Performante vs Aventador SV Roadster.

Performante vs Aventador SV Roadster.

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Turbo cab

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1,601 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Morning all.

I'm in the fortunate position whereby I have been offered overs for my Performante with a view to conclude the deal at the end of this month.

I absolutely adore this car and whilst not as quick as my previous Mclarens its been a dam sight more reliable in six weeks and almost 2000 miles of ownership, I also have a spyder variant on order for September delivery so am not fussed to get out of it now for a profit.

I'm tempted to Jump into an Aventador SV Roadster to tide me over however, having heard mixed reviews I was curious to hear some real world answers from anyone on here that may have both, or have driven both and how do they stack up against one another?

The SV wins hands down in the looks and sound department however, I have been told that the drive is not as good or involving. Things like ride quality and harshness doesn't bother me but just how bad is the gearbox and overall drive compared to the Perf?

The cars I have been looking at have close to delivery miles so its not easy to get a decent test drive if any to really get a feel for the car, I also don't like to come across as a tyre kicker with the first drive for new cars usually being when I collect them.

Thanks in advance.




MDL111

6,973 posts

178 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Can’t really help you with first hand knowledge - I personally prefer the Ferrari F1 gearbox to the DCT transmission, I am in the minority though - am sure somebody with an SV will be along to give first hand input

Looks wise no contest and the way Lambo V12s sound is just sublime imo

topjay

775 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Not sure what you are looking to answers for specifically as it is really personal preference, drive one and you will know if it’s for you, it’s a bit like a tractor with all the noises and big heavy engine in the way it does stuff. Corsa in it has been setup to be too aggressive for the road imo although the latest software has improved it a lot and is still very aggressive if you like that.

SV clutch is acceptable, it’s as good as any normal car, much better than aventador but not as good as S and poor and loses a lot of performance compared to dct but it does sort of suit it and there is more interaction, it feels more supercar in a way.

I had a Huracan and an SV, both coupe, still have SV, performance wise in a straight line there is very little in it, Sv is faster in gear but then loses that pull back on every gear change, huracan would be faster on most roads because the SV is just silly, it’s a car for big wide open roads.

The SV has a bit of magic to it, it’s got soul which modern cars including Huracan lack, it feels special and you become a rockstar just sitting in it in your garage, but undoubtedly it is a worse car by measurable standards, however it has something you can’t measure and is more than the sum of its parts and on paper stats and that’s the enjoyment and an unspoken bond you get with it after a bit that you don’t get with most new “perfect” cars.. The S is also a better car and drives better but most SV owners that I know have had all of the other models and the only one that has stayed longer term is the SV.

SV will make you feel special but will be a pain in every other way, every time you move it you will need to fill it with petrol, but you will look back at it and smile, it’s the top of the tree iconic car.

It’s like an ageing friend that plays professional sport that is still top of his game, but is from a different era and will retire in a couple of years, never to be replaced, likes drinking, eating, partying and a bit of misbehaviour now and again.

Huracan is the perfect physical specimen athlete to be admired that eats clean doesn’t drink or really go out but turns out perfect performances week after week, you can’t fault & you know how reliable and good it is but despite being technically better it doesn’t give the same enjoyment and bond as the silly one!


topjay

775 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Also forgot to add the V12’s need a few thousand miles running in before they feel right, driving one with very low miles will be nothing like one that is properly run it, they are like totally different cars after a bit of use and like all big engines get faster and faster the more miles that go on them.

A lot of people that flipped them never had any idea what the car drove like as they made a quick buck and then tried to justify why they had done something a bit naughty by saying it didn’t drive well.

The drag alone from the engine when low miles is almost like braking when you let off!

MDL111

6,973 posts

178 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Awesome description - I really need to try one at some point - sounds like my kind of car

Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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topjay said:
Not sure what you are looking to answers for specifically as it is really personal preference, drive one and you will know if it’s for you, it’s a bit like a tractor with all the noises and big heavy engine in the way it does stuff. Corsa in it has been setup to be too aggressive for the road imo although the latest software has improved it a lot and is still very aggressive if you like that.

SV clutch is acceptable, it’s as good as any normal car, much better than aventador but not as good as S and poor and loses a lot of performance compared to dct but it does sort of suit it and there is more interaction, it feels more supercar in a way.

I had a Huracan and an SV, both coupe, still have SV, performance wise in a straight line there is very little in it, Sv is faster in gear but then loses that pull back on every gear change, huracan would be faster on most roads because the SV is just silly, it’s a car for big wide open roads.

The SV has a bit of magic to it, it’s got soul which modern cars including Huracan lack, it feels special and you become a rockstar just sitting in it in your garage, but undoubtedly it is a worse car by measurable standards, however it has something you can’t measure and is more than the sum of its parts and on paper stats and that’s the enjoyment and an unspoken bond you get with it after a bit that you don’t get with most new “perfect” cars.. The S is also a better car and drives better but most SV owners that I know have had all of the other models and the only one that has stayed longer term is the SV.

