is the F type a supercar?
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My V8S... Courses for horses IMO. The performance is supercar esque and it ticks a few boxes I think. If you took the limiter off it will do 200+.
Supercars are marketed by automakers as unusual and include limited production specials from an "elite" automaker, standard-looking cars modified for power and performance, as well as models that appeal to enthusiasts from smaller manufacturers.
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Joratk said:
I would say no. But then again a 599 would be considered a supercar...
That's just owners massaging their egos. Ferrari's supercars are things like the Ferrari La Ferrari and the F40 back in the day. The 599, like Jags and most other Ferraris are sports cars and sports GTs. RichB said:
That's just owners massaging their egos. Ferrari's supercars are things like the Ferrari La Ferrari and the F40 back in the day. The 599, like Jags and most other Ferraris are sports cars and sports GTs.
That's a good point. Just because a car is produced by a super car manufacturer, does that automatically make the car a supercar? In the past the cars that were dubbed supercars were always much more mad or extreme than your regular car or even sports car. The modern equivalents would obviously be things like LaFerrari, P1, 918, most Pagani's etc but that doesn't automatically make a 12c/650s, 911 or 458/488 a supercar too. Maybe just very fast sportscars. Obviously people like to brand associate but then would an Aston cygnet be a supercar?I have a 430 that I always considered a sports car.
Then I drove a new boxster, new 911 c4s and Mercedes AMG GTs. I now realise that the 430 is a supercar, after driving those other cars and then driving the 430, even though it is slower than the 991 and AMG GTS, it has a sense and feeling of occasion that only a supercar can provide.
I'm sure the f type is a fantastic car to own, but I very much doubt it will give many people that tingle that hitting the start button on even a fairly normal Ferrari (430) can provide, even a year or two into ownership. It will not turn you into an instant celebrity as you drive down the street, the 430 certainly does that! And it is not the same experience to just drive it down to the shops that the Ferrari provides.
I am not delusional, I know that a F430 Spider is still some way down the pecking order in terms of price and performance compared to other cars on the market, but my point is to say the experience of ownership with this car is something so different to precious cars I've owned (cars which have been equally as fast, more expensive, etc) that the only way I can categorise the car is as a supercar. It's the overall experience that makes me consider the car a supercar, not stats, price or even the badge.
Ultimately to me the f-type just does not deliver a true supercar experience, even though it is a beautiful car that is great to drive and has a truly superb soundtrack to boot. It's not necessarily less special, just different.
Then I drove a new boxster, new 911 c4s and Mercedes AMG GTs. I now realise that the 430 is a supercar, after driving those other cars and then driving the 430, even though it is slower than the 991 and AMG GTS, it has a sense and feeling of occasion that only a supercar can provide.
I'm sure the f type is a fantastic car to own, but I very much doubt it will give many people that tingle that hitting the start button on even a fairly normal Ferrari (430) can provide, even a year or two into ownership. It will not turn you into an instant celebrity as you drive down the street, the 430 certainly does that! And it is not the same experience to just drive it down to the shops that the Ferrari provides.
I am not delusional, I know that a F430 Spider is still some way down the pecking order in terms of price and performance compared to other cars on the market, but my point is to say the experience of ownership with this car is something so different to precious cars I've owned (cars which have been equally as fast, more expensive, etc) that the only way I can categorise the car is as a supercar. It's the overall experience that makes me consider the car a supercar, not stats, price or even the badge.
Ultimately to me the f-type just does not deliver a true supercar experience, even though it is a beautiful car that is great to drive and has a truly superb soundtrack to boot. It's not necessarily less special, just different.
Edited by sealtt on Sunday 10th May 13:02
Erich Stahler said:
The term "Supercar" came into being in 1968 with the birth of the Lamborghini Miura, the main thing differentiating it from the high power to weight ration luxury GT sports cars of the time was placing a large powerful V12 in a mid engine configuration in a luxury sports car for the first time, it also had the most fabulous outlandish/beautiful/elegant body styling seen at that time that kind of set the benchmark.
You often hear that the Miura was the first so called Supercar but that is actually not the case . A few cars were called that before . The term was possibly first used to describe the Ensign six back in 1920 .Sorry for total geek out
DaveyBoyAdams said:
My V8S... Courses for horses IMO. The performance is supercar esque and it ticks a few boxes I think. If you took the limiter off it will do 200+.
Supercars are marketed by automakers as unusual and include limited production specials from an "elite" automaker, standard-looking cars modified for power and performance, as well as models that appeal to enthusiasts from smaller manufacturers.
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bordseye said:
But hang on! Ferrari is a branch of FIAT - hardly "elite". Lambo and Porker are VW - again hardly "elite" or small volume. And in the case of Lambo / AUdi, the V10 engine is widely used.
Oh my, that's clutching at straws!! 
Is my Santa Cruz mountain bike a Superbike? I mean, like surely, it really is a super bike...
DaveyBoyAdams][url said:
My V8S... Courses for horses IMO. The performance is supercar esque and it ticks a few boxes I think. If you took the limiter off it will do 200+.
Sorry, but I don't think it would, not standard anyway. I've driven an F-Type R over several runs at Brunters and that didn't feel like it would reach 200mph sans limiter (maybe get into the low to mid 190s), and the V8S is 54bhp down on the R isn't it?The rumoured F Type R-S with 600bhp would probably crack 200mph though. Now, would that be a supercar?
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