Should I shouldn't I - TVR v M3
Discussion
The market for cerbs has been diverging for several years as you have probably noticed. Good ones (late, lower mileage or chassis rebuilds) are at 35k and climbing quite rapidly due to lack of supply. Ok the demand is low but in a rising market the vendor can afford to wait.
Then there are the normal, "chassis/engine unknown" variety that are rising commensurate with the cost of buying as-is plus the incremental cost of reinstatement, and even the basket cases are increasing for the same reason.
But it's the top end of the market now commanding 40k+ that is driving the prices up. These cars with their separable chassis and increasingly rare engine can always be brought back to top condition and this is what people are starting to take notice of.
Hopefully the cerb will (is starting to) achieve the classic status it deserves.
Then there are the normal, "chassis/engine unknown" variety that are rising commensurate with the cost of buying as-is plus the incremental cost of reinstatement, and even the basket cases are increasing for the same reason.
But it's the top end of the market now commanding 40k+ that is driving the prices up. These cars with their separable chassis and increasingly rare engine can always be brought back to top condition and this is what people are starting to take notice of.
Hopefully the cerb will (is starting to) achieve the classic status it deserves.
I think we are there already - looking at Str8Six RR LW - not ultra low mileage and not a flattering colour inside and out yet its good money
It seems only a few months back we were saying 30k for a Cerb was nuts - what price now for a low mileage 200x 4.5RR in Grigio Titanio or Reflex Charcoal with decent interior based on Str8Six's car - nudging 50k I would think
It seems only a few months back we were saying 30k for a Cerb was nuts - what price now for a low mileage 200x 4.5RR in Grigio Titanio or Reflex Charcoal with decent interior based on Str8Six's car - nudging 50k I would think
robsco said:
Str8Six sold a 4000 mile 2001 Reflex Charcoal 4.5 at 50k recently, it never got to the classifieds.
I thought it was more than that, much more than that.The car went to Canada, I met the owner when he was over on his second viewing while the car was being recommissioned.
gruffalo said:
robsco said:
Str8Six sold a 4000 mile 2001 Reflex Charcoal 4.5 at 50k recently, it never got to the classifieds.
I thought it was more than that, much more than that.The car went to Canada, I met the owner when he was over on his second viewing while the car was being recommissioned.
robsco said:
gruffalo said:
robsco said:
Str8Six sold a 4000 mile 2001 Reflex Charcoal 4.5 at 50k recently, it never got to the classifieds.
I thought it was more than that, much more than that.The car went to Canada, I met the owner when he was over on his second viewing while the car was being recommissioned.
Either way it is a stunning car.
m4tti said:
I’m not sure a TVR is that savage any more to be honest. An Amg A45 will keep up with a 4.2 a mapped one will keep up with a 4.5.
m4tti said:
Evo clocked one at 3.9 to 60 and you’ll need to be a s
t hot driver in a TVR to replicate that, and that’s if the TVR could have ever really managed it in the first place. Not what’s published.
Having sold up and bought something else I wonder if the original performance figures were a bit shall we say “ambitious”.
Several runway run days have shown the Cerbera can do a 4 sec 0-60 in the right hands. Longbow was awesome at launching his 4.2t hot driver in a TVR to replicate that, and that’s if the TVR could have ever really managed it in the first place. Not what’s published. Having sold up and bought something else I wonder if the original performance figures were a bit shall we say “ambitious”.
The AMG A45 is a great car but ther cerbera will easily pull away over 100
Edited by Byker28i on Sunday 21st January 10:27
Ok so I know more than any what the costs of these can be, but I had 7 years of brilliant fun for little money before I did my full body off chassis restore
I've now had it 11 years and the engine needs a rebuild.
The best advice I had was to put £3k a year away to pay for running costs, thats £250 a month which when you think what you can lease for that isn't a bad deal. Even with everything I'll end up spending on the car, I'm still not near that total figure for 3 years but I'll be runnign it close. So far, including full body off chassis restore/rebuild and respray I've spent £16k on it, ignoring running costs. Now I've the engine to rebuild.
If only I hadn't raided the piggy bank to buy a new family car...
What I can tell you is that it's brilliant, the people are brilliant, the club, other owners, indy's, just the whole ownership experience is a joy (apart from any big bills)
Still I'll have a 97 4.2 with everything fully rebuilt. It was valued at £35k so I'll have an new engine as well, so I won't actually have lost money if I sell. (not that I want to).
Not bad for 11 years of brilliant experiences.
I've now had it 11 years and the engine needs a rebuild.
The best advice I had was to put £3k a year away to pay for running costs, thats £250 a month which when you think what you can lease for that isn't a bad deal. Even with everything I'll end up spending on the car, I'm still not near that total figure for 3 years but I'll be runnign it close. So far, including full body off chassis restore/rebuild and respray I've spent £16k on it, ignoring running costs. Now I've the engine to rebuild.
If only I hadn't raided the piggy bank to buy a new family car...
What I can tell you is that it's brilliant, the people are brilliant, the club, other owners, indy's, just the whole ownership experience is a joy (apart from any big bills)
Still I'll have a 97 4.2 with everything fully rebuilt. It was valued at £35k so I'll have an new engine as well, so I won't actually have lost money if I sell. (not that I want to).
Not bad for 11 years of brilliant experiences.
Stu-nph26 said:
I'm going to arrange a drive of these two https://www.jamesagger.com/listings/1997-p-reg-tvr...
This very car featured in a Reader's Car thread on here last year.Here you go
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I really, really like this car but would have to part-ex my Chimaera Mk3 to buy it. All I've done is dream about it.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I really, really like this car but would have to part-ex my Chimaera Mk3 to buy it. All I've done is dream about it.
TR4man said:
That was a brief affairJhonno said:
NuddyRap said:
ukkid35 said:
The raw and brutal AJP8 is not a modern engine - it is a throwback to a different era, and that era is becoming more distant every year
And therefore every year, the relative stupidity of the AJP8 makes it out to be ever more spectacular. 
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