SV will make you feel special but will be a pain in every other way, every time you move it you will need to fill it with petrol, but you will look back at it and smile, it’s the top of the tree iconic car.

It’s like an ageing friend that plays professional sport that is still top of his game, but is from a different era and will retire in a couple of years, never to be replaced, likes drinking, eating, partying and a bit of misbehaviour now and again.

Huracan is the perfect physical specimen athlete to be admired that eats clean doesn’t drink or really go out but turns out perfect performances week after week, you can’t fault & you know how reliable and good it is but despite being technically better it doesn’t give the same enjoyment and bond as the silly one!
I would buy one based on this description alone. biggrin

Ferruccio

1,836 posts

120 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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topjay said:
The SV has a bit of magic to it, it’s got soul which modern cars including Huracan lack, it feels special and you become a rockstar just sitting in it in your garage, but undoubtedly it is a worse car by measurable standards, however it has something you can’t measure and is more than the sum of its parts and on paper stats and that’s the enjoyment and an unspoken bond you get with it after a bit that you don’t get with most new “perfect” cars.. The S is also a better car and drives better but most SV owners that I know have had all of the other models and the only one that has stayed longer term is the SV.

SV will make you feel special but will be a pain in every other way, every time you move it you will need to fill it with petrol, but you will look back at it and smile, it’s the top of the tree iconic car.

It’s like an ageing friend that plays professional sport that is still top of his game, but is from a different era and will retire in a couple of years, never to be replaced, likes drinking, eating, partying and a bit of misbehaviour now and again.
That is exactly, precisely, the spirit of Lamborghini.
And it is priceless.

Turbo cab

Original Poster:

1,601 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Never you mind said:
I would buy one based on this description alone. biggrin
I'm sold!!

Topjay that was brilliant, thank you Sir!.

I suppose next steps are to maybe find one with a bit more mileage and see if I can give it a go.

Deano84

812 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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topjay said:
Not sure what you are looking to answers for specifically as it is really personal preference, drive one and you will know if it’s for you, it’s a bit like a tractor with all the noises and big heavy engine in the way it does stuff. Corsa in it has been setup to be too aggressive for the road imo although the latest software has improved it a lot and is still very aggressive if you like that.

SV clutch is acceptable, it’s as good as any normal car, much better than aventador but not as good as S and poor and loses a lot of performance compared to dct but it does sort of suit it and there is more interaction, it feels more supercar in a way.

I had a Huracan and an SV, both coupe, still have SV, performance wise in a straight line there is very little in it, Sv is faster in gear but then loses that pull back on every gear change, huracan would be faster on most roads because the SV is just silly, it’s a car for big wide open roads.

The SV has a bit of magic to it, it’s got soul which modern cars including Huracan lack, it feels special and you become a rockstar just sitting in it in your garage, but undoubtedly it is a worse car by measurable standards, however it has something you can’t measure and is more than the sum of its parts and on paper stats and that’s the enjoyment and an unspoken bond you get with it after a bit that you don’t get with most new “perfect” cars.. The S is also a better car and drives better but most SV owners that I know have had all of the other models and the only one that has stayed longer term is the SV.

SV will make you feel special but will be a pain in every other way, every time you move it you will need to fill it with petrol, but you will look back at it and smile, it’s the top of the tree iconic car.

It’s like an ageing friend that plays professional sport that is still top of his game, but is from a different era and will retire in a couple of years, never to be replaced, likes drinking, eating, partying and a bit of misbehaviour now and again.

Huracan is the perfect physical specimen athlete to be admired that eats clean doesn’t drink or really go out but turns out perfect performances week after week, you can’t fault & you know how reliable and good it is but despite being technically better it doesn’t give the same enjoyment and bond as the silly one!
What a great description..... Love it

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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what about a murci sv?

topjay

775 posts

219 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Also there is a easy cure for the uncomfortable race seats if you get them, put spacers in at the front, costs virtually nothing and makes it a lot better driving position rather than sitting with your face on the windscreen, not to say comfy as such, but a lot better, that and a sparco support cushion and you will be all good.

Turbo cab

Original Poster:

1,601 posts

233 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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topjay said:
Also there is a easy cure for the uncomfortable race seats if you get them, put spacers in at the front, costs virtually nothing and makes it a lot better driving position rather than sitting with your face on the windscreen, not to say comfy as such, but a lot better, that and a sparco support cushion and you will be all good.
I've got a small pillow - the ones they give you on Transatlantic flights in my Perf and that works wonders for me with the race seats, if I was going to keep it longer I would have got it trimmed in the same fabric as the interior. I specced my spyder with comfort seats which I knew was the right choice after spending an hour and a half in traffic after my initial collection and it nearly broke my back!

