buying R8

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ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Oh I wouldn't risk a golf - the 2.0 TFSI can suffer the same bore scoring as the 997, the DSG gearboxes suffer mechatronic failures costing £5k to sort, the 1.6TSI engines fail, or you get carjacked!

And the RS4 / R8 coking issue is nothing to worry about really - £500 every 40,000 miles
ha ha the golf sounds a big risk , safer with r8

ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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ok I am near Portsmouth so will see if they have this "master tech"
good news guys & thanks for help ,tried to not do my normal & just buy, but I have again without seeing it !!
however I did listen & spent more than I should to get a safer bet in long run & got it off dealer …
will pick it up in couple of weeks ..
will keep you posted ….
what is a good exhaust for these as don't sound that good to be honest , do any come up for sale on here used ?
I have been told quicksilver / capristo / miltec ??????
can you get the original exhaust modified to sound better as that what I done on my 997, they altered it so it sounds like its in sport mode all the time , very nice job..

ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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Triple Six said:
Not sure if it's a little far but there is a garage in Poole called Mastertech.

They looked after my car in it's previous ownership and the bloke I bought the car from spoke very highly of them. I believe it was set up by two ex-mastertechs.
thanks , that's only an hour, so worth it to get right service , its hard as my car has full audi s.h but we all know , that's not always the best , but people like it for re-sale (as I did!!)

ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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200Plus Club said:
Mine had an eisenmann switchable and it sounded absolutely awesome. Stock noise closed, hells gates open in bypass :-)
what sort of money are these ?
is it a hard process to fit , I have seen pics of lots of parts on the floor !!!

ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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akadk said:
Picked mine up yesterday

Not a supercar mind ??

wow lovely colour , what is that called is it Audi colour ? what colour interior ?

ian-163jt

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Sunday 1st December 2019
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Trev450 said:
Congrats - will look forward to hearing more about it.
Capristo are about the best you can get but at a price. Quicksilver are getting good reviews and are quite reasonably priced. There is a simple 'disconnect' mod you can do to the stock exhaust that keeps the valves open permanently, but doesn't make a huge difference.,

Edited by Trev450 on Sunday 1st December 19:47
there is another one called "stalis" or something ? also scorpion? , soooooo many .
yes I think I will change from stock as not enough difference , I like to have a nice sound otherwise I would have got I8 ha ha

ian-163jt

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Monday 2nd December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Top gear
Milltek
Quicksilver
Stasis
Scorpion
Akrapovitch
Tubi
Capristo
thanks is that in order of what you recommend ?

ian-163jt

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Monday 2nd December 2019
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200Plus Club said:
https://www.eisenmann.co.uk/R8

More than I thought £3.3k plus fitting...
wont be getting that then ………
so expensive , that must be the most expensive as I have seen brand new miltec for £1700 + fitting

ian-163jt

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Monday 2nd December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
Congrats. My R8 has just passed its MOT at Audi Portsmouth so they are an accredited centre.

JKM in Portsmouth fitted a Milltek to my friends R8 and they’re a little closer to home.
oh that's good about audi , was service good ?
I will give jkm a ring , thanks , what exhaust did he get & cost ?


ian-163jt

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Monday 2nd December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Ricky used to do a deal where if you bought a Quicksilver system from him he’d fit it free. Not sure if that’s still going or not but worth an ask and got to be the cheapest way of getting one fitted
ok , I messaged him about looking when buying but he don't go to houses anymore it has to go to him … so didn't bother .

ian-163jt

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Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Not really - I've just heard that Miltek isn't the best quality
I would want to hear the others n the metal before buying, like I said before it isn't an amazing sounding engine compared to others and I wouldn't want to spend £7000 on it if it wasn't going to be a significant improvement over the cheaper options
I think it really makes sense to buy a car with one fitted if you can find one - much better value
it seems you can most supplied and fitted for about £2700 (there are the more expensive ones like premium models) but I may look for 2nd hand one as few on e bay , not in a rush , the trouble is when looking for car its hard enough , then trying to get the right exhaust / colour / owners etc for the sake of £2700 and at least its new !
just have to get some overtime in & try to not let wife see parcel , its hard enough hiding the car in storage as it is …...

ian-163jt

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Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
Their customer service was fine but they didn't do an actual car service, just an MOT and a health check which came up 100% perfect. Ricky does my annual service however he gets Swindon Audi to do the MOT so may as well get my MOT done locally.

