Mercedes AMG Project ONE

Mercedes AMG Project ONE

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thegreenhell

15,403 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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Muzzer79 said:
It's my understanding that Mercedes have claimed that this is the F1 engine and drivetrain.

Not a derivative of, nor a development of. It's the actual thing.

Of course, certain elements have been modified to extend engine life but from what they've said, I expect it to be closer to a current F1 engine than, for example, the F50 was in it's era as that just carried a development of the F1 block IIRC.
If it were true that it's even closely related to the actual F1 engine then you can bet that Ferrari, Renault and Honda will all have their orders in for one so they can strip it down and see what makes a Mercedes F1 tick.

LotusJas

1,324 posts

232 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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They all sold out long ago, and yes it is an F1 engine - modified to rev and idle lower.

egoold

539 posts

269 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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After reading the drive nation article on Tobias Moets and the mention of the AMG One ,I’m wondering do you think this will actually make it to production ?

footsoldier

2,258 posts

193 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Apparently not, from what I’ve heard

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..

SSO

1,401 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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I'm pretty sure Martin Brundle said on the F1 commentary last week that someone from AMG had messaged him to say it will be available for him to test drive at the end of this year.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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SSO said:
markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.
I thought that was the Valhalla that was delayed? Valykyrie is already in final testing?

SSO

1,401 posts

192 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.
I thought that was the Valhalla that was delayed? Valykyrie is already in final testing?
It's actually both. Valkyrie is now officially delayed until 2021 and the Valhalla until at least 2024, if it ever sees the light of day. It brings back memories of the Jaguar C-X75 ......

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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SSO said:
Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.
I thought that was the Valhalla that was delayed? Valykyrie is already in final testing?
It's actually both. Valkyrie is now officially delayed until 2021 and the Valhalla until at least 2024, if it ever sees the light of day. It brings back memories of the Jaguar C-X75 ......
Ah man, if Valkyrie doesn't see the light of day it'll be a tragedy.

Thing is, they're so far along in the process now that they could probably say to prospective customers "Look, if you want one it'll be £5/6/10m. It'll be the game changing car that will be the last hurrah of the ICE and will never be seen again, but we can't make them at £2m."

And I reckon they'd still get a large number of takers.

thegreenhell

15,403 posts

220 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Beefmeister said:
Ah man, if Valkyrie doesn't see the light of day it'll be a tragedy.

Thing is, they're so far along in the process now that they could probably say to prospective customers "Look, if you want one it'll be £5/6/10m. It'll be the game changing car that will be the last hurrah of the ICE and will never be seen again, but we can't make them at £2m."

And I reckon they'd still get a large number of takers.
That won't help them if they can't make it driveable on the road, or stop if from overheating, or make it pass the emissions tests they need to even sell it as a road car. Or whatever the issues are beyond Aston's financial situation.

SSO

1,401 posts

192 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.
I thought that was the Valhalla that was delayed? Valykyrie is already in final testing?
It's actually both. Valkyrie is now officially delayed until 2021 and the Valhalla until at least 2024, if it ever sees the light of day. It brings back memories of the Jaguar C-X75 ......
Ah man, if Valkyrie doesn't see the light of day it'll be a tragedy.

Thing is, they're so far along in the process now that they could probably say to prospective customers "Look, if you want one it'll be £5/6/10m. It'll be the game changing car that will be the last hurrah of the ICE and will never be seen again, but we can't make them at £2m."

And I reckon they'd still get a large number of takers.
I doubt it, I've already heard of a few people pulling deposits. Also with Red Bull and Newey no longer actively involved in the project, it's lost a major selling point.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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SSO said:
I doubt it, I've already heard of a few people pulling deposits. Also with Red Bull and Newey no longer actively involved in the project, it's lost a major selling point.
All very valid points that I hadn't considered. Such a shame but understandable, a vanity project is far less important than getting a robust, saleable range again.

Muzzer79

10,044 posts

188 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
Beefmeister said:
SSO said:
markcoznottz said:
Where’s that bloomin Valkyrie?..
Delayed until 2021 now. Stroll mentioned it in the latest Aston earning call. I just posted up an article covering it.
I thought that was the Valhalla that was delayed? Valykyrie is already in final testing?
It's actually both. Valkyrie is now officially delayed until 2021 and the Valhalla until at least 2024, if it ever sees the light of day. It brings back memories of the Jaguar C-X75 ......
Ah man, if Valkyrie doesn't see the light of day it'll be a tragedy.

Thing is, they're so far along in the process now that they could probably say to prospective customers "Look, if you want one it'll be £5/6/10m. It'll be the game changing car that will be the last hurrah of the ICE and will never be seen again, but we can't make them at £2m."

And I reckon they'd still get a large number of takers.
Even if I was a billionaire, if I dropped a deposit on a £2m car and they came back to me later on and said it was 2 or 3 times that price, I'd be telling them to do one.

I think a lot of others would too.


footsoldier

2,258 posts

193 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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My biggest concern right now would be that Aston can't afford to finish the car that was promised, as the final payments don't cover the remaining build costs. And, they can't afford to repay the deposits as they are all in the general funding pot, not ring fenced...

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

204 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Daily Wail is reporting that the Project One is in final testing so I assume it's still all go?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-864...

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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thecremeegg said:
Daily Wail is reporting that the Project One is in final testing so I assume it's still all go?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-864...
hope it gets finished! esp now there's not much competition for it!

MDL111

6,973 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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WCZ said:
thecremeegg said:
Daily Wail is reporting that the Project One is in final testing so I assume it's still all go?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-864...
hope it gets finished! esp now there's not much competition for it!
I’d say Mercedes you can be pretty confident they will finish it
Thought the article was quite good given the source
Curious about the 74db level - does for example a Ferrari V12 really come it at or below that level?

woppum

1,135 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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MDL111 said:
I’d say Mercedes you can be pretty confident they will finish it
Thought the article was quite good given the source
Curious about the 74db level - does for example a Ferrari V12 really come it at or below that level?
76db is a fart, ferrari v12 is way beyond that even the latest

MDL111

6,973 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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woppum said:
MDL111 said:
I’d say Mercedes you can be pretty confident they will finish it
Thought the article was quite good given the source
Curious about the 74db level - does for example a Ferrari V12 really come it at or below that level?
76db is a fart, ferrari v12 is way beyond that even the latest
I thought so too - even if they made them quieter than my FF it still feels very low therefore curious how they get them approved then