Collecting Cars auction results

Collecting Cars auction results

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355fiorano

430 posts

242 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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ettore said:
Why would that be an issue?
Not an issue at all!

Oaky

192 posts

172 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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breakfan said:
... are they mutually exclusive?
If someone from CC says it was not started by car sales people and it turns out it was started by enthusiastic car sales people I’d be turning in my grave.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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ferdi p said:
Krikkit said:
ferdi p said:
2018 488GTB at 157K was a strong result for a very basic spec car...
Out of interest what was it missing? It looked pretty complete to me.
Any carbon (in or out), seats, wheels... It's actually one of the lowest spec 488's I've ever seen for sale...
Sounds perfect. Hate exposed carbon with a passion!

ferdi p

1,519 posts

172 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Sounds perfect. Hate exposed carbon with a passion!
Fair enough but the standard interior trim in a 488 is well below par for a 200k car imo...

foibles

65 posts

113 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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21ATS said:
High Bidder was "Justin Banks" vendor (unless he has a namesake) of the 102,000 550 Maranello listed here:- https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Interesting that trade have outbid end users here (assuming it's the same Justin Banks), be interesting to see if this pops up for sale on his website.
I'm confused..... This has been JBs car for some years.

So.... It went to auction... And he was the highest bidder on his own car?

Doesn't that suggest that vendor bids can always be used to push the auction price to whatever price the vendor desires... Whereby it's actually a quasi sale?

And assuming the vendor is not charged a fee for this... As clearly they won't be paying a 10% buyer fee... How can bidders be confident that they are partaking in fair auctions?

I might have this wrong... Just read this now and am a little confused and bemused by this....

jtremlett

1,375 posts

222 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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foibles said:
21ATS said:
High Bidder was "Justin Banks" vendor (unless he has a namesake) of the 102,000 550 Maranello listed here:- https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Interesting that trade have outbid end users here (assuming it's the same Justin Banks), be interesting to see if this pops up for sale on his website.
I'm confused..... This has been JBs car for some years.

So.... It went to auction... And he was the highest bidder on his own car?

Doesn't that suggest that vendor bids can always be used to push the auction price to whatever price the vendor desires... Whereby it's actually a quasi sale?

And assuming the vendor is not charged a fee for this... As clearly they won't be paying a 10% buyer fee... How can bidders be confident that they are partaking in fair auctions?

I might have this wrong... Just read this now and am a little confused and bemused by this....
No, he was the high bidder on a different car (not the 100k mile 550).

Mezzanine

9,214 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Silver 993 Turbo S went unsold with a highest bid (last time I looked) of £270k.

Despite the reserve having been lowered this still didn’t sell!

How much would we guess the lowered reserve was?!

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Mezzanine said:
Silver 993 Turbo S went unsold with a highest bid (last time I looked) of £270k.

Despite the reserve having been lowered this still didn’t sell!

How much would we guess the lowered reserve was?!
Amazed it didn’t sell...what was it 24k miles ? JZM appear to have taken a deposit of their 17k mile car which they’ve had for a few months and has recently been up for £300k. So I imagine it sold for less than that.

Mezzanine

9,214 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Cheib said:
Mezzanine said:
Silver 993 Turbo S went unsold with a highest bid (last time I looked) of £270k.

Despite the reserve having been lowered this still didn’t sell!

How much would we guess the lowered reserve was?!
Amazed it didn’t sell...what was it 24k miles ? JZM appear to have taken a deposit of their 17k mile car which they’ve had for a few months and has recently been up for £300k. So I imagine it sold for less than that.
Yup 24k miles.

Wonder what the previous reserve was before it was lowered and still didn’t sell!



GT4RS

4,425 posts

197 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Mezzanine said:
Silver 993 Turbo S went unsold with a highest bid (last time I looked) of £270k.

Despite the reserve having been lowered this still didn’t sell!

How much would we guess the lowered reserve was?!
Bet the owner is kicking themselves that they didn’t take £270k for it. Can’t be many who would drop that sort of money on a 993 turbo s.

The owner of the Jzm car probably watched the auction and sold his car accordingly to the same collecting cars bidder.



will_

6,027 posts

203 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Oaky said:
ettore said:
Why would that be an issue?
I seem to remember someone from CC saying on here CC was started by enthusiasts not car sales people.
That was the team behind The Market (https://themarket.co.uk/) not CC.

I see that Car and Classic is now doing its own auctions....!

Oaky

192 posts

172 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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will_ said:
That was the team behind The Market (https://themarket.co.uk/) not CC.