Good to know about the spacers though - thanks!

dad_drive

71 posts

93 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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I'm thinking of doing something similar and chopping in my Performante for an Aventador S. The Performante is clearly the better car - faster real world (certainly in my hands), smaller, better handling, better gearbox, easier to live with, easier to park, arguably better looking. Yet I'm still lusting after the prehistoric V12.

I've driven the S quite a bit now. The gearbox is usually fine then all of a sudden it will shift with an almighty delay/lurch as if you caught it snoozing and it somehow forgot for a moment that it was supposed to be a gearbox. I reckon that's something that will become increasingly frustrating the more you use the car.


Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Slight thread highjack but out of interest what would it be like going from a 13 plate Gallardo to an oldish (200K) bog standard Aventador ?

topjay

775 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Never you mind said:
Slight thread highjack but out of interest what would it be like going from a 13 plate Gallardo to an oldish (200K) bog standard Aventador ?
I also had both of those cars one after another, but someone else I’m sure has more current knowledge as mine was a bit out of date.

Small version. Lp560 very solid car in all departments, my early Aventador had lots of minor issues. More Like a gt car like Bentley you couldn’t really feel that much what it was doing unless you pushed it over limit which you would be silly to do unless on a track, a very fast cruiser. But not that much faster than Gallardo until very silly speeds. Galllardo more feeling and chuck able.
Aventador Bouncy suspension but actually good ride on the bigger tyres and jumpy gearbox which was really bad when cold, assume software and fluids will have cured it by now. Much bigger league car but not as fun. I didn’t think the Aventador was that great except it makes you a rockstar and looks awesome, it’s an experience you have to have at some point. But as I say that was a long time ago and I imagine they have resolved a lot of the issues I had. It’s also massive in comparison to Gallardo so rubbish on rough or country roads that are smaller. Needs under bumper protection as very easy to catch it on slopes and rough roads as it so long, I added bump strips, never needed them in a Gallardo ever.

V12 is an amazing engine magical but also with a few flaws, very different to V10, runs lumpy as no dfi so much more old school, it just does it’s own thing whether you like it or not, uses 2x fuel,2-3 x servicing cost, consistent power over the Rev range so almost feels lethargic and slow compared to V10 that gets its big hit at 6k. Feels less sporty because of this but it’s fast and very stable you could happily cruise at 150+ which is the point it gets to feel fast in a Gallardo.


Lamborghini is clever, the cars are so different you could happily own both as they serve different jobs and go about it in different ways.

mhh

1,558 posts

243 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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I had an SV Roadster for a year. A stunning thing to look at and listen to but a disappointment to drive. The gearbox is just awful after a double clutch. It's a big old thing to throw around but it actually rides and steers pretty well. You have a choice of seats - uncomfortable fixed buckets which may or may not suit your shape or comfort seats with very little lateral support.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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topjay said:
words of wisdom
Banging a drum but what a sublime description that is.

dad_drive said:
The gearbox is usually fine then all of a sudden it will shift with an almighty delay/lurch as if you caught it snoozing and it somehow forgot for a moment that it was supposed to be a gearbox.
Personifying the gearbox like this made me chuckle for a good 5 minutes, thanks smile

Edited by Durzel on Monday 21st May 10:55

TGETV

390 posts

89 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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I went from an Aventador S to the SV, and having had varying supercars over the past few years, nothing has made me grin or has been as special as the SV. It is flawed by usual judging metrics, but I would have one in a flash over any Huracan. You learn to love the absolutely brutal shifts and silliness, in fact I burst out laughing every time I shift on full chat in corsa. It is immense.
The SV is the pinnacle of Lamborghini and is an icon of it's time, there is simply nothing else like it, unless you start spending well over a million quid. And even then...

TP321

1,480 posts

199 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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TGETV said:
I went from an Aventador S to the SV, and having had varying supercars over the past few years, nothing has made me grin or has been as special as the SV. It is flawed by usual judging metrics, but I would have one in a flash over any Huracan. You learn to love the absolutely brutal shifts and silliness, in fact I burst out laughing every time I shift on full chat in corsa. It is immense.
The SV is the pinnacle of Lamborghini and is an icon of it's time, there is simply nothing else like it, unless you start spending well over a million quid. And even then...
Whats the difference between S and SV?

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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TGETV said:
I went from an Aventador S to the SV, and having had varying supercars over the past few years, nothing has made me grin or has been as special as the SV. It is flawed by usual judging metrics, but I would have one in a flash over any Huracan. You learn to love the absolutely brutal shifts and silliness, in fact I burst out laughing every time I shift on full chat in corsa. It is immense.
The SV is the pinnacle of Lamborghini and is an icon of it's time, there is simply nothing else like it, unless you start spending well over a million quid. And even then...
Should of kept the PERFORMANTE Tom, big mistake.
Aventador SV looks awesome and might be great posing around Harolds but sorry that gearbox and its size and weight are its biggest failing as a drivers car.

Performante is a proper drivers car, a first for Lamborghini