Performante vs Aventador SV Roadster.
Discussion
Try to ignore RamboNarcicist Tom,
He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
Turbo cab said:
Try to ignore RamboNarcicist Tom,
He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
I own a Performante and I would hands down choose the SV over it any day of the week! He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
Congrats Tom it looks unreal!!!
RamboLambo said:
Why didn't you buy one then ? I thought about it and could of but having test drove one I chose not to. Lets just leave it as it wasn't for me
Fair enough and good question, hopefully I will get one in the future.Don’t get me wrong, I do love the Performante, it’s an incredible car to drive as you well know, but the SV is still at the top of the tree for me.
Will you be looking to get an SVJ when it comes out?
Deano84 said:
Fair enough and good question, hopefully I will get one in the future.
Don’t get me wrong, I do love the Performante, it’s an incredible car to drive as you well know, but the SV is still at the top of the tree for me.
Will you be looking to get an SVJ when it comes out?
I love the looks but sadly not the drive of the SV. Its too big for me and sadly I'm a gearbox snob and that change is too slow and jerky for me.Don’t get me wrong, I do love the Performante, it’s an incredible car to drive as you well know, but the SV is still at the top of the tree for me.
Will you be looking to get an SVJ when it comes out?
For the same reasons I'm not even entertaining the SVJ. Maybe when they put a decent gearbox in it I will revisit the aventador but until then its a posers car and not a drivers car ( contrary to belief I like to drive all my cars regularly )
Another McLaren and Performante spyder are next
RamboLambo said:
Deano84 said:
Fair enough and good question, hopefully I will get one in the future.
Don’t get me wrong, I do love the Performante, it’s an incredible car to drive as you well know, but the SV is still at the top of the tree for me.
Will you be looking to get an SVJ when it comes out?
I love the looks but sadly not the drive of the SV. Its too big for me and sadly I'm a gearbox snob and that change is too slow and jerky for me.Don’t get me wrong, I do love the Performante, it’s an incredible car to drive as you well know, but the SV is still at the top of the tree for me.
Will you be looking to get an SVJ when it comes out?
For the same reasons I'm not even entertaining the SVJ. Maybe when they put a decent gearbox in it I will revisit the aventador but until then its a posers car and not a drivers car ( contrary to belief I like to drive all my cars regularly )
Another McLaren and Performante spyder are next
RamboLambo said:
I love the looks but sadly not the drive of the SV. Its too big for me and sadly I'm a gearbox snob and that change is too slow and jerky for me.
For the same reasons I'm not even entertaining the SVJ. Maybe when they put a decent gearbox in it I will revisit the aventador but until then its a posers car and not a drivers car ( contrary to belief I like to drive all my cars regularly )
Another McLaren and Performante spyder are next
I'm with you, and that's after 2,000 miles in an SV. My Performante arrives next week. For the same reasons I'm not even entertaining the SVJ. Maybe when they put a decent gearbox in it I will revisit the aventador but until then its a posers car and not a drivers car ( contrary to belief I like to drive all my cars regularly )
Another McLaren and Performante spyder are next
RamboLambo said:
Should of kept the PERFORMANTE Tom, big mistake.
Aventador SV looks awesome and might be great posing around Harolds but sorry that gearbox and its size and weight are its biggest failing as a drivers car.
Performante is a proper drivers car, a first for Lamborghini
I don't know who Harold is, sorry.Aventador SV looks awesome and might be great posing around Harolds but sorry that gearbox and its size and weight are its biggest failing as a drivers car.
Performante is a proper drivers car, a first for Lamborghini
And nope, not for me given the choice of the two. HP is technically great like a lot of Audi's, and bashes great lap times, but does nothing for me in comparison to the SV; which is the type of car Lamborghini have built the brand on over past decades & people have been pinning to their walls. The former point is same to be said of the 720S & other McLarens, technically accomplished and fast, but I would probably never have another as left me cold/constantly sorting issues.
As for you going for a Performante spyder & saying it is the best thing since sliced bread? I find the car an odd one. For context here, would you see Porsche lopping the roof off a GT3RS? Did the ring time get done in the Spyder? In my warped opinion it's a flawed concept & is not something I would chuck £280k at, especially as they are MASS CHURNING Performantes out like no tomorrow. You also lose some usable space, if you are over 6'1 like me you will have to fold yourself in, performance is compromised, (marginal) and you lose that lovely engine bay. Also the lines are ruined, IMO.
There are so many and I could still factory order a coupe or Spyder for this year. Not good news.
But you're the expert, and each to their own.
HP Spyder is still an amazing car of course and if I couldn't afford an SV, and fitted in one, I would still consider it for my Knightsbridge laps. HP coupe would be first port of call though, and who knows once they dip a bit I may get in the pot.
