Collecting Cars auction results

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kith

468 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Interesting to and fro on the comments on the 458 Italia going through with a trade seller at the moment.

ferrisbueller

26,556 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Just wondering how much due diligence is done on cars/sellers before they are accepted and listed on the website.

webstercivet

340 posts

40 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Very little - HPI check and MOT check. Why would they do any more? They simply provide a platform, the actual sale is a matter for the buyer and seller. "Any dispute with respect to the sale of any Auction Lot shall be resolved between the Buyer and Seller and without the participation of Collecting Cars."

birdcage

2,601 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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kith said:
Interesting to and fro on the comments on the 458 Italia going through with a trade seller at the moment.
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy

webstercivet

340 posts

40 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.

Drclarke

1,090 posts

139 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
Just wondering how much due diligence is done on cars/sellers before they are accepted and listed on the website.
It appears VERY little for your £6000!

That’s a hell of a lot of money for sweet manna all !!

ferrisbueller

26,556 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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webstercivet said:
Very little - HPI check and MOT check. Why would they do any more? They simply provide a platform, the actual sale is a matter for the buyer and seller. "Any dispute with respect to the sale of any Auction Lot shall be resolved between the Buyer and Seller and without the participation of Collecting Cars."
No doubt the legals are all tied down, but if I, for example, bought a damaged/written-off car, which wasn't declared in the description, which is written by CC, then I'd be rather pissed off.

ferrisbueller

26,556 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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webstercivet said:
birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.
That car has apparently been a competition prize twice this year? With an apparent change of plate and appearance between times.

birdcage

2,601 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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That car looks as bent as a nine bob note

HIS LM

1,146 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Anyone know what the Bentley GTC was bid up to before it went unsold

Mezzanine

6,257 posts

185 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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rat rod said:
Paft Dunk said:
Was interested in a car finishing tonight, and I note that the seller hasn’t answered a single question that potential bidders asked. Find the whole thing very odd.

Perhaps they just see its hit the reserve, so why bother?!
The idea of entering a car in a auction is so you don't have to get involved and let the auction do the work,

Also if the owner states something in print that is misleading either on purpose or innocently could have consequences

for them after the auction if the buyer is unhappy with his or her purchase

so i suppose the less said the better and as you say if it's made the reserve why bother and complicate things but do agree

it does look like there's something to hide
And yet, this is part of the reason Being A Trailer has been so successful in the U.S.A. The sellers get actively involved with the comments and this helps to build better trust in both their cars and themselves as a seller.

BaT ultimate success and major difference has been embracing comments from both the audience and the seller and it has helped them weed out cars/lots that are not what they say they are.

This means that site now has a reputation of trust - if the advert is up and stays up, it is likely to be an honest car and people then bid it up to better than average prices.

Having the ability to comment underneath the auction and not really using this feature seems a waste. Having questions go unanswered seems suspicious - they should probably just turn the comments off.



Krikkit

21,426 posts

147 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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Lots of their auctions have questions answered by the seller, most with good humour even to the ones which are quite negative and/or trolling.

Dingolfing

47 posts

177 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
webstercivet said:
birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.
That car has apparently been a competition prize twice this year? With an apparent change of plate and appearance between times.
Was up for sale at Romans pre change in appearance
https://www.romansofstalbans.co.uk/stock/ferrari/4...

Wilmslowboy

3,172 posts

172 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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The 458 looks tempting, some bold claims by the seller

- The car is in perfect condition and drives superbly
- All we know is that the car is in perfect condition.
- The service history is exceptional on this car
- The car looks and drives absolutely amazing
- The bodywork of this 458 Italia is in excellent order, with flush shut lines and no evidence of any prior accident damage



ferrisbueller

26,556 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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Dingolfing said:
ferrisbueller said:
webstercivet said:
birdcage said:
I saw that, he sounds like he's just about keeping his temper in check. Not someone I would buy a Ferrari from he sounds pretty crazy
Probably doesn't get as much scrutiny on the £1-10k cars that Winchester Cars normally sells.
That car has apparently been a competition prize twice this year? With an apparent change of plate and appearance between times.
Was up for sale at Romans pre change in appearance
https://www.romansofstalbans.co.uk/stock/ferrari/4...
That's after the first change of appearance I think. There's a timeline that can be pieced together. Assuming these companies that run the raffles have to own the vehicle in question, it may have changed hands 4+ times this year.

JaseB

766 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Wilmslowboy said:
The 458 looks tempting, some bold claims by the seller

- The car is in perfect condition and drives superbly
- All we know is that the car is in perfect condition.
- The service history is exceptional on this car
- The car looks and drives absolutely amazing
- The bodywork of this 458 Italia is in excellent order, with flush shut lines and no evidence of any prior accident damage
All good fun, I do know of a Speciale that was smashed up significantly on a test drive, never recorded (maybe didn't need to be as the value was high enough to be fair) and fixed up 'as new' with no evidence of prior accident damage... It had excellent bodywork because most of it was replaced laugh

ferrisbueller

26,556 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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caminator11

244 posts

64 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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If it was formally written off, wouldn't this appear in an HPI check?

MDMA .

6,409 posts

67 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
Given it's been mentioned elsewhere

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

whistle
Which is the below -

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2002-ferrari-3...

Drclarke

1,090 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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More posts exposing the Collecting cars website deleted. This is like Donald Trumps worst day for fake news blocking !
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