Noise camera's in West London

[Candellara]

Had to happen I guess:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/noise-cameras-...

Probably about time.

[Terminator X]

How will it handle older cars that breach the threshold quite legally eg are non modified factory cars?

"The cameras, which have a 74 decibel (dB) noise threshold"

TX.

PS 74db is about the noise of a shower running or a toilet flushing. We seem to be a very "controlled" society these days, silly laws + fines.

[johnnyreggae]

It seems an extreme way to prove how anti-social Range Rovers are - ban them & all their drivers !!!

"a Range Rover on Sloane Street triggered the camera"

[Chrisatronic]

74db!? That’s absurd, what speed is this at?

[Ferruccio]

Terminator X said:

How will it handle older cars that breach the threshold quite legally eg are non modified factory cars?

"The cameras, which have a 74 decibel (dB) noise threshold"

TX.

PS 74db is about the noise of a shower running or a toilet flushing. We seem to be a very "controlled" society these days, silly laws + fines.

Quite.
Ban everything.
At once.
Forever.

[supersport]

It's not April 1st though

[the tribester]

Aren't the 74db noise tests on new vehicles carried out in certain gears, at certain revs and load.

It's not just 74db. I wonder how they deal with this? A threshold as per speeding perhaps?

[WilliamWaiver]

What happens if you fart when you go past the camera, surely they can't do you then 🤔

[Trev450]

WilliamWaiver said:

What happens if you fart when you go past the camera, surely they can't do you then ??

If you are capable of a 74db fart you should be the Guiness Book of Records. lol.

[55palfers]

Where did the council pluck 74 dB from? The background sound level on a busy street probably exceeds that during the day.

HSE Regs allow an 80 dB exposure over 8 hours before an employer has to start looking at controls.

Let's hope that 74 dB level also applies to roadworks, emergency services sirens, reversing beepers, etc. and is robustly policed by the council

For those who find it difficult to sleep.....HSE guidance

https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l108.pdf

[okgo]

I don't know what level they should be, but I do know people who live in W1 and supercars blitzing about residential streets are a huge problem, both noise wise, and obviously anyone with kids, dogs etc generally isn't a huge fan of some prick in a 488 doing 70mph down the side of a garden square.

I'd actually welcome them near me, fking morons on loud superbikes and cars smashing it down the road near me (which is a 20) all hours.

Edited by okgo on Thursday 8th October 15:34

[Cheib]

Terminator X said:

How will it handle older cars that breach the threshold quite legally eg are non modified factory cars?

"The cameras, which have a 74 decibel (dB) noise threshold"

TX.

PS 74db is about the noise of a shower running or a toilet flushing. We seem to be a very "controlled" society these days, silly laws + fines.

Maybe they cross reference with year of manufacture etc ? I remember seeing articles saying these were coming a year or so ago. As it says in that article they changed the regulations around modifying cars exhaust systems a while ago because people were removing troublesome Diesel Particulate Filters rather than paying the money to maintain or replace them.

Not great for business if you’re business is aftermarket exhausts. Technically it means your vehicle isn’t roadworthy which is breach of your insurance polcy T’s & C’s.

The fun police are certainly alive and well. No idea where 74 dB comes from !

[MDL111]

I believe 74db is the max allowed under EU law for new cars (starts at 70 and the more power the louder, but 74 is the max you can get to). Not 100 percent certain though.

[R8Reece]

74db at what distance though and in what conditions? 5cm from the car? 50cm? 100m?

[claudereff]

Its a good thing in my opinion so many drivers never change out of first gear, just apply max revs then slow down and repeat, the sound just reverberates off buildings and is a nightmare. If it were an isolated event but its not, suggesting emergency sirens, reversing warnings should be targeted is somewhat stupid.

[tejr]

Would be good to know the distance at which the noise is measured. The Cerbera is 'naturally' loud, but I never drive it through town with it popping and banging away, so I welcome the noise cameras tbh, as long as they are placed sensibly.

Will hopefully prevent the numpties driving past with the windows down/music up (rarity now as everyone has aircon! so its easier to spot the ones doing it for the attention). And hopefully will reduce the whole craze of driving through town in your Fiesta/Golf accelerating and decelerating to intentionally get the pops and bangs.

[JonathaniTall]

Terminator X said:

How will it handle older cars that breach the threshold quite legally eg are non modified factory cars?

"The cameras, which have a 74 decibel (dB) noise threshold"

TX.

PS 74db is about the noise of a shower running or a toilet flushing. We seem to be a very "controlled" society these days, silly laws + fines.

I doubt their is any distinction by age, it will be applied to all cars.
I am unaware of any previous legal limit on noise, thus a perfectly original car could fail this test (as could a teenage girl spotting her heartthrob).
According to road & track magazine a 1978 Countach recorded 77dBA at a constant 30mph, 102dBA at maximum revs in 1st gear, and 73dBA even at idle,
all being interior noise levels...
How long until someone gets caught by one of these cameras because they have locked their brakes trying to avoid an accident?

[citizensm1th]

Think of the fun that could be had standing by one of these cameras with a whistle or a air horn when buses and black cabs come driving past

[andrew]

how accurately can the detector pick-out a single noise source against the general background din that is central london ?

where in the statute is the figure of 74db mentioned ?

does there need to be signage to say that you're entering a noise limited zone, as per a speed limited zone ?

how do i know if i'm breaking this limit ?

[johnnyreggae]

Picture of camera in this story (which also refers to an 80 db limit)

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/noise-cameras-to-ca...

Looks like the measurement is at about five metre minimum and the roads have a 20 or 30 mph limit I think - long time since I was there