Engine Hoist Advice

[phillpot]

TwinKam said:

I had to keep some of my weight on the back of the crane until the arc of the lift brought the weight back within the wheelbase!

Once you've borrowed a forklift truck (and driven it home) as per Penny's suggestion you could lower the forks onto the back of the engine crane to stabilise it

[TwinKam]

phillpot said:

TwinKam said:

I had to keep some of my weight on the back of the crane until the arc of the lift brought the weight back within the wheelbase!

Once you've borrowed a forklift truck (and driven it home) as per Penny's suggestion you could lower the forks onto the back of the engine crane to stabilise it

I tried his earlier suggestion of a sack full of relays and starter cable... but that wasn't nearly heavy enough..
Just as well I'm a powerfully built director type

[ukkid35]

Huge thank you to the PHer who lent me the SGS 1 ton hoist which, with my GF's assistance I was able to use from the side, as my neighbour was away for the day

[Byker28i]

you're doing that in a parking space? Wow.

[phillpot]

Byker28i said:

you're doing that in a parking space? Wow.

Looks like underground parking space, but with work bench along the back?

[TwinKam]

Well done Paul, what's the plan ...are you stripping it yourself?

[ukkid35]

phillpot said:

Byker28i said:

you're doing that in a parking space? Wow.

Looks like underground parking space, but with work bench along the back?

Conditions are total luxury compared with where I did a top end rebuild on my other car some years ago

This parking space was outside a friend's parents' house, about ten minutes walk from where I lived at the time

It took nearly six months to complete, I had no electricity or water, and you don't get much daylight over the winter (and I was totally broke too)

[Demondad]

ukkid35 said:

Would be great to hear from you Stuart as I can't PM you

Hi UK sorry for missing this, this was a pic from TVR101, so you'd need to talk to Woody about how he extracted it. The engine and gearbox were removed together, then my lad and I stripped the ancillaries off before we took the block and head off to Jason at Str8six for a rebuild.

[Mr Cerbera]

Paul - Another Fab story and, as everybody agrees, another job saved by PHers

Your Vid is AbFab. How did you make it so smooth ?
It's almost as if the camera is held in a SteadyCam

May I use it on our club's Website www.tvrcc-luxbg.com ?

and, as your situation is resolved and, in classic PH sarcasm may I point out....



P.S. Another turbine-smooth post-Jools motah !!

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Thursday 7th November 18:16

[ukkid35]

Mr Cerbera said:

Your Vid is AbFab. How did you make it so smooth ?
It's almost as if the camera is held in a SteadyCam

Thanks and yes of course you can

I lost my GoPro so borrowed a Hero5 from a generous friend and forgot to spend time making a test recording, that's why it looks like it's been filmed by a drunk - the stability control was switched on, so the camera tries to cancel out the car's direction changes

I'm now looking forward to getting the engine secured to the engine stand - using just four M10 bolts, what could possibly go wrong...

If anyone could actually show me any photos of the engine on an engine stand to prove that the bolts can handle the load, I'd be very grateful indeed

I'll be using 120mm bolts as studs so they use all the thread available, tightening them against the stand with nuts, I'll post a pic later to illustrate

Edited by ukkid35 on Thursday 14th November 08:48

[TwinKam]

ukkid35 said:

Mr Cerbera said:

Your Vid is AbFab. How did you make it so smooth ?
It's almost as if the camera is held in a SteadyCam

Thanks and yes of course you can

I lost my GoPro so borrowed a Hero5 from a generous friend and forgot to spend time making a test recording, that's why it looks like it's been filmed by a drunk - the stability control was switched on, so the camera tries to cancel out the car's direction changes

I'm now looking forward to getting the engine secured to the engine stand - using just four M10 bolts, what could possibly go wrong...

