Best option around 85K ?

Best option around 85K ?

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bennno

11,650 posts

269 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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OP asked for theatre so I’d say McLaren, Older Lambo / Ferrari, R8, V8 F Type has a lot of character.

bennno

11,650 posts

269 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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av185 said:
bennno said:
2016 570S went for £76k inc buyers premium on CC.

I sold my 718GT4, entirely impractical on road due to height and length of nose.

Gt4 wouldn’t see which way a 570S went, heavier, gappy gears vs dual clutch and a third less power imho.
GT4 as rapid as a 570S on real world UK driving roads especially in the wet.

As a track car the 570S is well out of its depth and Mclaren would void your warranty too. No issues to the track focused GT4 and warranty honoured by Porsche too.

Never had any issues with either a 981 GT4 or 718 GT4 due to insufficient front clearance.

Poor reliability, depreciation and widely reported poor dealer backup are the real Mclaren issues.

Wanted to love the 570S but ended up frustrated by it as have many others.
Just seen you aren’t getting your gt4 for a few months, so you won’t have had issues with ground clearance yet.... just wait.

Bispal

1,619 posts

151 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Having a 981 Spyder, very similar to a GT4, and a McLaren 675LT and a Lotus 430 CUP I disagree with some comments above about the GT4 being as quick as a 570. Absolutely no way. I have driven both on track, the 570 just punches you into your seat whereas the GT4 is more linear. The GT4 / Spyders are great cars and very usable but the McLaren is much quicker and a lot comfier on the road. The 981 Spyder looks and sounds amazing though.

If you want a McLaren go with a 650s, an awesome car very usable and super quick and has the active aero and suspension that the 570 does not. However for weekend fun use I would go with an Exige 430 / 410. Nothing comes close for engagement and fun factor.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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bennno said:
Just seen you aren’t getting your gt4 for a few months, so you won’t have had issues with ground clearance yet.... just wait.
Had a 981 GT4 from new which of course has the GT3 front chassis but had no issues re clearance for road use.

The 718 GT4 has the GT3 suspension all round the rear is actually lower which has the effect of slightly increasing the front clearance.

Suppose it depends where you live angle of approach and severity of speedbumps etc. but I have no problems on clearance.

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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personally i'd go for either:

599

ff (just listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzDy42lsm0 )

570s

merc clk black series

997 gt3

all are special cars that won't lose money

Pioneer

1,309 posts

131 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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WCZ said:
personally i'd go for either:

599

ff (just listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzDy42lsm0 )

570s

merc clk black series

997 gt3

all are special cars that won't lose money
all are special cars that won't lose money ... except the 570S and CLK which will hemorrhage money"

FTFY smile

bennno

11,650 posts

269 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Pioneer said:
all are special cars that won't lose money ... except the 570S and CLK which will hemorrhage money"

FTFY smile
Id wager a 50% depreciated, warrantied 570S wouldn't be more expensive than a 599.



davek_964

8,818 posts

175 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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bennno said:
Pioneer said:
all are special cars that won't lose money ... except the 570S and CLK which will hemorrhage money"

FTFY smile
Id wager a 50% depreciated, warrantied 570S wouldn't be more expensive than a 599.
I've owned my 650 spider for almost a year now. If some of the views on this place are true I'd literally have to pay somebody to take it away by now.
Guess I'll just have to keep it.....

bennno

11,650 posts

269 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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davek_964 said:
I've owned my 650 spider for almost a year now. If some of the views on this place are true I'd literally have to pay somebody to take it away by now.
Guess I'll just have to keep it.....
Agreed. Being honest if my 540c was the same price aa a same age used as a hurrican or 488 then it'd be a very difficult choice between them. But as it was 50% of the price it was an easy decision.

cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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As i have done the Ferraris and now own a V12VAM manual this would be my choice its a superb car more GT though.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Great noise for sure.

cj450

Original Poster:

55 posts

84 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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MAC 720S said:
The 570S isn’t a track focussed car. Try the 600LT as a fair comparison with the GT4. McLaren void the warranty if used on track, why? Anyway, the OP hasn’t said he is looking for a track car. He wants something with theatre, overall experience and performance. 570S provides those in abundance.

I was in a similar situation to the OP In April last year, deciding between Porsche, AM, Lambo and Ferrari but chose the Mac. In fact I was very close to buying a new 570S Spider but was offered a decent discount on a barely used 720S, otherwise I would have chosen the 570S.
720 is a real dream car of mine ! mauvine blue 720 yes please ! ha ! bristol is my closest dealer which is probs 2 hours away which is bit of a pain but need to go test drive a 570 and see for myself

cj450

Original Poster:

55 posts

84 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Titan said:
Easy decision.
Corvette C7 Z06, if you can find one. £85k buys a low mileage late car. Great handling, rewarding to drive, all the theatre you could ever want, 650 bhp, reliable and inexpensive to service, fantastic soundtrack, and best of all, as rare as hens teeth in the U.K.
People on here will say downsides are left hand drive, but that’s nearly always people that haven’t driven a LHD car. Honestly it makes no difference.
Just my opinion. ??
funny you mention that i have always wanted a c7 but like you said have been put of by the left hand drive aspect , i was offered a swap on my gtr with a c6 zr1 which i really should have taken up !

MDL111

6,941 posts

177 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Pioneer said:
WCZ said:
personally i'd go for either:

599

ff (just listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzDy42lsm0 )

570s

merc clk black series

997 gt3

all are special cars that won't lose money
all are special cars that won't lose money ... except the 570S and CLK which will hemorrhage money"

FTFY smile
I think a CLK Black will hold value quite well - should have bought one when they were still cheap(ish)

ReformedPistonhead

965 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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I had a 911 991.1 GTS, a Ferrari 488 GTB, a few other less exciting things...

Now I am in a 2018 Vantage V12VSM and it is more fun to drive than any of the others and will take longer to learn.

Yes the 488 would leave it for dead on a track but it wasn't really me driving that, it was the computers.

The Aston will throw you into a field if you are not on your A-Game when driving fast. Much more of a challenge, better looking and you get more love on the road as its British.

I cannot see myself ever selling the Vantage.

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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This is a rather nice looking 570 and from a very good dealer as well - https://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/11603...

AndyC_123

1,116 posts

154 months

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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MDL111 said:
I think a CLK Black will hold value quite well - should have bought one when they were still cheap(ish)
they've gone up recently, the black series name is becoming increasingly well known and sought after

MDL111

6,941 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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WCZ said:
MDL111 said:
I think a CLK Black will hold value quite well - should have bought one when they were still cheap(ish)
they've gone up recently, the black series name is becoming increasingly well known and sought after
yup indeed, I looked at a LHD car (am based in Germany) a few years ago at c 60k euros, same quality car now is 100k plus. I think the CLK is a special one (the C that followed it less so imo). I wouldnt buy it if I were looking for the supercar experience though - special yes, but in a different way imo

Xfe

257 posts

76 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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bennno said:
Just seen you aren’t getting your gt4 for a few months, so you won’t have had issues with ground clearance yet.... just wait.
Have had mine for around 7 months now and 2k miles. No clearance issues at all in general driving, and I've been down some very sketchy country lanes - as well as all other kinds of roads.

Only thing I would say is that if you have a sloping driveway, any gradient changes need to be relatively smooth