Everyday โ€˜Supercarโ€™

Everyday โ€˜Supercarโ€™

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paddy1970

230 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Ok...let's forget about what constitutes a supercar or not as this has been discussed a million times on pistonheads and no universal definition has ever been reached.

For those who think an F12 is an everyday car...I really would like to see you driving it this morning with frost on the ground!!!

paddy1970

230 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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...also, every day means 10k miles a year ... how much will it cost to run a F12...nobody knows as it has not been done!!!!

These cars are not designed to do this type of mileage...they will fall apart in no time....

Same for Lambo or Maclaren...they cannot be used every day or you will be grippled by consumable costs and the car will be most of the time at the garage getting fixed...


DeejRC

2,928 posts

54 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Puts hand in the air.

At 9am in rush hr traffic across crappy roads from just outside Reading via Wallingford and Didcot this morning. 0C, ground mist/fog conditions. On PZeros smile

And she did the evening run up from Devon last night.

I just dumped her at Gatwick for a cpl of days. She will drive back to Devon on Friday.

I think I’ve put 5000 miles on her since I picked her up in July.

But then I’m also the bloke who put 60,000 miles on an Alfa 4C from new in 3.5yrs (inc a yr of Covid) as a daily driver.

limpsfield

5,163 posts

225 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Not all heroes wear capes

LeroyLoser

621 posts

10 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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limpsfield said:
Not all heroes wear capes
rofl

Lee Jones Jnr

1,053 posts

142 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Its been done to death a number of times.
If you think an R8/911/shopping trolley/F40 is a Supercar then it is, drive what you drive or aspire to what you aspire to and enjoy it.
It is such a subjective, vague definition that there will never be a proper consensus. I, for example, can’t even follow my own rules: an Audi can’t be a Supercar. Is an XJ220 a Supercar? Yes!
Oh, and a Ferrari or Lamborghini can easily be used as a daily.

Edited by Lee Jones Jnr on Tuesday 23 November 20:53

DeejRC

2,928 posts

54 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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LeroyLoser said:
limpsfield said:
Not all heroes wear capes
rofl
Underpants firmly on the outside of my trousers!

Oaky

87 posts

144 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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If you’re still wearing underpants you’re part of the problem

DeejRC

2,928 posts

54 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Guess it is more of a problem than I thought!

Pioneer

1,248 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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paddy1970 said:
...also, every day means 10k miles a year ... how much will it cost to run a F12...nobody knows as it has not been done!!!!

These cars are not designed to do this type of mileage...they will fall apart in no time....

Same for Lambo or Maclaren...they cannot be used every day or you will be grippled by consumable costs and the car will be most of the time at the garage getting fixed...
Hmmm, okay.

SL550M

468 posts

82 months

Wednesday 24th November
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DeejRC said:
Puts hand in the air.

At 9am in rush hr traffic across crappy roads from just outside Reading via Wallingford and Didcot this morning. 0C, ground mist/fog conditions. On PZeros smile

And she did the evening run up from Devon last night.

I just dumped her at Gatwick for a cpl of days. She will drive back to Devon on Friday.

I think I’ve put 5000 miles on her since I picked her up in July.

But then I’m also the bloke who put 60,000 miles on an Alfa 4C from new in 3.5yrs (inc a yr of Covid) as a daily driver.
Good man! I agree with DeejRC...it can be done. I ran a 550 Maranello for four years as my daily driver. Before that I ran a Porsche 911 GT3 (996.2) as a DD. Drove them both in all weather and in all day-to-day scenarios (work and play). Apart from the petrol costs, the 550 actually wasn't as ruinous financially as one might think. Nothing went wrong, servicing averaged around £1,500-2,000 per annum over my four years of ownership, happy days! Wish I'd never sold it.

Bo_apex

1,531 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th November
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SL550M said:
Good man! I agree with DeejRC...it can be done. I ran a 550 Maranello for four years as my daily driver. Before that I ran a Porsche 911 GT3 (996.2) as a DD. Drove them both in all weather and in all day-to-day scenarios (work and play). Apart from the petrol costs, the 550 actually wasn't as ruinous financially as one might think. Nothing went wrong, servicing averaged around £1,500-2,000 per annum over my four years of ownership, happy days! Wish I'd never sold it.
Good choice !
If clocking up big trips the 550 makes a lot of sense.


paddy1970

230 posts

81 months

Wednesday 24th November
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But a 550 is not a supercar as .... (any excuse you want....the engine is not mid-mounted for example!!!)

rotaterotaterotate


Bispal

1,048 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th November
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paddy1970 said:
...also, every day means 10k miles a year ... how much will it cost to run a F12...nobody knows as it has not been done!!!!

These cars are not designed to do this type of mileage...they will fall apart in no time....

Same for Lambo or Maclaren...they cannot be used every day or you will be grippled by consumable costs and the car will be most of the time at the garage getting fixed...
I know plenty of McLaren owners who use their cars every day, even leaving them out on the streets, The more you use them the more reliable they are. They are designed to be used, in fact the more you use them the less they cost per mile. Nothing worse than paying £5k pa for a warranty then only doing 500 miles in your car, that's £10 a mile in warranty before anything else. I wouldn't daily mine because of where I live in South London with speed bumps, width restrictors, 20mph zones and on street parallel parking required on a daily basis but if I lived elsewhere I would use my McLaren every day I could and make everyday that bit more special.




swanseaboydan

737 posts

135 months

Wednesday 24th November
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There’s a Ferrari California T on eBay at the moment - 6 years old with 75 k miles so that must have been used as a Daily I imagine - not everyone’s idea of a super car but that is impressive mileage

Pioneer

1,248 posts

103 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Bispal said:
I know plenty of McLaren owners who use their cars every day, even leaving them out on the streets, The more you use them the more reliable they are. They are designed to be used, in fact the more you use them the less they cost per mile. Nothing worse than paying £5k pa for a warranty then only doing 500 miles in your car, that's £10 a mile in warranty before anything else. I wouldn't daily mine because of where I live in South London with speed bumps, width restrictors, 20mph zones and on street parallel parking required on a daily basis but if I lived elsewhere I would use my McLaren every day I could and make everyday that bit more special.
Yep, up until the beg of Nov I was using my McL everyday. After all, they're cars and made to be driven. I'm out in the sticks though so easily done here. Enjoyed every moment and never concerned myself with the running costs so they couldn't have been that bad.

Bo_apex

1,531 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th November
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paddy1970 said:
But a 550 is not a supercar as .... (any excuse you want....the engine is not mid-mounted for example!!!)

rotaterotaterotate
550 has a mid-mounted engine. Front mid-mounted wink


George29

14,570 posts

136 months

Friday 26th November
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paddy1970 said:
...also, every day means 10k miles a year ... how much will it cost to run a F12...nobody knows as it has not been done!!!!

These cars are not designed to do this type of mileage...they will fall apart in no time....

Same for Lambo or Maclaren...they cannot be used every day or you will be grippled by consumable costs and the car will be most of the time at the garage getting fixed...
I’ve done 14k miles in a year in my FF. When I swap to an F12 I’ll be doing the same mileage in that. If it’s got Ferrari warranty what’s the issue?

DevonPaul

728 posts

109 months

Saturday 27th November
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If you pull into a petrol station and middle aged men stare at it, it's a Sports car.

If 8 year old boys stare at it, it's a Supercar.

JohnnyUK

204 posts

50 months

Saturday 27th November
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DevonPaul said:
If you pull into a petrol station and middle aged men stare at it, it's a Sports car.

If 8 year old boys stare at it, it's a Supercar.
8 year old boys stare at my Frogeye Sprite! wink