Best option around 85K ?
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Pooh said:
bennno said:
Pooh said:
WilliamWaiver said:
andyvdg said:
F430.
Wow 991 Turbo to a F430. PDK to F1Apart from noise I think that's quite a big step back and not sure what OP would want unless he wants to go Old skool lol
It was a day set up by Dick Lovett for customers and they even had Chris Harris there giving people hot laps in a Speciale, but more importantly as part of the day they also had some 458s available for us to do laps in and ... wow... 458 (I took out the convertible, whatever they call it) was sooo much better than the F430. The gap between the generations was huge and the 458 was even way more fun to drive. I loved it and have been meaning to buy one since, but sort of lost my interest in sports cars since then.
In any case, the point is I really can’t see someone who is accustomed to the latest high power sports cars enjoying the F430 as a replacement, it was fantastic in its era, and it remains an iconic (and truly beautiful) vehicle, but things have moved on massively since then in terms of the driving dynamics, so if that’s important it is not a great option IMO. Amazing to have as part of a collection if you are doing that sort of thing though.
Edited by sealtt on Sunday 2nd August 17:08
av185 said:
Yep 458 is quite a sweetspot as a package.
Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
Quite odd in a way that its valued higher than the newer / faster 488.Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
I get the normally aspirated piece, but 488 supposedly a masterclass in turbo charging.
I grew up lusting after 288 gto, f40 - which if memory serves me correctly are both turbo’d and worth a small fortune now.
bennno said:
Quite odd in a way that its valued higher than the newer / faster 488.
I get the normally aspirated piece, but 488 supposedly a masterclass in turbo charging.
I grew up lusting after 288 gto, f40 - which if memory serves me correctly are both turbo’d and worth a small fortune now.
I agree that the 458 has pretty amazing residuals however the 488 is in a different league dynamically..Everything from the Infotainment system to steering feel ..The main issues with the 458 were the poor brakes which thankfully have been much improved in the 488..458s will hold value better than the 488 IMO due to NA etc however the 488 is a quantum leap ahead in dynamics and performance..I get the normally aspirated piece, but 488 supposedly a masterclass in turbo charging.
I grew up lusting after 288 gto, f40 - which if memory serves me correctly are both turbo’d and worth a small fortune now.
Taffy66 said:
I agree that the 458 has pretty amazing residuals however the 488 is in a different league dynamically..Everything from the Infotainment system to steering feel ..The main issues with the 458 were the poor brakes which thankfully have been much improved in the 488..458s will hold value better than the 488 IMO due to NA etc however the 488 is a quantum leap ahead in dynamics and performance..
Can you get an after market exhaust that gives the twin turbo 488 a better sound ?I know it will never be like the 458 naturally aspirated sound but maybe the acoustics gap could also be improved.
I test drove a F8 tributo recently as I'm considering ordering a spider and I have to say you would not know it was a turbo car.
The throttle response was excellent with virtually zero turbo lag.
Unless you know your cars you would think its N/a.
Very impressed with F8 which ultimately could start effecting 458 values as the game has definitely moved on again
bennno said:
av185 said:
Yep 458 is quite a sweetspot as a package.
Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
Quite odd in a way that its valued higher than the newer / faster 488.Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
I get the normally aspirated piece, but 488 supposedly a masterclass in turbo charging.
I grew up lusting after 288 gto, f40 - which if memory serves me correctly are both turbo’d and worth a small fortune now.
Interesting that Pistas are now sub £300k within £25k of Speciale prices.
The market over values ££ na imo.
488 still has some lag but the Pista/Tributo is almost linear power delivery.
WilliamWaiver said:
Can you get an after market exhaust that gives the twin turbo 488 a better sound ?
I know it will never be like the 458 naturally aspirated sound but maybe the acoustics gap could also be improved.
I test drove a F8 tributo recently as I'm considering ordering a spider and I have to say you would not know it was a turbo car.
The throttle response was excellent with virtually zero turbo lag.
Unless you know your cars you would think its N/a.
Very impressed with F8 which ultimately could start effecting 458 values as the game has definitely moved on again
Biggest surprise for me was how good the 488 sounded , at least at low to mid revs..It'll never be able to quite replicate the 458s high 9K scream but its pretty good for a Turbo..Unless i knew different it revs like a NA engine albeit with much more torque..Its a brilliant car and right now quite good value IMO..I know it will never be like the 458 naturally aspirated sound but maybe the acoustics gap could also be improved.
I test drove a F8 tributo recently as I'm considering ordering a spider and I have to say you would not know it was a turbo car.
The throttle response was excellent with virtually zero turbo lag.
Unless you know your cars you would think its N/a.
Very impressed with F8 which ultimately could start effecting 458 values as the game has definitely moved on again
In terms of aftermarket exhausts, there are plenty to choose from including Larini which is a personal favorite of mine..I'd love an F8 at some point but only when it has shed at least a third of its value..Don't think they sound as good as a 488 let alone a 458.
bennno said:
av185 said:
Yep 458 is quite a sweetspot as a package.
Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
Quite odd in a way that its valued higher than the newer / faster 488.Unsurprisingly residually holding up remarkably well too for such an old car.
The 997 GTS of Ferrari world.
I get the normally aspirated piece, but 488 supposedly a masterclass in turbo charging.
I grew up lusting after 288 gto, f40 - which if memory serves me correctly are both turbo’d and worth a small fortune now.
My wife is trying to persuade me to buy a sports car for us (lol), if we do get anything, I had been leaning towards the California T which I have had a real soft spot for since the launch which I attended in Italy and at Milbrook, so much better than the N/A California was, but seems a 488 would also be worth a look too now they have depreciated pretty far.
Less noise is really not an issue for me, I would feel like I was overpaying for a 458, I remember looking in 2015 approved used and they were still £120k-£140k! I said back then I’d just wait for them to get to £100k-£110k.
Taffy66 said:
ReformedPistonhead said:
My 488 (non-Pista) was a magnificent car and crazy fast. Only disappointment was the exhaust note so well worth buying after market if you can.
I might buy one for my 488 later on..Larini is my favourite which seems to get universal praise without being OTT.av185 said:
Theres a decent mileage average spec 2018 488 Spider on CC atm 2 days to run currently £152k. Not the best colour combo though.
Each to their own and all that but I absolutely love TDF with Beige. That looks like a stunning car with a decent spec. Be interesting to see what it ends up going for...
drcarrera said:
av185 said:
Theres a decent mileage average spec 2018 488 Spider on CC atm 2 days to run currently £152k. Not the best colour combo though.
Each to their own and all that but I absolutely love TDF with Beige. That looks like a stunning car with a decent spec. Be interesting to see what it ends up going for...Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff