buying R8

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Trev450

6,322 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
Trev450 said:
I swapped mine for the passive ones fitted to the Plus model. You also need a KW delete module to prevent error messages but even with that the cost is still around half of the magrides and they don't fail prematurely.
did you have 1 go, or all seem about to be on way out ?
what are passive ones ?
I will see what mechanic says as might be lucky , but looking on black side could be £2k to change then ?
Both of my rears failed at around the same time and although the fronts were fine I elected to change all four.

The passives are conventional coilover dampers. They are slightly stiffer than the magrides when in 'soft' mode but are by no means too hard.

If you stay with the magrides you are looking at about £1K a corner to replace.

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
As Trev said the lights come on automatically - I think in the menus you can specify how long for. If you have them, look at the engine and the lights are clearly visible on either side of the engine. They come on/off when you lock/unlock the car.

All mag ride failures I've read about are progressive i.e. the oil starts to leak but the shock still works but over time they get worse eventually "bottoming out" which could be the "clunk" you witness. If it got to that stage, you need it sorted now.

Alternatives are coil overs, replacements from Audi (£1k each) or a company in Poland refurbish them with a 1 year warranty for 1/2 that cost. All down to you and how deep your pockets are but I'd say 23k is a good innings for mag ride!
would you stick with mag or change to coil over ?

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Trev450 said:
Both of my rears failed at around the same time and although the fronts were fine I elected to change all four.

The passives are conventional coilover dampers. They are slightly stiffer than the magrides when in 'soft' mode but are by no means too hard.

If you stay with the magrides you are looking at about £1K a corner to replace.
you went for coil rather then mag again then .do audi do it or mechanic ?

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
you went for coil rather then mag again then .do audi do it or mechanic ?
these are on e bay
BC Racing BR (RN) Series Coilovers for Audi R8 (07 onwards) Incl MAG Ride delete
they are £1200 , or a guy has got 2nd hand mag wants £600 for 4 , 1 leaks but other 3 seem ok he says .

Trev450

6,322 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
you went for coil rather then mag again then .do audi do it or mechanic ?
I had my local tuning shop fit them. Half the hourly rate of Audi.

PompeyReece

1,494 posts

89 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
would you stick with mag or change to coil over ?
I'd stick with mag ride, probably go for refurbished ones from Poland as a start. My car is stock and want to keep it that way.

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
I'd stick with mag ride, probably go for refurbished ones from Poland as a start. My car is stock and want to keep it that way.
anyone got link to the polish site ?
what sort of price are they & will they last , prob only give 1 year so not long to be faced with problem again ?
I am worried if I fit coilovers that the ride will be hard , I wont track car so I just want a nice soft ride , wont need to adjust just comfy ?

PompeyReece

1,494 posts

89 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
anyone got link to the polish site ?
what sort of price are they & will they last , prob only give 1 year so not long to be faced with problem again ?
I am worried if I fit coilovers that the ride will be hard , I wont track car so I just want a nice soft ride , wont need to adjust just comfy ?
https://nagengast.pl/en/about/?wmc-currency=EUR

Prices are on the webpage. Also worth noting that I think you need to return your damaged shocks as part of the process i.e. you buy replacements with the pricing including a returnable deposit, they ship them to you, you fit them, you send your old ones back, they refund your deposit.

I think you need to be wary of the internet projecting a true representation of real life. A warranty isn't an indication of how long a product will last - it'll be down to you, how you drive etc. Personally I'm not worried about them lasting a year - had my car for 3 years, non of them have leaked so far.

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
https://nagengast.pl/en/about/?wmc-currency=EUR

Prices are on the webpage. Also worth noting that I think you need to return your damaged shocks as part of the process i.e. you buy replacements with the pricing including a returnable deposit, they ship them to you, you fit them, you send your old ones back, they refund your deposit.

I think you need to be wary of the internet projecting a true representation of real life. A warranty isn't an indication of how long a product will last - it'll be down to you, how you drive etc. Personally I'm not worried about them lasting a year - had my car for 3 years, non of them have leaked so far.
well that's a good hint that they are good , I will look them up ,thanks
I just don't want to get some other shock that's good on race track but horrible on our pot ridden roads , I wont track car ever ..

