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yes some people say shocks good /but in general I seem to hear not though !
yes my mechanic checked car & said excellent all over , he is very thorough (Porsche specialist )
he is fitting new exhaust at same time (should have used the £2.5k on shocks in hindsight )
to be honest I am keeping car so at least if I get shocks done I know its done and that's it for few years !)
The thing that's weird is its 1 owner from new car / all Audi s.h from 1 garage , yet mechanic says shock be leaking for months, you would think audi would pick this up as common fault & nice little earner for them to change !
going back to solution, a lot of guys seem to have changed to something from Audi on r8 called Passive + shocks ????
any thoughts ..
yes my mechanic checked car & said excellent all over , he is very thorough (Porsche specialist )
he is fitting new exhaust at same time (should have used the £2.5k on shocks in hindsight )
to be honest I am keeping car so at least if I get shocks done I know its done and that's it for few years !)
The thing that's weird is its 1 owner from new car / all Audi s.h from 1 garage , yet mechanic says shock be leaking for months, you would think audi would pick this up as common fault & nice little earner for them to change !
going back to solution, a lot of guys seem to have changed to something from Audi on r8 called Passive + shocks ????
any thoughts ..
PompeyReece said:
That’s good news.
My feeling is shock life is dependent on driving - they are always active (the button firms them up) so if you’ve tracked it/driven the card hard they will fail earlier.
In hindsight, £300 - £500 on an inspection would saved you a wedge and let you get your exhaust. Harsh but fair but a lesson for all future supercar owners unless you have bottomless pockets.
Was this a private or dealer purchase?
it was a dealer who works from his own premises , he does loads of expensive high end cars , he is nice guy and he gets all his cars from 1 garage who also deal in high end cars , the car not been tracked or driven hard as been on Guernsey whole life ! you cant get slower roads !!!!!My feeling is shock life is dependent on driving - they are always active (the button firms them up) so if you’ve tracked it/driven the card hard they will fail earlier.
In hindsight, £300 - £500 on an inspection would saved you a wedge and let you get your exhaust. Harsh but fair but a lesson for all future supercar owners unless you have bottomless pockets.
Was this a private or dealer purchase?
Trev450 said:
As you know, Ian, I changed mine to passive Plus dampers a couple of years ago. The main reason for this was you can shell out a wedge of money on new/refurbed mag dampers only to have them fail again a few years down the line and I wasn't prepared to live with that. The dampers from the R8 Plus are a fixed coilover, so no adjustment for stiffness or ride height, but are obviously set up correctly for an R8 unlike a lot of cheaper after market coilovers whereby a 'one size fits all' approach is taken. The Plus dampers are a firmer ride than the magrides are when in 'comfort' mode, but not as stiff as when in 'sport' mode. Yes, ok, they are not as comfortable as the magrides but they are by no means too hard or crashy even for our rubbish roads.
Trev , are yes it was you who said about changing to + dampers , can I just change front or do you have to do 4 ? do you mind telling me cost to change ?they come from Audi didn't you say ?
I must admit bit torn as the roads are bad so soft ride suites me as not tracking car ,but I could get these mag done at a fair cost & 20k miles don't road they go again ….
the guy on this chat that had his done by the polish firm are now 3 years old and going strong so obviously a good company (sounds better job than Audi !)
cheers ian
Trev450 said:
You would have to change all four if you decided to go down the passive route. They are available through Audi and are around £300 each. You would also need a KW module delete kit and Ricky at RE Performance does them for around £350.
ok so it works out the same really , having done it , do you think you done the right thing regarding ride / reliability ?PompeyReece said:
OK, don't suppose he provided you with a warranty you could claim against?
Did you look into the CRA 2015 - pretty sure you could claim the shocks based on that?
no I didn't , I will speak to him Monday and see what he says , if he don't do anything I will ring the audi dealers to see why this want spotted a few months ago , got to try anything really as bit annoying to spend all this on something that was there , I know its 2nd hand car & don't expect perfect but this is really quite a serious / expensive issue ...Did you look into the CRA 2015 - pretty sure you could claim the shocks based on that?
Trev450 said:
Yes it's about the same cost if you go for refurbished ones.
I'm very pleased I went down the passive route. I don't have to worry about premature failure any longer and high expenditure when they do go wrong. As far as the ride is concerned I actually prefer it as it makes the car feel more taught and planted. Yes its firmer but not excessively so.
thanks , I think that's the way to go , I don't mind bit firmer (I have a 911 so its firm!) I must admit the mag seems clever idea the way it firms up as you need it , but there is a major issue after 23k milks they are all failing !I'm very pleased I went down the passive route. I don't have to worry about premature failure any longer and high expenditure when they do go wrong. As far as the ride is concerned I actually prefer it as it makes the car feel more taught and planted. Yes its firmer but not excessively so.
this delete box thing , is Ricky the only place that does it ?
also just order my springs from main dealer Audi .
cheers Ian
bit confused , there is a guy on ebay selling the 4 of his car as he had leak on 1 rear so changed the lot , , 2 are original on car, 2 of his are new in 2016 but 2 are bwi (or something like that ) 2 have Delphi on them ???they both have Audi stickers / serial numbers , can they mix & match then
there is also colored dots on them ?
there is also colored dots on them ?
