Anyone Else had this happen to their Maserati ?

Anyone Else had this happen to their Maserati ?

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maserati3200gt

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1,576 posts

235 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Just cleaned the 3200 and noticed a large crack on the Spoiler underneath the Rear Drivers Side Exhaust Box.
(Where the Exhaust box exits the rear End of the Car)
It has totally burned away the Paint and the Surround has cracked badly.

Is this a Warranty Job ? (still under Maserati warranty )

And is this a normal problem associated with the cars ?

Thanks for any more info on this problem.

mr_tony

6,328 posts

270 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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not aware of it as a 'normal' problem.
Does sound like somethign the warranty should cover though...

maserati3200gt

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235 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Its totally burnt the surrounding part of the bumper to the point where large cracks have appeared.

Just been told the Trident warranty does not cover this ! Really Peeved off now.

>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Friday 29th April 17:16

Just had a close look.
The Rear Box has completely blown and its burnt the Bumper.
Upon checking the Exhaust, it appears the Box has had some form of "Exhaust Sealant" applied around the Pipe so someone had previously known about an existing problem as this sealant is not on the other BackBox.(they also painted it Black)
So either the previous owner has made a botch job or the Main Dealer.
Eitherway the (Maserati) Dealer needs to explain to me why they let the car be sold in this condition.

Very Pssid Off
Now I cannot make the AutoItalia Day.


>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Friday 29th April 18:34

dutchy

76 posts

236 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Sorry to hear about the exhaust / bumper.
I've not heard of that either, certainly going to check my rear boxes closely now.

Shame about Autoitalia was looking forward to seeing you there.

Nigelo

293 posts

234 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Blown exhausts are normal wear and tear therefore not covered by Warranties. Painted sealant (possibly fire gum or similar??) however is another matter but depends on who did it, why and who knew about it.

FWIW, 3200 boxes on one side (not sure which but believe r/h/s) were in short supply for a while. This would suggest that the item has been temporarily repaired by someone but painting black afterwards smells of deception.

However, not necessarily supplying dealers fault as rear end of silencer cannot be properly inspected without removing bumper/spoiler and there is normally no reason why this should have been done for service / resale.

HTH

maserati3200gt

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Friday 29th April 2005
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Thanks for the info Nigelo.
Dutchy Sorry mate, The car if used will melt the Rear Bumper under the exhaust.
The AA said that had the car been maintained correctly by previous owner , as per the Service Schedule then this problem would have been picked up as it has taken some time happen.
The Whole Exhaust seems to have been replaced at some time except the back boxes but whoever has applied the "Sealant" is a Shark and Maserati are going to get it in the ear big time tomorrow.
I feel they should have either checked the car correctly or replaced the box.
Now I am going to invoice them for the respray and Fitting of my New Back Boxes which I ironically have on order.





>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Friday 29th April 23:09

Nigelo

293 posts

234 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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maserati3200gt said:
The Whole Exhaust seems to have been replaced at some time except the back boxes...

Are you sure about that? The rest of system is low grade stainless steel whilst back boxes are mild steel. Since the back boxes rot quite quickly, this can give the impression that the rest of the system is somewhat newer but in fact is rarely the case.

maserati3200gt

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235 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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Thats a good Point Nigelo.
The rest of the system looks new in comparison.

Is it common for the back boxes to rot in this way ?

bluesatin

3,114 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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ideal time for tubi!!!!

dutchy

76 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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I did get told the back boxes do not last long, mine are still originals though and they are nearly 4 years old. Will need replacing this year.
Does the rear bumper need to come off to change them them

maserati3200gt

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Saturday 30th April 2005
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dutchy said:
I did get told the back boxes do not last long, mine are still originals though and they are nearly 4 years old. Will need replacing this year.
Does the rear bumper need to come off to change them them



Yep , The rear bumper has to come off and The Main Dealer chargers for one hour on each exhaust at approx £89 + Vat to fit each box.


