Definition of a supercar

Definition of a supercar

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Nano2nd

3,426 posts

257 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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this rear view mirror thing is nonsense, i had a guy at a car show ask me if my 981S was a Carrera GT! does that mean the Carrera GT isn't a supercar? (it was early days in the 981s life and a lot of people didn't realise it was "just" the new shape boxster.)

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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PompeyReece said:
Easy way to solve that:

IMHO, I think there's a fair amount of difference that a non Audi-phile would notice...

The FOUR RINGS are a giveaway wink

RichB

51,645 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Chris355 said:
A while back my friends and I got into the discussion of "what is a supercar". There are the easy ones ... any car from Lambo, Pagani and Ferrari etc.
I do not agree that any Ferrari is a supercar. The more common ones are everyday sports cars like Porsches and Astons. Anyway there's a simple answer to this and there really is only one Supercar... I know because I belonged to the Supercar fan club!






Algarve

2,102 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Craigwww said:
Girls love the R8, know more about them and desire them, in most cases more than a Ferrari. I didn't say an R8 gets more attention than a Ferrari. I said it attracts more girls. The sad fact is most girls don't care that you drive a Ferrari and in general most of the younger generation find older men driving Ferrari's a turn off. A younger guy in an R8 is far more attractive to the opposite sex.
So wealthy young men are more attractive than wealthy older men? Who'd have thought it biggrin

I'd bet my left ball if you used the same guy in the Ferrari (or Lambo) to try and pick up chicks (or even get attention from them) then done the same in the Audi... the real supercar would be the clear winner. Its apples and oranges you saying young audi r8 guy is attractive, fat 50's bloke in Ferrari isn't.

Algarve

2,102 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Kyodo said:
Algarve said:
When the looks go south and the performance is worse than a BMW or Merc that you can get on PCP for £300 a month I'd be inclined to say its not a supercar any more.
Laughable

Algarve said:
Whats special about a 355? I realise some won't agree but to me it looks dated, its not particularly fast, doesn't handle particularly well, isn't particularly rare/valuable, and doesn't do anything particularly well.
Don't feed the troll!
Right, so opinion not the same as yours = must be a troll?

I'm in my mid 30's. I've zero interest in the 355. Its not something I grew up with as a poster on my wall and aspired to own one, so why would I care about it now? Its slow, old, ugly and handles poorly. All in comparison to similar price bracket cars of course. I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Algarve said:
I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.
A decent one costs more than a 430 and is approaching 458 money presumuably those are 'real' supercars

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

198 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Great discussion.

I have a 4C Spider. I don't class it as a supercar. But to others they think it is. Especially because they don't know what it is or care about cars. It ha the looks without the price tag. Certainly attracts as much attention as a gallardo or 430 for example.


deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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br d said:
Craigwww said:
General public DO regard the R8 as a supercar.. this was the point I was making. PH wouldn't.

Girls love the R8...
I have owned Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren, my OH thinks they are all nice enough.
Show her an R8 and both her and her sister go into instant "Oh my god it's an R8!" mode.

There is truth in Craig's words!
Girls love My Little Pony, does that make it a Superhorse?

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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deeen said:
br d said:
Craigwww said:
General public DO regard the R8 as a supercar.. this was the point I was making. PH wouldn't.

Girls love the R8...
I have owned Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren, my OH thinks they are all nice enough.
Show her an R8 and both her and her sister go into instant "Oh my god it's an R8!" mode.

There is truth in Craig's words!
Girls love My Little Pony, does that make it a Superhorse?
I made no comment at all on whether it is a Supercar, I simply agreed with Craig that the women I know seem to like them.

mon the fish

1,419 posts

149 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Algarve said:
Right, so opinion not the same as yours = must be a troll?

I'm in my mid 30's. I've zero interest in the 355. Its not something I grew up with as a poster on my wall and aspired to own one, so why would I care about it now? Its slow, old, ugly and handles poorly. All in comparison to similar price bracket cars of course. I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.
First time I've ever heard the F355 described as ugly. And whilst it's not fast in the modern sense of the word compared to a 458, or ridiculously powered super-saloon, it's not exactly slow either - it's not often you can fully use 380bhp on the public road. More than enough power, and also means you need to rev it out to get the power and hear that fantastic sound.

