£200K to spend......suggestions on a post card?

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MDL111 said:

And to add to the cars being discussed - I was again very happy with the Scud - a lot of fun to drive on track - although Brno last weekend was a more entertaining track

You should really try one imo - I was not keen on a not-manual car before I bought it and even considered conversion to manual, but am really happy with the transmission

Out of the blue I noticed one in Porsche Cardiff of all places.

Going to pop in and take a gander when I'm back in the office next week.

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seawise said:

Nice conundrum to have!

I'm going to take a look at a 430 Scud tomorrow. I've always stayed away from Ferrari....probably an irrational fear of huge service and maintenance costs. Porsche has always been the relatively safe bet. This is probably my greatest issue with the Scuderia - they're 10 years old! I don't really want to be driving it with the constant worry of something big going "pop".

Not being a particular fan of Red Ferrari....this caught my eye. Great spec and slightly more understated in Silver.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

I've driven the 991.1 RS around the track and from my perspective it was a step up from the 991.2 GT3 and to be honest, at broadly similar costs (within £20K), I want the RS purely because....it's an RS My initial thought was a 997.2 GT3 RS and maybe that'll be one for next time.

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PompeyReece said:

Supercars break and when they do, they cost a lot - nature of the beast. If reliability is of primary concern, have you considered an Audi R8?

Never.....too big, too heavy....not for me.

488....4 year warranty, 7 year service plan so not an issue. My slight concern was with a 10 year old Scud. It's a different ball game. Still, I'm viewing one tomorrow.

I had a 650S so am aware of supercar running costs. Servicing/maintenance costs aren't a problem and again this car was under warranty.

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hunter 66 said:

Having just moved back from a Fez to a Porsche, running costs are an issue with an older Ferrari .

This is why, if I go Ferrari, I'm edging towards a newer car.

It's going to hard to beat the all-round ability of the RS though - supercar or otherwise.

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Question on the 430 Scud....

How many U.K. rhd units were produced?

I’m not against lhd, especially as it’s a paddle shift. Any issues with buying a lhd example?

Didn’t get an opportunity to view the one I had intended to today but hopefully tomorrow.

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jazzybee said:

I think this would be one of my choices

Beautiful.

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Checked out the Scud this afternoon. Looked a very clean car. A few chips on the internal carbon door panel at the edge. Great sound on start-up.

Now awaiting some info on servicing prior to it arriving in the UK in 2015. It's had a health check by Ferrari Swindon a month ago which identified some very minor issues. Clutch at 4% wear, brakes 2% - it's done 3000 miles.

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No....if the history checks out I'll pop back for a spin.

Question....how are they with speed bumps and awkward garages? My 996.2 GT3 always scrapes the splitter getting into the garage - which is why it's not on the car right now! No issues at all with a 991 GTS (-20mm).

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RamboLambo said:

White one at Porsche Cardiff by any chance ?

Nice car, Low mileage, LHD but no stripes.

Personally would pay £20k more for the 4k miles RHD black one

Yes, do you know the car?

I quite like the simplicity without stripes and I do like white. £180k feels like a lot for LHD so I’d want a few pounds off if the rest is good.

The car is on SOR and apparently "priced to sell". Of course, with respect, that's what all car dealers say

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MDL111 said:

I like cars without stripes

Not sure I would pay a premium for such low mileage though - that’ll erode quickly if you drive it a lot (and it is difficult not to imo)

Edit: Never had trouble with scraping - much more clearance (or at least fewer issues) than my GT2 had

Agreed on the mileage premium but it seems to be reflected in the overall condition.

My 996 GT3 is marginally lower than my old 996 GT2. Good to know that the Scud is less problematic.

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There's a 4000 mile LHD Scud advertised on PH at The Octane Collection. That's up at £154K. Is this more representitive of the real value of the white car?

I know values are a contentious and somewhat subjective question but very relevant when considering a purchase.

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Wilmslowboy said:

I'm currently in the same position, and come to the conclusion anything and (perhaps everything) at this price point is on to lose £30k to £50k in the next 2 years - including (perhaps especially) froffy Ferrari's like the Scud etc

So options are either hold out (and have nothing) or buy the best car to enjoy...

After 2 Mclarens (and the cost of the last 12 months being close to £30k) ...I thought I had scratched that itch.........but I'm now finding myslef pondeing a 3rd, ... 720s - has to be a best bang for buck at £200k ??

Other options for me are 991 GT3 RS (at £150k if i can find one) or a GT4 at half that.
All will lose 20% (give or take) in the next 2 years - so down to which gives the most fizz to bucks ratio.

PS - If there is a small correction, a Performante could drop into budget.....

The only McLaren I'm semi considering is the 675LT - that will need to clubbed down on price over the next few months. Similar story with the Performante. Both a really nice idea but will require a small shift in the market to make viable.

The 488 is appealing as is the Scud but as of right now I'm still most likely to jump into a 991.1 RS if I can find the right car. Hoping for a nice PTS

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KenC said:

Very wooly words about the service history on this one. Only ever been serviced by Ferrari - could mean only one service. Serviced on arrival into the UK - that was nearly two years ago. Service history included - a bad history is a history.

Clearly that needs to be checked out.

It's had two services at Ferrari Swindon since entering the UK - I viewed the details of those yesterday via the online system at Dick Lovett Porsche in Cardiff. I'm awaiting clarification of the history prior to this although was advised that it has a "full service history".

We'll see.

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Really interesting - thanks

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End of 2017 there was a 3000 mile red LHD Scud at Dick Lovett for £168,990. I don't think prices have increased since then?

Maybe a bargaining chip to use against their white car.

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I actually don't mind a LHD car. I used to have a lefty 997.2 GT3 that I bought from Porsche Antwerp. Admitedly I never quite became comfortable about shifting with my right hand in that car but no such issue with the Scud.

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355fiorano said:

If you do get the 3k mile car do ask for them to check for these perishable items. As its a sale or return (my car was theirs) it may be different in terms of how much they are willing to fix or warrant the car as I suspect the owner will have to take that hit.

Great call...if I get that far! Still waiting on service info.

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Ok....I have details which I'd like a little feedback on.

Not a full service history. The only partial excuse is the low mileage.

PDI'd in Luxembourg in May 2009.

Service May 2012 at 578 miles.

Service August 2015 at 1659 miles.

Service February 2017 at 2855 miles.

Service April 2018 at 2966 miles.


I'm assuming, if I buy the car, this will be picked apart by any future potenial purchaser?

Edited by m33ufo on Friday 3rd August 14:33

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Appreciate the feedback - thank you

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The Surveyor said:

Ferruccio said:

In the real world, why would it matter?

In the real world, it doesn't mater at all.

In the twisted 'collectors car' world anything less that 'perfect' has a negative impact on the cars value, if basic things like actually driving and enjoying the car knock lumps off the investment value, failing to follow the manufacturers servicing recommendations will also be seen as a just another negative.

Nail hit squarely on the head!

And come on, if you own a car like this, why wouldn't you get it serviced annually - even if it has only done a few hundred miles?