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
well that's a good hint that they are good , I will look them up ,thanks
I just don't want to get some other shock that's good on race track but horrible on our pot ridden roads , I wont track car ever ..
bloody hell the price is confusing , I know they refund so that don't worry me , how much total for 4 roughly if you don't mind will it cost ?
cheers

200Plus Club

10,752 posts

278 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Carbon engine bay covers and internal carbon was I believe around £5-6k optioned so that's a Nice Spec :-)
Get your shock sorted and Enjoy! Check that a.c. works though and use it regularly.

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
bloody hell the price is confusing , I know they refund so that don't worry me , how much total for 4 roughly if you don't mind will it cost ?
cheers
think I have done conversion about £1600 for 4 but don't know if this delivered ? the deposit don't matter as you get that back anyway , there is 4 2nd hand on ebay for £600 (1 is leaking the others old !) but could buy & send them off .

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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200Plus Club said:
Carbon engine bay covers and internal carbon was I believe around £5-6k optioned so that's a Nice Spec :-)
Get your shock sorted and Enjoy! Check that a.c. works though and use it regularly.
will do thanks , that's nice option to have , bloody expensive …
just this mag ride to sort now ...

PompeyReece

1,494 posts

89 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
think I have done conversion about £1600 for 4 but don't know if this delivered ? the deposit don't matter as you get that back anyway , there is 4 2nd hand on ebay for £600 (1 is leaking the others old !) but could buy & send them off .
Looks like you need to email them to request each shock.

However each shock is 490 Euros plus 400 Euros per shock as the deposit - so you pay 890 Euros per shock and get 400 back when you return the old one.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
As Trev said the lights come on automatically - I think in the menus you can specify how long for. If you have them, look at the engine and the lights are clearly visible on either side of the engine. They come on/off when you lock/unlock the car.

All mag ride failures I've read about are progressive i.e. the oil starts to leak but the shock still works but over time they get worse eventually "bottoming out" which could be the "clunk" you witness. If it got to that stage, you need it sorted now.

Alternatives are coil overs, replacements from Audi (£1k each) or a company in Poland refurbish them with a 1 year warranty for 1/2 that cost. All down to you and how deep your pockets are but I'd say 23k is a good innings for mag ride!
The lights are controlled by a button to the right of the steering wheel in my car, that toggles ‘se me home lights’ on and off, and I think you set the delay in the binnacle settings menu

I know a shop that will fabricate the 5 engine bay pieces for you out of real cf for £2500. You can then take your old ones off and keep them and probably resell the cf ones separately when you sell the car and probably get your money back-ish

ian-163jt

Original Poster:

239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
Looks like you need to email them to request each shock.

However each shock is 490 Euros plus 400 Euros per shock as the deposit - so you pay 890 Euros per shock and get 400 back when you return the old one.
yes about right then £1600 for 4 , they sent your deposit back all ok then ? its either that or coil overs for £1200 ? just worried that the ride may be harsh.
did you think about changing or did you want to stick with originals from the off ?

ian-163jt

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239 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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jakesmith said:
The lights are controlled by a button to the right of the steering wheel in my car, that toggles ‘se me home lights’ on and off, and I think you set the delay in the binnacle settings menu

I know a shop that will fabricate the 5 engine bay pieces for you out of real cf for £2500. You can then take your old ones off and keep them and probably resell the cf ones separately when you sell the car and probably get your money back-ish
to be honest I wont be selling this , I love it . looks so good / nice ride / fast enough (not super car quick but ok for our roads !) will sound good when I get my new exhaust fitted (maybe should have kept the £2700 from exhaust for suspension!)


PompeyReece

1,494 posts

89 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
yes about right then £1600 for 4 , they sent your deposit back all ok then ? its either that or coil overs for £1200 ? just worried that the ride may be harsh.
did you think about changing or did you want to stick with originals from the off ?
Just to be clear my mag rides have never failed in over 3 years so I've not used the Polish company myself. However I have read a few posts from owners who did use them and all feedback has been positive.

As said previously coil overs aren't for me.

Trev450

6,322 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
yes about right then £1600 for 4 , they sent your deposit back all ok then ? its either that or coil overs for £1200 ? just worried that the ride may be harsh.
did you think about changing or did you want to stick with originals from the off ?
The BC coilovers you've been looking at are from Taiwan and not of a good quality. This is reflected in their price and also the ride quality. If you decide to stay with the magrides, I still have the ones I took off mine and would sell them for a reasonable amount. email me if you're interested. trevor.hartland@btinternet.com

vanman1936

759 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Anyone seen / know this car....price has trickled down a fair bit

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...