I see that Car and Classic is now doing its own auctions....!
My mistake - thanks.

TCruise

578 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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355fiorano said:
Interestingly, looks like Edward Lovett owns Collecting Cars
It's not that interesting. It's the Collecting Cars Podcast, that is advertising the Collecting Cars auction website.

The podcast was created to drive traffic to the Auction website.

Chris Harris and Edward Lovett have run the podcast from day 1. With Edward constantly pushing the Auction site and Chris Harris even selling his cars on it.

I am sure Collecting Cars Auction is owned by Chris Harris and Edward Lovett.

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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TCruise said:
355fiorano said:
Interestingly, looks like Edward Lovett owns Collecting Cars
It's not that interesting. It's the Collecting Cars Podcast, that is advertising the Collecting Cars auction website.

The podcast was created to drive traffic to the Auction website.

Chris Harris and Edward Lovett have run the podcast from day 1. With Edward constantly pushing the Auction site and Chris Harris even selling his cars on it.

I am sure Collecting Cars Auction is owned by Chris Harris and Edward Lovett.
100% Chris Harris is always posting comments about CC auctions. Good luck to him I say. Clearly he’s not doing the Podcast just for kicks, it’s a great way of deriving revenue from the media content...something most people except Joe Rogan struggle to do!

It’s a great business model...without Chris Harris’s promoting it would be nowhere near as successful.

TCruise

578 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Cheib said:
100% Chris Harris is always posting comments about CC auctions. Good luck to him I say. Clearly he’s not doing the Podcast just for kicks, it’s a great way of deriving revenue from the media content...something most people except Joe Rogan struggle to do!

It’s a great business model...without Chris Harris’s promoting it would be nowhere near as successful.
Harris' hatred of YouTube revenue is so very transparent when you listen to his podcasts. He clearly tried multiple times, generating a variety of content, but never got anywhere. He now has distinct dislike for YouTubers, which is unfair as they're just better at playing the same game he was playing.

He's instead found another way of making money, without the difficulty or outlay of creating footage for YouTube: Using his Podcast to drive an Auction business.

Undoubtedly, Coronavirus has helped his business as selling cars remotely via internet auction has spiked. Whilst traditional auctions (e.g. BCA or COYS) have been closed or shutdown.

But all in all, it's worked out pretty well for him.


Edited by TCruise on Wednesday 17th June 11:58

Harris_I

3,228 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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TCruise said:
He now has distinct dislike for YouTubers
You can hardly blame him. Old school journo with first class writing skills and pro racing experience spends a couple of decades honing those skills. Spotty 20-somethings suddenly appear splashing their trust funds on this month's "special edition" McLaren, video the unboxing experience peppered with inane platitudes and grating hyperbole about deviated stitching options, generate an equally moronic gazillion followers, and are deemed "influencers" by the world's most desirable brands.

Weep for the future.

(Obviously my kids think I am an idiot.)

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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TCruise said:
Undoubtedly, Coronavirus has helped his business as selling cars remotely via internet auction has spiked. Whilst traditional auctions (e.g. BCA or COYS) have been closed or shutdown.
BCA have never closed their auctions simply went totally online.

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Harris_I said:
TCruise said:
He now has distinct dislike for YouTubers
You can hardly blame him. Old school journo with first class writing skills and pro racing experience spends a couple of decades honing those skills. Spotty 20-somethings suddenly appear splashing their trust funds on this month's "special edition" McLaren, video the unboxing experience peppered with inane platitudes and grating hyperbole about deviated stitching options, generate an equally moronic gazillion followers, and are deemed "influencers" by the world's most desirable brands.

Weep for the future.

(Obviously my kids think I am an idiot.)
Don't worry, there's only a minority of motoring YouTubers making decent money.

For many it's principally a hobby.

Pro Bono

594 posts

77 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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TCruise said:
I am sure Collecting Cars Auction is owned by Chris Harris and Edward Lovett.
No, it's owned entirely by Edward Lovett.

Incidentally, I was surprised this beauty didn't sell, and also that the top bid was just £62k - https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1964-jaguar-e-...

drcarrera

791 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Pro Bono said:
Incidentally, I was surprised this beauty didn't sell, and also that the top bid was just £62k - https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1964-jaguar-e-...
Yes, that looks like quite a good car, albeit not in its original colour scheme, and surprising it didn't get above £62K (but therefore not surprising it didn't sell!). The early cars aren't quite as usable as the later ones and maybe it's not the type of car to necessarily appeal to on-line bidders. When I was looking to buy a few years ago I looked at loads around the £100K mark and none were as good as this one!

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