He got a Milltek but no idea on cost, sorry.

Edited by PompeyReece on Monday 2nd December 22:27
so you prefer Ricky to audi for service ?
you are near me, so how do you get up to Ricky get service done & home as long way ?

ian-163jt

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Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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jakesmith said:
I’d always go for a good Indy over a main dealer
Unless you have something incredibly rare where the history is part of its value then why pay more
Waste of money

Just got my Smart in for some warranty work that they’re refusing to cover- failed door lock on 3.5 year old main dealer car under used car warranty. They want £120 diagnostic fee now the repair isn’t covered. Joke. This is my typical main dealer experience, inflexibility around processed and making as much money as possible

Audi are better at this sort of thing IME but still, unnecessarily expensive
hence the name "main stealer" ha ha

ian-163jt

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Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
Yes, my car's been to Ricky for both my services, again early next year too. I've had a poor experience with a franchise when buying my R8 (they lied through their front teeth on the condition of the car which was picked up on the PPI) and also with dealers (two health checks within 20 miles of each other, two different results and associated costs!).

However must say I got a better feeling from Audi at most recent health check/MOT which seemed consistent and accurate with Ricky's comments of the car in the past. Also you tend not to get a documented health check with some indies so the "MOT at the dealer, service at an indie" arrangement is good for me.

I drive up to Ricky's and coincide it with a shopping trip to the outlet centre or friends with the fiancee. Last two times it's involved two trips (there and back) so might see if I can wangle it in a day trip next year although depends if I want any other work doing.

Edited by PompeyReece on Tuesday 3rd December 11:06
yes its hard when long way , if something goes wrong you are stuck....
wife not to happy with me as it is so don't really want to get her stranded up there .

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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update guys …….
got my 2008 , auto , 23k miles new / 1 owner / full Audi 1 dealer s/h , its atlas grey / grey leather ..
I listened to some advice from you guys ,so I spent more than I wanted to get this one £34k , didn't get it checked as hoping from the above details that should be good , as looks mint to me , even engine bay polished , got it from really nice guy so fingers crossed , drove it home 250 miles & lovey , gearbox that I have been told avoid was great , you can use gearstick or paddles for a bit more control but auto was good (couple of jerky shifts but you not seen my manual changes ha ha ) and no heavy clutch foot in the traffic ,its completely standard & I know that they sound a bit muted for a lovely engine, so I have got a new exhaust to go on this week ….
have a few questions guys that I should have checked but never !!!!!!
Have all the cars got mag ride suspension ?
there seems to be a slight clonking on front right when I go over pot holes so this is being looked at (don't know if its the dreaded mag ride if I have it ?)
what are good extras to have on these or are they all the same ???
I have carbon blades & carbon engine bay / full grey leather seats / sat nav / parking sensors / electric seats .
Is that just standard ?
Also where car low mileage, the guy seems to get serviced every year regardless of miles ? is that normal?
will put some pics up later in week as car gone straight to garage for exhaust & clonking