>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Saturday 30th April 09:18

maserati3200gt

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Sunday 1st May 2005
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Car been transported on 9th may to Main Dealer for warranty work and general service etc.
Still fuming about condition of exhaust at hand over during the purchase but lets wait and see what happens re : cost!
Having www.larinisystems.com exhaust fitted.
So will be adding clip to their website shortly.
P.S Excellent Service and Great Advice for what its worth and an excellent Price.(re : exhaust company)
Roll on the 11th May !
Hopefully my car will be repaired and new exhausts ready to roll!
P.S Collection and delivery on transporter is 20p per mile which seems good value subject to decidiing who made the chop shop job on my exhaust !

>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Sunday 1st May 00:57

maserati3200gt

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Friday 6th May 2005
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Dealer has agreed to repair damage caused by exhaust which is good news.
But the car is been collected and driven by one of their drivers and not been placed on transporter.

Total milage added onto my car will be 160 miles and I get charged £75 for the collection and delivey plus I get the fuel bill ! This aint right ! Surely ?
What do you guys think ?

craigw

12,248 posts

283 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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bit poor, mine is generally put on a low loader.

maserati3200gt

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Saturday 7th May 2005
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craig , would you allow them to drive 160 miles on your car ?
Im not happy about it as I thought the car was due to be transported on a carrier.

bad loser

259 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th May 2005
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When I had my previous car from Dick Lovett's, Swindon, they collected it from me and delivered it back putting about 260 miles on the clock.

They didn't charge anything for the collection, or fuel, and lent me an 04 4200 while they were doing the work.

Don't know if that's any use to you.

maserati3200gt

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Saturday 7th May 2005
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Hi Paul,
thanks for the info.
will speak to them today.
pete

bad loser

259 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th May 2005
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No probs, Pete.

One thing - go around the car before it goes and note every scuff and slight scratch (assuming you have any of course). Don't forget to include wheel trims.

Get the guy / girl who collects the car to sign agreement of scratches (or lack of).

When I got mine back it had a scuff on the nearside corner of the front bumper but as I was unsure I didn't follow it up. It wasn't bad, but you know what it's like with cars - you want them to be perfect and scratch free and I was disappointed that I hadn't been more careful before it went to the dealer.

Paul

>> Edited by bad loser on Saturday 7th May 12:41

maser_s2dpd

249 posts

230 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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The rear bumper does not need to be removed. If the car is jacked, the rear wheel and inside wheel-arch lining can be removed, then the exhausts slid in backwards.

I replaced mine with a Stainless Sports set from Quicksilver - less than half main dealer price and 25 year warranty - oh and the sound!

maserati3200gt

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Friday 13th May 2005
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Well Im in dispute with the Dealer!

The Car was sold to me with Full Service History by A Maserati Dealer.
I then find out the exhaust box has had a temporary repair either by previous owner or dealer. But the Dealer will not admit to this work.Even though they should have checked this prior to handing over the car (Imo)

The Rear Bumperwas burnt as a result of the Box Breaking up.


I have car collected for which they charge me £75 Inc Vat , adding 160 miles to the clock , using my tank of fuel and they will not replace the fuel or cover the collection charge !

The main reason the car was in the dealership was due to the shoody repair job to the backbox and while she is there I requested an oil change.
At this point they are stating that becuase an oil change was carried out , The Dealer is not liable to cover the costs of collection and fuel!
I think that I am entitled to these costs and to a certain extent the costs of labour to fit the new exhaust due to the cock up of the previous oversight ?

Oh and I booked the car in with 10 days notice stating the exhausts have to be replaced yet I am told today the car will not be ready because the exhaust support rings are on back order from Italy and will take to next wed to get them !
They have had a total of 17 days time to resolve this and I am now getting a little off!

What does anyone else think ?
Cheers for any help on this guys.



>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Friday 13th May 09:38