Definition of a supercar
Discussion
jakesmith said:
crimbo said:
A supercar has to be a dream, something that most people wont get, something of unjustified value yet you still want it more than anything and look at it as a trophy of effort/dedication and hard work. Or a lottery win
And r8 is a supercar on paper apart from one thing, the badge so a supercar also has to have a rare badge too
Porsche produced 238,000 cars in 2016And r8 is a supercar on paper apart from one thing, the badge so a supercar also has to have a rare badge too
Hardly a rare badge then
Are the Carrera GT and 918 therefore not supercars?
Audi sold over 1.8 million in 2017 a few more than porsche but I don't think they are supercars either.
Maybe it's the generation from when you are brought up, for me it was lambo/ferrari
jakesmith said:
4321go said:
We seem to have become hung up on whether or not an Audi R8 is a supercar.
It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
Course matey! And neither is the Gallardo of course which is basically a more expensive-to-run R8, with a clutch made of cheese. It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
HTH!
But you’re quite wrong about the clutch. My last (OE) clutch lasted for nearly 60,000 miles.
Edited to add a link to my assertion from three years ago that the Gallardo isn’t a supercar https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Edited by 4321go on Sunday 28th April 08:29
crimbo said:
I would say neither of them ever were or will be, they are hyper.
Audi sold over 1.8 million in 2017 a few more than porsche but I don't think they are supercars either.
Maybe it's the generation from when you are brought up, for me it was lambo/ferrari
'hyper' is not a widely used or accepted term in the car industry though, it is a Jeremy Clarkson type word that caught on with the public, I certainly heard no-one mention it when I had a few meetings with the head of product development at McLarren at the time of the P1 launch. It was not in use at the time of the launch of the Carerra GT so is the CGT now being retrospectively called that as a get out for the Porsche brand not being supercar-worthy due to producing too much volume? Porsche themselves refer to it as 'super-sports'. I thought a poster earlier said once a supercar, always a supercar. I think there are plenty of Ferarris / Lambos that are not supercars. 308, 400, Urus, California etc so the badge isn't enough. Audi sold over 1.8 million in 2017 a few more than porsche but I don't think they are supercars either.
Maybe it's the generation from when you are brought up, for me it was lambo/ferrari
If you're precluding the R8 just because of the brand - which is accepting that the car itself is a supercar apart from that - then what about the Lexus LFA, is it a a £300k V10 sports car? What about the Ford GT?
Supercar is a highly subjective term that means different things to different people, the R8 seems to be the most contentious one that comes up on here time and again, people like to hate on it. Whatever criteria people set to define 'supercar' there are inconvenient exceptions though.
jakesmith said:
4321go said:
We seem to have become hung up on whether or not an Audi R8 is a supercar.
It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
Course matey! And neither is the Gallardo of course which is basically a more expensive-to-run R8, with a clutch made of cheese. It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
HTH!
popeyewhite said:
The Gallardo has a mystique the Audi doesn't share. Further, supercars, by their very nature as high strung examples of the best of the best, are expected to break a bit.
That’s ok if you’re living in 1983 with limited technology driven production and quality methods. Now days the expectation is that quality is in line with price... So no you don’t expect them to break a bit.
m4tti said:
popeyewhite said:
The Gallardo has a mystique the Audi doesn't share. Further, supercars, by their very nature as high strung examples of the best of the best, are expected to break a bit.
That’s ok if you’re living in 1983 with limited technology driven production and quality methods. Now days the expectation is that quality is in line with price... So no you don’t expect them to break a bit.
jakesmith said:
4321go said:
We seem to have become hung up on whether or not an Audi R8 is a supercar.
It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
Course matey! And neither is the Gallardo of course which is basically a more expensive-to-run R8, with a clutch made of cheese. It isn’t. It’s a sports car.
HTH.
HTH!
jakesmith said:
Gameface said:
jakesmith said:
4321go said:
But you’re quite wrong about the clutch. My last (OE) clutch lasted for nearly 60,000 miles.
Extrapolating from a small data set!To extrapolate means to take known data and to come to a conclusion that is outside of the known data. Here you have Gallardo owners telling you that they’ve never experienced clutch problems with the “numerous” cars that they’ve owned. Yet WE are the ones who are extrapolating. I’d love to know on what you base your assertion that the Gallardo clutch is made of “cheese”? It is after all the same as that in the R8.
But then again, you believe that the R8 is a supercar!
4321go said:
Somewhat off the original thread topic, but......
To extrapolate means to take known data and to come to a conclusion that is outside of the known data. Here you have Gallardo owners telling you that they’ve never experienced clutch problems with the “numerous” cars that they’ve owned. Yet WE are the ones who are extrapolating. I’d love to know on what you base your assertion that the Gallardo clutch is made of “cheese”? It is after all the same as that in the R8.
But then again, you believe that the R8 is a supercar!
That was from a week ago, keep up you simpleton! To extrapolate means to take known data and to come to a conclusion that is outside of the known data. Here you have Gallardo owners telling you that they’ve never experienced clutch problems with the “numerous” cars that they’ve owned. Yet WE are the ones who are extrapolating. I’d love to know on what you base your assertion that the Gallardo clutch is made of “cheese”? It is after all the same as that in the R8.
But then again, you believe that the R8 is a supercar!
jakesmith said:
4321go said:
Somewhat off the original thread topic, but......
To extrapolate means to take known data and to come to a conclusion that is outside of the known data. Here you have Gallardo owners telling you that they’ve never experienced clutch problems with the “numerous” cars that they’ve owned. Yet WE are the ones who are extrapolating. I’d love to know on what you base your assertion that the Gallardo clutch is made of “cheese”? It is after all the same as that in the R8.
But then again, you believe that the R8 is a supercar!
That was from a week ago, keep up you simpleton! To extrapolate means to take known data and to come to a conclusion that is outside of the known data. Here you have Gallardo owners telling you that they’ve never experienced clutch problems with the “numerous” cars that they’ve owned. Yet WE are the ones who are extrapolating. I’d love to know on what you base your assertion that the Gallardo clutch is made of “cheese”? It is after all the same as that in the R8.
But then again, you believe that the R8 is a supercar!
His post was a week ago
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