If anyone could actually show me any photos of the engine on an engine stand to prove that the bolts can handle the load, I'd be very grateful indeed

I'll be using 120mm bolts as studs so they use all the thread available, tightening them against the stand with nuts, I'll post a pic later to illustrate

Edited by ukkid35 on Thursday 14th November 08:48

It'll be fine Paul, its not a big lump. Just ensure that you pick well spaced holes and that everything is snugged up square. Mine is swathed in so much cling film that I can't see for sure, but I think that I only used three of the four arms.
Rik

[Jhonno]

ukkid35 said:

I'm now looking forward to getting the engine secured to the engine stand - using just four M10 bolts, what could possibly go wrong...

If anyone could actually show me any photos of the engine on an engine stand to prove that the bolts can handle the load, I'd be very grateful indeed

I'll be using 120mm bolts as studs so they use all the thread available, tightening them against the stand with nuts, I'll post a pic later to illustrate

Edited by ukkid35 on Thursday 14th November 08:48

You know the engine only weighs 120kg right? The tensile strength of 1 M10 8.8 bolt is about 4500kg..

[ukkid35]

Jhonno said:

You know the engine only weighs 120kg right? The tensile strength of 1 M10 8.8 bolt is about 4500kg..

It's not the bolts I'm worried about, it's pulling the threads out of the block that concerns me

I already have to deal with damaged threads in the two where the hollow locating dowels are fitted

Anyway, thanks both for your reassurance

[CerbWill]

Dont have any photos to hand but mine was fine.

[Rufus Roughcut]

Only have this shot I'm afraid.

I made sure the bolts/screws went all the way in, using washers where needed to correct the depth.

[Jhonno]

ukkid35 said:

Jhonno said:

You know the engine only weighs 120kg right? The tensile strength of 1 M10 8.8 bolt is about 4500kg..

It's not the bolts I'm worried about, it's pulling the threads out of the block that concerns me

I already have to deal with damaged threads in the two where the hollow locating dowels are fitted

Anyway, thanks both for your reassurance

The engine is so light there is no worries. I and I am sure many others have had no issues. Unless there has been an animal at your gearbox bolts at any point, but you would already be aware of that!

[ukkid35]

Rufus Roughcut said:

Only have this shot I'm afraid.

That is really helpful

Looks like I need to remove the crank seal plate first

Also, I see you chose to use the top mount, rather than one of the side mounts, I was wondering about that

I was also considering trying to use all five, but I would need to borrow an extra 'leg', assuming I could find one that was a match

[Byker28i]

I don't have any photos of an AJP engine but I've done it in the past with a Ford 2.8 Cologne engine (capri) and probably have a photo.

From memory - make sure you get the engine balanced around it's center point if it's one of those ones that can rotate. Very disconcerting when it's really trying hard to spin upside down etc...

[ukkid35]

Byker28i said:

I don't have any photos of an AJP engine but I've done it in the past with a Ford 2.8 Cologne engine (capri) and probably have a photo.

From memory - make sure you get the engine balanced around it's center point if it's one of those ones that can rotate. Very disconcerting when it's really trying hard to spin upside down etc...

One of the useful features of the 2.8i Capri was that it prepared me for the fuel consumption of first my 928, and then my Cerb, all three managing roughly 20mpg

Thankfully the only work I ever had to do on the Cologne was adjust the valve rockers regularly, then after the luxury of hydraulic tappets on the 928 it was a bit of a shock to find I had to adjust valve clearances with shims on the AJP8

Thanks for the warning about balance, I had been thinking about that

[Jhonno]

ukkid35 said:

Rufus Roughcut said:

Only have this shot I'm afraid.

That is really helpful

Looks like I need to remove the crank seal plate first

Also, I see you chose to use the top mount, rather than one of the side mounts, I was wondering about that

I was also considering trying to use all five, but I would need to borrow an extra 'leg', assuming I could find one that was a match

You don't have to remove the seal first..

4 is perfectly fine Paul. 2 take 30kg each (other 2 are under compression).

My engine was a bit unbalanced, but it isn't a huge deal.

Edited by Jhonno on Friday 15th November 12:06