Turbo cab said:
Try to ignore RamboNarcicist Tom,
He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
The SV feels like a step 'back' in some respects, (gearbox and infortainment only really) but in terms of an experience - the Perf isn't close. This is totally a personal view. The SV is mind bendlingly fast, prob more so in a straight line than the Perf, and an assault on all senses. I love it. The noise and presence I don't think will be replicated again, bar possibly the SVJ which I think may be less 'purist' than the SV.He's just bitter that his Perf is now under list and he's spent more time bragging to the neighbours and on pistonheads than actually driving it.
Congrats on the purchase by the way- The SV is definitely king, As you've probably had a go in the perf how does it stack up against it?
But this is what makes us all different. No right or wrong. The SV is also over £100k more than a Perf...
RamboLambo said:
About 20 mins and 10 miles before I knew it was too big and cumbersome and old tech for me.
Didn't need any longer or further TBH
Unless it was a hot day the car won't have been even up to temperature in that time/ distance, for Aventadors they need to be fully warmed up before they drive properly, tyres/suspension/engine/gearbox if you miss any of these then it makes the car much harder work. Didn't need any longer or further TBH
They were designed to work in Italy not the UK, hot weather and its like a different car.
I went from Aventador 2013 then std Huracan and from Huracan to Aventador S and then Performate my thoughts as follows.
Standard Aventador was fine, however my expectations were not that high, it did everything ok but the gearbox was woeful and had to go after probably 8-9k miles. Then onto the standard Huracan, for me this was a breath of fresh air, everything worked fine gearbox was fantastic and the engine glorious once I had added a race exhaust. 2 years of ownership is testament to this as I rarely keep my cars more than 12months.
So next was the S, I ordered mine new on the basis the gearbox would be a revelation unfortunately it wasn't. Yes it was better and even acceptable tootling around town at low speeds and for parking however at 9/10ths for me it was still that old lurching dinosaur, it is true to say at 10/10ths it is a little better but its like wrestling an alligator at that speed. Also the S has a thirst like nothing else I've driven, a tank of fuel could be consumed in 80-90 miles at just moderate road speeds, the cost not being an issue but the inconvenience was.
Onto the Performante, this for me is a fabulous car, ok it doesn't have the theatre of the scissor doors but unless its parked next to an Aventador the man in the street wouldn't know the difference. It's fuel consumption is almost frugal compared the to V12 and range in a different league.
So in summary- Aventador for show, Performante for Go!
Standard Aventador was fine, however my expectations were not that high, it did everything ok but the gearbox was woeful and had to go after probably 8-9k miles. Then onto the standard Huracan, for me this was a breath of fresh air, everything worked fine gearbox was fantastic and the engine glorious once I had added a race exhaust. 2 years of ownership is testament to this as I rarely keep my cars more than 12months.
So next was the S, I ordered mine new on the basis the gearbox would be a revelation unfortunately it wasn't. Yes it was better and even acceptable tootling around town at low speeds and for parking however at 9/10ths for me it was still that old lurching dinosaur, it is true to say at 10/10ths it is a little better but its like wrestling an alligator at that speed. Also the S has a thirst like nothing else I've driven, a tank of fuel could be consumed in 80-90 miles at just moderate road speeds, the cost not being an issue but the inconvenience was.
Onto the Performante, this for me is a fabulous car, ok it doesn't have the theatre of the scissor doors but unless its parked next to an Aventador the man in the street wouldn't know the difference. It's fuel consumption is almost frugal compared the to V12 and range in a different league.
So in summary- Aventador for show, Performante for Go!
MDL111 said:
RL quick question - as you owned a Scud - how do the SV and Scud gearboxes compare? I have never driven an SV, so would be interested to get a reference point (I am not a fan of Double-clutch boxes)
I've always said the F1 superfast II gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is the best I've ever driven including the DCT's in the 650S and Huracan Performante.It suits the car perfectly and whilst aggressive its fast enough not to be jerky.
SV change is slow and jerky in comparison and only gets marginally better the harder you drive it but around town at low speeds its a bit hesitant.
Can't say any of that about the scud
RamboLambo said:
MDL111 said:
RL quick question - as you owned a Scud - how do the SV and Scud gearboxes compare? I have never driven an SV, so would be interested to get a reference point (I am not a fan of Double-clutch boxes)
I've always said the F1 superfast II gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is the best I've ever driven including the DCT's in the 650S and Huracan Performante.It suits the car perfectly and whilst aggressive its fast enough not to be jerky.
SV change is slow and jerky in comparison and only gets marginally better the harder you drive it but around town at low speeds its a bit hesitant.
Can't say any of that about the scud
IMO!
RamboLambo said:
MDL111 said:
RL quick question - as you owned a Scud - how do the SV and Scud gearboxes compare? I have never driven an SV, so would be interested to get a reference point (I am not a fan of Double-clutch boxes)
I've always said the F1 superfast II gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is the best I've ever driven including the DCT's in the 650S and Huracan Performante.It suits the car perfectly and whilst aggressive its fast enough not to be jerky.
SV change is slow and jerky in comparison and only gets marginally better the harder you drive it but around town at low speeds its a bit hesitant.
