Suggestions for a first supercar

[MKnight702]

Juno said:

Porsche GT3
Nissan GTR NISMO Very Rare
Audi V10 Manual

All the above should have good residuals and be reasonable to run!

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

[The Selfish Gene]

Bispal said:

said things about the McLaren.........

I'm just looking at an MP4/12...............is that the confirmed number Bispal? 5k per year plus 1k service? Is that mostly warranty repeats?

[Mario149]

MKnight702 said:

Juno said:

Porsche GT3
Nissan GTR NISMO Very Rare
Audi V10 Manual

All the above should have good residuals and be reasonable to run!

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

How does the Ford GT fit into that?

[av185]

MKnight702 said:

Juno said:

Porsche GT3
Nissan GTR NISMO Very Rare
Audi V10 Manual

All the above should have good residuals and be reasonable to run!

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

So you prefer some kind of reaction in the pub rather than the actual driving experience then.

Rather shallow but each to their own.

[Juno]

av185 said:

MKnight702 said:

Juno said:

Porsche GT3
Nissan GTR NISMO Very Rare
Audi V10 Manual

All the above should have good residuals and be reasonable to run!

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

So you prefer some kind of reaction in the pub rather than the actual driving experience then.

Rather shallow but each to their own.

BUT they are about a supercas it gets on theOP’s budget and residual fears!!! They all drive super as well!

[RSbandit]

MKnight702 said:

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

so you go around dropping your keys on the bar seeking adulation? sounds a bit sad

[MKnight702]

Mario149 said:

How does the Ford GT fit into that?

The clue is in the name! Again, not a Supercar. The original was a race car, the reboot is not.

[MKnight702]

av185 said:

So you prefer some kind of reaction in the pub rather than the actual driving experience then.

Rather shallow but each to their own.

Absolutely not, but the modern obsession for drivers aids has put paid to most of actual driving experience anyway. What I was trying to express was that pure top speed and acceleration do not a Supercar make.

[m4tti]

MKnight702 said:

The clue is in the name! Again, not a Supercar. The original was a race car, the reboot is not.

Apart from at Le Mans

[Nano2nd]

MKnight702 said:

But not one is a Supercar. There is more to a Supercar than being fast and sounding good. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify. Yes, they can make a great, ultra fast, sports car that would pee all over a Lamborghini round a track but it would never have the same impact when you drop the keys on the bar.

not this s**t again - haven't we had the "yet another person who's never owned anything close to a supercar, but has strong opinions on what is or isn't a supercar" thread this month already.

[av185]

MKnight702 said:

it should be all about going as fast as possible

[av185]

MKnight702 said:

What I was trying to express was that pure top speed and acceleration do not a Supercar make.

[m4tti]

av185 said:

MKnight702 said:

it should be all about going as fast as possible

MKnight702 said:

What I was trying to express was that pure top speed and acceleration do not a Supercar make.

Edited by m4tti on Monday 10th September 22:40

[Mario149]

MKnight702 said:

Mario149 said:

How does the Ford GT fit into that?

The clue is in the name! Again, not a Supercar. The original was a race car, the reboot is not.

I think you might find yourself basically alone in that premise!

[hunter 66]

Is a Tesla a supercar as it sure is fast ...... faster than most supercars . In fact the next gen EV's are going to make the current supercars slow ....
So then a Supercar will be classified as a car that is slower

[isaldiri]

MKnight702 said:

. IMO a supercar is about theatre, it must look like it is going 100mph when parked, it should be all about going as fast as possible not compromised for use every day or the odd trip to the shops and for me the "brand" must be super too, so the likes of BMW, Porsche, Nissan and Audi can never produce a Supercar as their stable mates mean that the "brand" doesn't qualify.

Ok. So what would you call a 918?

[Taffy66]

isaldiri said:

Ok. So what would you call a 918?

A Hypercar.?

[WCZ]

an ultima gtr gets as much attention, looks absolutely crazy, has massive power and capability - surely it's a supercar

[Mario149]

WCZ said:

an ultima gtr gets as much attention, looks absolutely crazy, has massive power and capability - surely it's a supercar

For me it's a track car, not a supercar, but that's no bad thing

[Behemoth]

Nano2nd said:

not this s**t again - haven't we had the "yet another person who's never owned anything close to a supercar, but has strong opinions on what is or isn't a supercar" thread this month already.

I agree it gets discussed a lot. The conclusion is clearly that it's an emotional term as much as a rational one. It's also a term that encompasses different cars in different eras, as technology and branding are both moving targets.