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Would depend. Theoretically shocks can be measured or “dynoed”. If it the opposite shock was behaving within permitted tolerance then why not just change the one.
One could still be like new, the other have a manufacturing fault. I can pretty much guarantee that Audi would just replace the one faulty unit.
And just to add, 1k for an active shock is pretty bagain-ous, look up what a set of Ohlins bog standard shocks cost.
One could still be like new, the other have a manufacturing fault. I can pretty much guarantee that Audi would just replace the one faulty unit.
And just to add, 1k for an active shock is pretty bagain-ous, look up what a set of Ohlins bog standard shocks cost.
Edited by m4tti on Friday 13th December 20:32
m4tti said:
And just to add, 1k for an active shock is pretty bagain-ous, look up what a set of Ohlins bog standard shocks cost.
The Audi magnetic dampers are a brilliant concept and are great when working correctly, but given their propensity for premature failure, I would not consider them to be 'bargain-ous'.Edited by m4tti on Friday 13th December 20:32
At least Ohlins don't usually fail within 20k miles.
Edited by Trev450 on Friday 13th December 21:24
m4tti said:
jakesmith said:
Passives are £500 fitted including VAT
They’ll likely not be comparable to the actives. And 4K for shocks on a 120k car is really next to nothing.
I didn't rate skyhook on my Maserati
I didn't miss PASM on my Boxster (had it on my other Boxster & 997)
I don't really know what difference it makes but I'm certainly not bothered to find out at that sort of price & unreliability, I searched out a car without the system deliberately
My car was about £35k and I can afford £2k-£3k a year maintenance but don't want to have to drop £6k on active dampers and then worry about them failing again
Trev450 said:
The Audi magnetic dampers are a brilliant concept and are great when working correctly, but given their propensity for premature failure, I would not consider them to be 'bargain-ous'.
At least Ohlins don't usually fail within 20k miles.
Very true trev. I need to look into exactly why they are failing and what would be required to make them more resilient. At least Ohlins don't usually fail within 20k miles.
Edited by Trev450 on Friday 13th December 21:24
jakesmith said:
My car wasn't speced with mag ride
I didn't rate skyhook on my Maserati
I didn't miss PASM on my Boxster (had it on my other Boxster & 997)
I don't really know what difference it makes but I'm certainly not bothered to find out at that sort of price & unreliability, I searched out a car without the system deliberately
My car was about £35k and I can afford £2k-£3k a year maintenance but don't want to have to drop £6k on active dampers and then worry about them failing again
Mag ride is awesome. At least the Nissan equivalent. If you can afford 3k then you’d be fine .. 4K one year 600 the next. I didn't rate skyhook on my Maserati
I didn't miss PASM on my Boxster (had it on my other Boxster & 997)
I don't really know what difference it makes but I'm certainly not bothered to find out at that sort of price & unreliability, I searched out a car without the system deliberately
My car was about £35k and I can afford £2k-£3k a year maintenance but don't want to have to drop £6k on active dampers and then worry about them failing again
m4tti said:
Trev450 said:
The Audi magnetic dampers are a brilliant concept and are great when working correctly, but given their propensity for premature failure, I would not consider them to be 'bargain-ous'.
At least Ohlins don't usually fail within 20k miles.
Very true trev. I need to look into exactly why they are failing and what would be required to make them more resilient. At least Ohlins don't usually fail within 20k miles.
Edited by Trev450 on Friday 13th December 21:24
yes guys fully understand all your thoughts which help/ thanks - ..
my views/ position is …..
at the end of the day its not a " super car" its a well nice sports / usable car …...
my views/ position is …..
- I don't want a hard /racetrack ride as I use on roads .
- I think from what I read that the mag ride is pretty clever / soft and adapts to road / or fast road well .
- don't like that they fail after 23k miles
- I don't like the fact if I replace the one that is clanking (if it is that ) the others can go soon .
- I don't want to spend on something that's not a good fix .
at the end of the day its not a " super car" its a well nice sports / usable car …...
Mag ride when it's working was awesome for pressing on you could really feel the car work.
No reason why you can't just swap one faulty unit altho pairs in theory always better but it's unlikely they will be high mileage cars generally. The rebuilt units don't look bad value. Mag ride and a.c. compressor were the main concerns for v8 owners but you'd be unlucky to get both.
No reason why you can't just swap one faulty unit altho pairs in theory always better but it's unlikely they will be high mileage cars generally. The rebuilt units don't look bad value. Mag ride and a.c. compressor were the main concerns for v8 owners but you'd be unlucky to get both.
Durzel said:
R8 shares the same magnetorheological dampers as the 458. I had to replace all 4 (2 had failed, misting) on mine after ~9k miles.
Definitely be wary of them if your car has them.
This is the first time I've heard of these dampers failing on anything other than the R8. Not good news for anyone but encouraging to hear that it's not just Audi that suffers from premature failure of these.Definitely be wary of them if your car has them.
Trev450 said:
This is the first time I've heard of these dampers failing on anything other than the R8. Not good news for anyone but encouraging to hear that it's not just Audi that suffers from premature failure of these.
Had a look on the Polish website - they offer shock servicing for numerous manufacturers including Ferrari, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Mercedes, Porsche, Tesla, VW and about another 10 companies including Audi obviously.Guess that doesn't indicate how often they fail but surely indicates they do fail?
PompeyReece said:
Trev450 said:
This is the first time I've heard of these dampers failing on anything other than the R8. Not good news for anyone but encouraging to hear that it's not just Audi that suffers from premature failure of these.
Had a look on the Polish website - they offer shock servicing for numerous manufacturers including Ferrari, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Mercedes, Porsche, Tesla, VW and about another 10 companies including Audi obviously.Guess that doesn't indicate how often they fail but surely indicates they do fail?
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