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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ian-163jt said:
update guys …….
got my 2008 , auto , 23k miles new / 1 owner / full Audi 1 dealer s/h , its atlas grey / grey leather ..
I listened to some advice from you guys ,so I spent more than I wanted to get this one £34k , didn't get it checked as hoping from the above details that should be good , as looks mint to me , even engine bay polished , got it from really nice guy so fingers crossed , drove it home 250 miles & lovey , gearbox that I have been told avoid was great , you can use gearstick or paddles for a bit more control but auto was good (couple of jerky shifts but you not seen my manual changes ha ha ) and no heavy clutch foot in the traffic ,its completely standard & I know that they sound a bit muted for a lovely engine, so I have got a new exhaust to go on this week ….
have a few questions guys that I should have checked but never !!!!!!
Have all the cars got mag ride suspension ?
there seems to be a slight clonking on front right when I go over pot holes so this is being looked at (don't know if its the dreaded mag ride if I have it ?)
what are good extras to have on these or are they all the same ???
I have carbon blades & carbon engine bay / full grey leather seats / sat nav / parking sensors / electric seats .
Is that just standard ?
Also where car low mileage, the guy seems to get serviced every year regardless of miles ? is that normal?
will put some pics up later in week as car gone straight to garage for exhaust & clonking
forgot add some other bits it has
heated / electric seats both side / carbon inside / cruise

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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PompeyReece said:
Congrats.

Mag ride was optional on the V8, standard on the V10 - if you have it there is a button to firm it up near the gear stick - no button = no mag ride

Clonking could be the mag ride bottoming out - if so, it needs to be done ASAP - £1k a corner from Audi I believe.

Not all the same although some kit standard. Good extras on the v8 were the lighting illuminating the engine bay, reversing camera and B&O sound system.

Carbon was not standard on the v8 so optional

Annual servicing - up to you but I consider it a good idea on such a car. I do 3,000 miles PA and get mine services every 12-15 months.

Hope the lack of an inspection doesn't bite you on the arse!
thanks ,
it has B& O and mag ride , will check the light for engine bay , do you switch it on or is it on all the time ?
no camera (so looks like that is the only extra its not got !)
yes hopefully no biting , but the shock is bit of a pain , not very good to go after 23k miles, maybe something else but he's checking this week ….
I see a lot of people change mag ride to coil overs , perhaps this is the way to go if it is that ?

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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BlackR8 said:
Congrats on the purchase. On the R-Tronic I heard that a TCU tune makes a big difference on the Gen 1 and it is now fairly reasonable in terms of cost to get installed.

If you have the shock 'firm up' button then yes it has Magride, if not then you have standard shocks. I recall its the last button on the left below the gearstick.

If you do have magride, the symptoms you describe does sound like a leaky shock so best to get it checked asap. They are not cheap to replace.

Make sure you check that the aircon is working well. If not it could be a simple top up, or worst case a failed compressor which I understand is a very labour intensive job to sort.

On the Audi Dealer experience, I have a Audi healthcheck from two different dealers around 2 months apart. 1 gave me a full green light result, the other gave me what looked liked a christmas tree of reds, yellows and green's. So my experience of Audi dealer healthchecks/PPI's is somewhat disappointing.
thanks !!!
yes its got mag (hopefully not that that clonking !)
don't fancy sitting out there checking air con ha ha (that is only way to check I suppose ?)
yes I must admit , I don't like the main dealers but people like it , so because its got full audi , I will have to take mine but pompeyreece (posting above ) has said the porstmouth branch near me ok , so will see ?
what is the gearbox tcu tune then ?

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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Trev450 said:
Engine bay lights come on when you lock/unlock the car. They are on a timer the same as the interior lights.

My mag rides failed at around the same miles as your car and I also had a rear suspension ball joint go at around the same time. Both made knocking noises so could be either.
ok will check lights as quite cool ….
bad really failing at that miles , did you get your shock fixed or replace lot with coil overs ? bit worried if it is 1 , the rest are going to be on there way soon ?
as anybody on here have the mag ride last a decent mileage , as only here about failures ?

ian-163jt

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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Trev450 said:
I swapped mine for the passive ones fitted to the Plus model. You also need a KW delete module to prevent error messages but even with that the cost is still around half of the magrides and they don't fail prematurely.
did you have 1 go, or all seem about to be on way out ?
what are passive ones ?
I will see what mechanic says as might be lucky , but looking on black side could be £2k to change then ?