I'm also in my mid 30s, which means I was an impressionable teenager around the time of the 456/F355/550 coming out, and they will always be poster cars to me - the 550 for me personally

Pioneer

1,311 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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It seems every PH thread on 'what defines a supercar' (and there are a LOT) turns into a debate about the R8. This answers the question for me

MrBarry123

6,029 posts

122 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Pioneer said:
It seems every PH thread on 'what defines a supercar' (and there are a LOT) turns into a debate about the R8. This answers the question for me
yes

The question being what is the one true supercar and the R8 being the only answer.

biggrin

Pioneer

1,311 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Algarve said:
I'm in my mid 30's. I've zero interest in the 355. Its not something I grew up with as a poster on my wall and aspired to own one, so why would I care about it now? Its slow, old, ugly and handles poorly. All in comparison to similar price bracket cars of course. I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.
If your Supercar budget is towards the bottom of the market you'll only get an older example (355, 360, 430, Gallardo etc) which inherently will look dated and lack the performance, build quality and toys of a similar priced new 400+bhp offering from BMW, Merc, Audi etc. This doesn't stop them being Supercars and actually, in part is what what still makes them Supercars

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Algarve said:
Right, so opinion not the same as yours = must be a troll?

I'm in my mid 30's. I've zero interest in the 355. Its not something I grew up with as a poster on my wall and aspired to own one, so why would I care about it now? Its slow, old, ugly and handles poorly. All in comparison to similar price bracket cars of course. I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.
LOL This newbie Algarve dude seems to be stirring things up somewhat. Just because you have no interest doesn't make you correct! Allow me to clarify....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8YZzGaprtA&t=...

"Jeremy Clarkson loves Ferraris! Find out just how much he loves them and what lengths he's willing to go to in order to own one of their supercars."

F355 - Definitely a supercar, of it's time in the same way a Miura / 348 / 250 ... / insert here.


selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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mon the fish said:
Algarve said:
Right, so opinion not the same as yours = must be a troll?

I'm in my mid 30's. I've zero interest in the 355. Its not something I grew up with as a poster on my wall and aspired to own one, so why would I care about it now? Its slow, old, ugly and handles poorly. All in comparison to similar price bracket cars of course. I'm struggling to find a reason to buy one, other than wanting a somewhat modern Ferrari but can't afford a "real" supercar one.
First time I've ever heard the F355 described as ugly. And whilst it's not fast in the modern sense of the word compared to a 458, or ridiculously powered super-saloon, it's not exactly slow either - it's not often you can fully use 380bhp on the public road. More than enough power, and also means you need to rev it out to get the power and hear that fantastic sound.

I'm also in my mid 30s, which means I was an impressionable teenager around the time of the 456/F355/550 coming out, and they will always be poster cars to me - the 550 for me personally
I'd give either or both testes for the F355. It is not ugly, just of it's time. Wait for 30 years and see how well the Gallardo fares.

Chris355

Original Poster:

796 posts

197 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Beautiful!

MaserCoupe

149 posts

89 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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F355 Ugly?? Really?? To each their own, but give me a naturally aspirated 3 pedal car any day of the week with lines like my car. There are things that are simply timeless and this is one of those.....If you really seriously look and research the history behind this car you'll be amazed.......A watershed moment car for me. It had so many firsts and so many lasts......Nothing will ever come close for having the complete package..........21plus years young design, a soundtrack that can never be replicated and looks to make me go weak at the knees. I think at the end of the day its how this car makes you feel..............Engaged, happy and exciting comes to mind. Nothing comes close to the feeling of when you dip the clutch, drop a cog or two and blast through a tunnel or when you get a series of corners and bends right, knowing it was you and not a computer flattering you............Hero cars these 355's....Some people understand charisma and some people well.............don't.

Beni997

390 posts

112 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I can honestly say I think the 355 is possibly the prettiest car ever made in my eyes and it's my biggest regret not buying one 6/7 years ago when they were ridiculously cheap.

It's the kind of car that I would quite happily never drive and just leave it in the garage under the lights and just sit and stare at it. Like a piece of art work.

mon the fish

1,419 posts

149 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Beni997 said:
I can honestly say I think the 355 is possibly the prettiest car ever made in my eyes and it's my biggest regret not buying one 6/7 years ago when they were ridiculously cheap.

It's the kind of car that I would quite happily never drive and just leave it in the garage under the lights and just sit and stare at it. Like a piece of art work.
But you would need the epic soundtrack playing in the background for the full effect biggrin

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I think the answer to this question is quite simple :

"ITS WHATEVER I'M DRIVING " getmecoat


Not me personally but whoever is posting !

F355 was, is, and forever will be a supercar and in manual with capristo exhaust its sublime