parts in a box - help me ID them & saxo power steering

parts in a box - help me ID them & saxo power steering

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TwinKam

2,997 posts

96 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Chimp871 said:
as ever thnx.

So the PAS pump has arrived and is original and look sin good condition. As I mentioned before the previous owner(s) removed the old PAS pump and so I now realise that there is an adapter flange to connect pump to shaft.

Picture below of internet explains it, I don't have the part in red. I've looked for it on line, and I should have picked up on it sooner from Ukkid's pictures, but obviously need it. Any sources?

Hey, that's mine!

ukkid35

6,191 posts

174 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Chimp871 said:
ok found it - not cheap..... if anyone knows a cheaper source (is it a LR part?) I'd appreciate it

http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/store/slug/ajp-...
It's very cruel of you to repost that salutary pic - makes me wince every time I see it

There are plenty of Saxo PS devotees out there, so they should be queuing up to sell you their coupler

ukkid35

6,191 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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ukkid35 said:
When I removed mine I'm fairly sure there were four M6 bolts of varying lengths in the region of 50mm

Two of them go through on the left of the mounting plate here

Always possible that my memory is playing up though
I misremembered, sorry

There are two M8 70mm Cap Head Allen Bolts, and just one that goes through the left of the mounting plate also M8 of about 20mm with a lock nut behind it (attaches to the sump bracket)

Chimp871

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837 posts

118 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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so ordered a coupler and noticed the new version has a grub screw to secure key in place. I'm still planning to do another grub screw 180o opposite keyway but thought I'd share.

PS - the banjo bolt from TVR parts for their 'modified' hose is too long at 40mm.
PPS - now need the 3 x drive pins connecting coupler to pump. Fun and games.


Chimp871

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837 posts

118 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Hopefully ukkid will see this.....

Got all parts now and most importantly a bit of time. I tried to get the pump in situ today but the exhaust manifold is stopping the pump going in place. I then thought "I'll remove the sump, how hard can it be?", until I realised its an engine out job to get the sump off.

Sonia there a way of manoeuvring the pump into its place?

ukkid35

6,191 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Chimp871 said:
Hopefully ukkid will see this.....

Got all parts now and most importantly a bit of time. I tried to get the pump in situ today but the exhaust manifold is stopping the pump going in place. I then thought "I'll remove the sump, how hard can it be?", until I realised its an engine out job to get the sump off.

Sonia there a way of manoeuvring the pump into its place?
I didn't need to remove anything except the wheel, the air box, and the engine tray

You don't need to raise the engine either

Work from underneath to fit the pump

Then from above slide the coupler into place (I agree that is a little awkward)

Make sure the Woodruff key slot is upper most, and the key itself is a good fit otherwise it will be pushed out by the coupler

Most of your time will be spent on the coupler, the pump itself should take ten mins to fit

You will need a long ball ended allen key to fit the pump bolts, ideally one of those T handle types (I should get one myself)

Edited by ukkid35 on Wednesday 2nd May 09:32

Chimp871

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837 posts

118 months

Wednesday 9th May 2018
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I'd thought I'd close this thread with a few comments.

The hydraulic PAS is much better than the electric saxo pump allbeit its now sensitive on mway but this may be me just getting used to assisted steering.

The fault on the saxo pump was the plastic coupler on between the electric motor and pump, it had sheared. So although the pump worked the pumps was doing zip. I changed the couple with the spare one I had in the parts box that came with the car but that also sheared too.

Fitting the PAS hose form pump to rack was a pain, a real pain and had to remove the rack-to-chassis bolts on the pass side to jack and tilt it to allow the hose to screw into rack.

The return hose nipple on the rack would be hard to screw in so I slotted the hose tail to allow a large screw driver to screw it in. Picture below.



I found the hydraulic PAS pump wouldn't sit flush to the body on the engine as the pump had threads, i drilled the threads out so the pump would bolt directly on to the engine body and be flush. All works fine now. So far....