Can't say any of that about the scud
Contiversial but I actually prefer the 430 scuderia to the 458 speciale.
Even more so when you factor in the price differential.
It sits nicely between the raw 360 Challenge Stradale with a slow gearbox and the more digital 458 speciale.
Agree 458 was big step up from standard F430 but not so the 430 Scuderia though if you like a racey feel.
Wish I had kept mine and have considered buying one back as actually feel they are Undervalued..
PS SV prices will fall with SVJ on way so wait a bit longer.
TGE Tom will be selling his soon, watch this space
Even more so when you factor in the price differential.
It sits nicely between the raw 360 Challenge Stradale with a slow gearbox and the more digital 458 speciale.
Agree 458 was big step up from standard F430 but not so the 430 Scuderia though if you like a racey feel.
Wish I had kept mine and have considered buying one back as actually feel they are Undervalued..
PS SV prices will fall with SVJ on way so wait a bit longer.
TGE Tom will be selling his soon, watch this space
RamboLambo said:
Contiversial but I actually prefer the 430 scuderia to the 458 speciale.
Even more so when you factor in the price differential.
It sits nicely between the raw 360 Challenge Stradale with a slow gearbox and the more digital 458 speciale.
Agree 458 was big step up from standard F430 but not so the 430 Scuderia though if you like a racey feel.
Wish I had kept mine and have considered buying one back as actually feel they are Undervalued..
PS SV prices will fall with SVJ on way so wait a bit longer.
TGE Tom will be selling his soon, watch this space
I actually prefer the 360 CS to the Scud tbh, its a car I wish I'd kept, felt lighter and more connected than the Scud imo.Even more so when you factor in the price differential.
It sits nicely between the raw 360 Challenge Stradale with a slow gearbox and the more digital 458 speciale.
Agree 458 was big step up from standard F430 but not so the 430 Scuderia though if you like a racey feel.
Wish I had kept mine and have considered buying one back as actually feel they are Undervalued..
PS SV prices will fall with SVJ on way so wait a bit longer.
TGE Tom will be selling his soon, watch this space
with regard 458 a great car and possibly one of the best looking modern Ferrari's. The 430 for me was a bit square!
Sorry ~OP gone off track.
TGETV said:
I don't know who Harold is, sorry.
And nope, not for me given the choice of the two. HP is technically great like a lot of Audi's, and bashes great lap times, but does nothing for me in comparison to the SV; which is the type of car Lamborghini have built the brand on over past decades & people have been pinning to their walls. The former point is same to be said of the 720S & other McLarens, technically accomplished and fast, but I would probably never have another as left me cold/constantly sorting issues.
As for you going for a Performante spyder & saying it is the best thing since sliced bread? I find the car an odd one. For context here, would you see Porsche lopping the roof off a GT3RS? Did the ring time get done in the Spyder? In my warped opinion it's a flawed concept & is not something I would chuck £280k at, especially as they are MASS CHURNING Performantes out like no tomorrow. You also lose some usable space, if you are over 6'1 like me you will have to fold yourself in, performance is compromised, (marginal) and you lose that lovely engine bay. Also the lines are ruined, IMO.
There are so many and I could still factory order a coupe or Spyder for this year. Not good news.
But you're the expert, and each to their own.
HP Spyder is still an amazing car of course and if I couldn't afford an SV, and fitted in one, I would still consider it for my Knightsbridge laps. HP coupe would be first port of call though, and who knows once they dip a bit I may get in the pot.
Audi has no involvement in Lamborghini, they may own the brand but they certainly do not have any influence other than from a financial perspective.And nope, not for me given the choice of the two. HP is technically great like a lot of Audi's, and bashes great lap times, but does nothing for me in comparison to the SV; which is the type of car Lamborghini have built the brand on over past decades & people have been pinning to their walls. The former point is same to be said of the 720S & other McLarens, technically accomplished and fast, but I would probably never have another as left me cold/constantly sorting issues.
As for you going for a Performante spyder & saying it is the best thing since sliced bread? I find the car an odd one. For context here, would you see Porsche lopping the roof off a GT3RS? Did the ring time get done in the Spyder? In my warped opinion it's a flawed concept & is not something I would chuck £280k at, especially as they are MASS CHURNING Performantes out like no tomorrow. You also lose some usable space, if you are over 6'1 like me you will have to fold yourself in, performance is compromised, (marginal) and you lose that lovely engine bay. Also the lines are ruined, IMO.
There are so many and I could still factory order a coupe or Spyder for this year. Not good news.
But you're the expert, and each to their own.
HP Spyder is still an amazing car of course and if I couldn't afford an SV, and fitted in one, I would still consider it for my Knightsbridge laps. HP coupe would be first port of call though, and who knows once they dip a bit I may get in the pot.
The ring time was set in a Spyder, and by a Porsche. 918 Spyder.
Good luck to you if you can get a spyder this year others might not be as fortunate.
Edited by d16rr on Friday 8th June 17:55
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