Trev450 said:
Delphi sold out to BWI a few years ago but they are manufactured to the same specifications and can be mixed with no issues.
The coloured dots you refer to I assume are on the coil springs and so long as they are the same colours (eg spring rate) then they are fine.
so I need to find out my colour dots if I go for 2nd hand to match , somebody said you can change them in pairs but not sure ???The coloured dots you refer to I assume are on the coil springs and so long as they are the same colours (eg spring rate) then they are fine.
bloody confusing …….
PompeyReece said:
Personally I've not heard of this dot matching - if you provide your car model and year, any decent seller will tell you whether they fit or not. Alternatively look for the exact part number from Audi.
Swapping in pairs is not mandatory IMHO.
yes you are right you don't have to match in pairs , I have found out some details that might help others in this situation , if I am wrong please let me know as no expert just trying to help others & I am keeping original mag ride , but I think maybe a better option would be to go to ricky & he supply & fits non passive shocks (as said by guys on this thread , but I thought the feeling was it was slightly harder than the mag ride , which is reason I didn't go down this route!) with delete kit so no light on dashboard ,but your mag ride button wont work , but he assures me the ride is nice & soft , so basically its fine for road use but it wont stiffen like mag does when you push on (which wouldn't bother me because how fast can you drive on road & I wont be tracking it !) ….Swapping in pairs is not mandatory IMHO.
some guys on here said get the audi + non passive, but there seems to be confusion over if it will fit to a 2008 v8 (so if anybody knows different let me know ) maybe is this the newer version v8 or v10 only ?????
the old original mag shocks are Delphi , they were taken over by a company BWI (so any newer mags will be BWI) these are all compatible so can have Delphi on one side & BWI other ,the fronts are shorter & the rears are much longer ,but for your 4 corners you have 4 different shocks (part numbers ) then they have coloured lines on which I think means weight / spring rate , so the V8 have different shocks to v10 .
so my fronts have 3 blue lines & 1 red
the rears have 3 yellows
but again remember each one has different part number /fits only 1 corner & quite hard to tell (the only difference I can see on either front or rear is the plug for mag ride round opposite way, but maybe other issues …)
so I have purchased 4 on e bay , 1 front one is nearly new , 1 rear one is nearly new , the other front is not leaking so I will change both my fronts as both leaking , my rears are ok but I now have 1 nearly new spare one , the other rear he sold was leaking hence his change .I will then send the spare ones to Poland to get re furb if any of mine start to leak , so car wont be off the road....
so hopefully that's the end of my mag ride issues , if anybody wanted to send mine of to get re furbed & swap with there leaking ones to help out ,let me know as they will be just sitting in my garage, it will save you the £400 deposit per shock !!! …
thanks for all your help & when I get car back with put some pics on …...
Raven Flyer said:
I think it is sensible to stick with the OE system unless you do 10k miles a year.
If the car is a second or third car then the cost over a 2 or 3 year ownership is very small, or possibly zero.
As above, cars with very infrequent use seem worst affected. Another reason to enjoy what sunny days we get this winter.
yes I know my car history & couldn't have had easier life ,1 owner / no miles / channel islands so no fast roads / guy never tracked or been of island , If the car is a second or third car then the cost over a 2 or 3 year ownership is very small, or possibly zero.
As above, cars with very infrequent use seem worst affected. Another reason to enjoy what sunny days we get this winter.
perhaps like you say no use , sometimes these seals with oil in need to move about on rubbers to keep supple ???
yes you are right, I will take mine out for both sunny days next year !!!!!!!!
jakesmith said:
Is that so? I have one misting and thought they had to swap as pairs
no its fine to swap 1 , I have been told by a few people that know there stuff who I fully trust , there is the same amount of oil whatever age , maybe tiny drop off in oil performance , so maybe Lewis Hamilton might notice a 1000th of 2nd around Silverstone , but I wont ha ha Durzel said:
I was strongly advised to replace in pairs (so all 4) on my 458. The main dealer contributed (oil leaks aren’t covered by Ferrari warranty) but was still a big bill.
I pointed out to Ferrari UK that I also had a 10 year old Civic Type-R on all the original brakes, shocks, clutch, etc on 45k miles but they weren’t sympathetic
I can’t imagine it’s a great idea to have a new, unused shock on one side of the car, so whilst it was not a pleasing experience I wouldn’t have skimped in only replacing the two misting shocks.
yes but you have a Ferrari so can afford it , we are Volkswagen owners with a big engine . ha ha I pointed out to Ferrari UK that I also had a 10 year old Civic Type-R on all the original brakes, shocks, clutch, etc on 45k miles but they weren’t sympathetic
I can’t imagine it’s a great idea to have a new, unused shock on one side of the car, so whilst it was not a pleasing experience I wouldn’t have skimped in only replacing the two misting shocks.
Edited by Durzel on Tuesday 17th December 14:24
but mine are passivesjakesmith said:
Yep think the part is about £300 plus 2 hours that was the whole strut at the back last time I changed one. Only did one as when I bought it the other side had just been done. Only needed doing as the spring had snapped
oh ok , so springs can snap as well ,bloody struts ….Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff