitten. I also noticed some nice Tuscans one in particular at 25k which did make me think twice but I think the Cerb is the car for me. A good friend of mine text me this morning saying his brother in law is selling his e92 M3 competition pack, so I'm going to have a chat with him this afternoon but I think my mind is made up on the Trevor.
Just noticed this beaut in the classifieds https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Does anyone know the cars? thoughts, please? I was looking for a V8 but have I been too hasty to rule out the 4.0l.
Byker28i said:
I can honestly say there's no problem getting parts, I think nearly everything new is going into my engine.
Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
How much of a premium do you pay for TVR parts? in comparison to something like M tax on a M3? Heads and blocks are actually quite a few around - just at a cost. Most engine builders seem to have quite a few spares, then there's the parts breakers and other owners.
Little update here for everyone still haven't found a Cerb and almost got tired of waiting. However, something has come up a little leftfield. Its a TVR Cerbera 1997 4.2 AJP V8 in Red 30k on the clock for 14k. Whats the catch I hear you ask, well there is one, and that's what I'd like some opinions on.
The car was a Cat B insurance write-off and was repaired with a new chassis and the number transferred. When the repairer
applied to DVLA there was insufficient evidence to prove the cars age so a Q plate was issued and it was named as a
1988 Ford Quantum kit car. Q636GVC
HHC Sportscars have carried out a full inspection to authenticate this car and the report is part of the history folder
In part they reported that "The car is a TVR Cerbera not a Ford Quantum kit car and that the chassis has a chassis number
that would have been issued by TVR Engineering in 1997 when the car was manufactured."
So what's your opinions, is it worth the risk? Not sure how it can be registered as a Ford Quantum kit car???
The car was a Cat B insurance write-off and was repaired with a new chassis and the number transferred. When the repairer
applied to DVLA there was insufficient evidence to prove the cars age so a Q plate was issued and it was named as a
1988 Ford Quantum kit car. Q636GVC
HHC Sportscars have carried out a full inspection to authenticate this car and the report is part of the history folder
In part they reported that "The car is a TVR Cerbera not a Ford Quantum kit car and that the chassis has a chassis number
that would have been issued by TVR Engineering in 1997 when the car was manufactured."
So what's your opinions, is it worth the risk? Not sure how it can be registered as a Ford Quantum kit car???
TwinKam said:
This car was floating about when I was looking for/ buying mine ...Spring 2016. I spoke to the chap that bought it for £8k and immediately readvertised it for 13. There was a thread or two on here around that time that would be well worth you finding and reading.
Briefly:
It may be a really good car but it has a questionable history... I believe it 'disappeared' for a few years and then re-emerged as this Q-plate kit car. No one seems to knows exactly why, but it has been suggested that it was written off or stolen or involved in a hit-and-run... but the problem centres on its status at DVLA; you can never get rid of its Q-plate and you can never register it as or call it a TVR. This is why, two years on, despite possibly more attempts, it is still a Q-plate Ford Quantum (and up for sale again).
I spoke to a friend who has had many dealings with DVLA and knows well how the system works. His advise was to steer well clear as the reasons it ended up registered this way could be due to a murky past and it would be opening a can of worms to even approach DVLA with a view to getting it rightly registered as a TVR. For example, if it was found to have been stolen, you'd end up losing all.
HTH
Rik
Yea the owner has had it since 2016. I've been searching but can't find the thread any ideas what it was called? Briefly:
It may be a really good car but it has a questionable history... I believe it 'disappeared' for a few years and then re-emerged as this Q-plate kit car. No one seems to knows exactly why, but it has been suggested that it was written off or stolen or involved in a hit-and-run... but the problem centres on its status at DVLA; you can never get rid of its Q-plate and you can never register it as or call it a TVR. This is why, two years on, despite possibly more attempts, it is still a Q-plate Ford Quantum (and up for sale again).
I spoke to a friend who has had many dealings with DVLA and knows well how the system works. His advise was to steer well clear as the reasons it ended up registered this way could be due to a murky past and it would be opening a can of worms to even approach DVLA with a view to getting it rightly registered as a TVR. For example, if it was found to have been stolen, you'd end up losing all.
HTH
Rik
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